The Protestant Reformation and the Orthodox Christian East

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Started watching, hope to finish soon.

I had no idea about Charlemagne? I want to ask if this is all true, but I'm guessing it probably is.

It would explain a lot. But I wonder if Catholics have the same narrative of their history?
 
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The Protestant Reformation and the Orthodox Christian East by Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou, Ph.D. was the topic on Fr. Barnabus Powell's podcast (Faith Encouraged) June 11, 2017.
Fr. Panayiotis presented the paper in Germany on the Occasion of the 500-Year Anniversary of the Reformation.
It's a Historical Survey and Study of the Communications between the Reformers
and the Patriarchs Joasaph II and Jeremias II.

It's available on the Faith Encouraged link.
You can hear the discussion and caller questions here: Faith Encouraged Live.
 
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Read the paper a while ago. I wish it had covered more of the response to Calvinism. As it is, I found some of the objections to Lutheranism inadequate to generalize to Reformed doctrine. For instance, the assertion that "faith with no works is not true faith" is no statement that an informed Calvinist would disagree with. The issue is not really justification by faith but the definition of salvation as process rather than a legal category.
 
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Read the paper a while ago. I wish it had covered more of the response to Calvinism. As it is, I found some of the objections to Lutheranism inadequate to generalize to Reformed doctrine. For instance, the assertion that "faith with no works is not true faith" is no statement that an informed Calvinist would disagree with. The issue is not really justification by faith but the definition of salvation as process rather than a legal category.

I think it depends on the Protestants you run in to. in some of my Army chaplain training, I have met guys from the Calvinist line who would absolutely disagree and say true faith is completely apart from works (and of course others, who completely agree with your point).
 
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I think it depends on the Protestants you run in to. in some of my Army chaplain training, I have met guys from the Calvinist line who would absolutely disagree and say true faith is completely apart from works (and of course others, who completely agree with your point).
Well, that's the coherence problem that Protestantism has in general. Because a tension is seen between faith and works, there's inevitably pressure to gravitate towards one to the exclusion of the other. The thing that completely upended me about Orthodoxy from the start was how that tension didn't exist, so that you end up with both being emphasized.
 
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Well, that's the coherence problem that Protestantism has in general. Because a tension is seen between faith and works, there's inevitably pressure to gravitate towards one to the exclusion of the other. The thing that completely upended me about Orthodoxy from the start was how that tension didn't exist, so that you end up with both being emphasized.

right, which is a whole other can of worms. my point was only the theology expressed can be found in a lot of Protestant circles.
 
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