Soul sleep or heaven which is the truth?

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Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Psalm 115:17
The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.

These two verses support what Jesus taught that the dead both righteous and the lost are asleep in the grave till the resurrection to life or the second resurrection unto damnation.


John 11:24-26 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
24 Martha saith to him, `I have known that he will rise again, in the rising again in the last day;'

25 Jesus said to her, `I am the rising again, and the life; he who is believing in me, even if he may die, shall live;

26 and every one who is living and believing in me shall not die -- to the age;

Sounds to me like believers shall NOT die. V25 seems to speak of physical death.
 
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John 11:24-26 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
24 Martha saith to him, `I have known that he will rise again, in the rising again in the last day;'

25 Jesus said to her, `I am the rising again, and the life; he who is believing in me, even if he may die, shall live;

26 and every one who is living and believing in me shall not die -- to the age;

Sounds to me like believers shall NOT die. V25 seems to speak of physical death.


Please explain these to verses then

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Psalm 115:17
The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.
 
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our spirits keep existing after our body dies.

I see the verses as spiritual process and states of being that we all find ourselves in. the living know they will die because when they die with Christ their sins are put to death so their love, their hatred and ect. are dead and the new nature in Christ lives and praises God. so the Father is pleased with those who worship him in spirit and in truth, which is how Jesus told us to live.

Ps 115:12-18 (YLT)
Jehovah hath remembered us, He blesseth, He blesseth the house of Israel, He blesseth the house of Aaron, He blesseth those fearing Jehovah, The small with the great. Jehovah addeth to you, to you, and to your sons. Blessed are ye of Jehovah, maker of heaven and earth, The heavens--the heavens are Jehovah's, And the earth He hath given to sons of men, The dead praise not Jah, Nor any going down to silence. And we, we bless Jah, From henceforth, and unto the age. Praise ye Jah!

Eccl 9:4-6 (YLT)
But to him who is joined unto all the living there is confidence, for to a living dog it is better than to the dead lion. For the living know that they die, and the dead know not anything, and there is no more to them a reward, for their remembrance hath been forgotten. Their love also, their hatred also, their envy also, hath already perished, and they have no more a portion to the age in all that hath been done under the sun.
 
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My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected. I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? Its always been in my opinion that dead people ultimately end up in either heaven or hell. If you believe in Jesus and died in him and are born again you go to heaven if you deny Jesus you go to hell. Honestly I never knew that soul sleep was even a belief among Christians other than Seventh day adventists. But apparently belief in soul sleep is very common among Christians. So common in fact that I'm starting to open up to the idea of it. It does seem to be supported by the bible and the other view doesn't seem to have any biblical evidence at all. Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus. So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise" so that seems to confirm that life does in fact continue after death.

Neither. When a faithful believer dies before the Pre-Trib Rapture, they go to Abraham's bosom. After the Pre-Trib Rapture takes place, the saints who die in the faith will then go directly to Heaven. But Heaven will not be the saints final resting place. The New Earth will be the saints final resting place with God after they receive new flesh and blood resurrected bodies.

Anyways....

When the Dead in Christ Are Taken From Abraham's Bosom By the Rapture:
(Both the Old Testament Saints and Church Age Saints in Abraham's Bosom Are Called to Rise To Meet the Lord in the Air. For in the Rapture: The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First):

Zechariah 9:11 NIV and 1 Thessalonians 4:16

For... I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. And with the trump of God... the dead in Christ shall rise first:


Commentary - Zechariah 9:11 and Thessalonians 4:16

Zechariah 9:11 is a prophetic Old Testament passage about the taking up of the saints from Abraham's bosom.

What is Abraham's Bosom?

Abraham's bosom (which is also known as Paradise) is described in Luke 16:19-31. It is a real place of comfort within the spirit realm; A temporary paradise where the saint's soul and spiritual body resides consciously to be with the Lord when their physical body dies (Genesis 3:19) (Ecclesiastes 12:7) (Luke 16:22). This paradise is located within the realm of the dead below the Earth (Which is also known as Sheol or Hades) which is separated by a great gulf from the fiery place of punishment known as "Torments" or what is commonly known as "Hell" (Luke 16:26) (Luke 16:23). It will be a place where the saint will be comforted (Luke 16:25). But, why is Abraham's bosom also called Paradise? Well, on the day of Christ's sacrifice, he had told the thief on the cross that: "This day, you shall be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). But yet, Scripture tells us that when Christ died, he was in the heart of the Earth for three days and three nights, though (Matthew 12:40). So this leads us to conclude that during Christ's three days within the grave before His resurrection, He was with the thief in Abraham's bosom which is located in the heart (or the center) of the Earth.

Does Abraham's Bosom Still Exist Within the Church Age Today?

The real life story (or event) told by Jesus within Luke 16:19-31 took place during the time of Moses (Luke 16:29). However, the important question that must be asked is: Does Abraham's Bosom still exist today, though?

Well, yes, I believe according to the plain reading of Scripture that Abraham's bosom still exists today within our present church age. For all true saints who die in Christ right now will go to be with the Lord down in Abraham's bosom and then later they will be taken up into Heaven when the Rapture occurs. For how else will the dead in Christ rise first? See 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Do the dead in Christ rise to go to Heaven and then come back down somewhere temporarily to be risen again at the Rapture? Do they rise in Christ twice spiritually? If so, where is the verse that explains this?

In fact, many Christians today who are well versed in studying the Scriptures believe they go straight to Heaven; This is a common misconception because they interpret the ascension of Christ mentioned in Ephesians 4:8 as the time of when the saints in Abraham's bosom are being taken to Heaven.

Ephesians 4:8 - "When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive."

In other words, based on this passage, most Christians believe that Christ led those saints who were in captivity in Abraham's bosom captive up into Heaven when Christ ascended. However, is this what Ephesians 4:8 is talking about, though?

No, actually it is actually talking about how when Christ ascended, He bound the enemy or the powers of darkness. How so? Well, our first clue to this fact is to look at the parallel reference of this passage located in Judges chapter five.

Judges 5:12 - "Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead your captives captive, you son of Abinoam."

Now, without boring you with all the details, to make a long story short, if you were to read Judged chapter 5, you would find out that Barak was leading his enemies captive and not his friends. To put it to you another way, the moment a true Christian is born again and then dedicates their life to Christ, they are then no longer Christ's enemy. For those in Abraham's bosom are God's elect or chosen who had put their trust in God to redeem them of their sins (See Luke 16:19-31).

As a matter of fact, Gill's Exposition of the Bible says this...
"He led captivity captive; which is expressive of Christ's conquests and triumph over sin, Satan, the world, death, and the grave; and indeed, every spiritual enemy of his and his people, especially the devil, who leads men captive at his will, and is therefore called captivity, and his principalities and powers, whom Christ has spoiled and triumphed over;"And 2nd Timothy says this...

2 Timothy 2:26 - "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. For when Christ had raised from the dead he put all things including the principalities and powers of darkness under his feet."

Therefore, the word "captivity" is a reference to Satan leading people captive to his will and lets us know the true context or meaning behind Ephesians 4:8.

For when Christ had risen from the dead, He put all things including the principalities and powers of darkness under his feet.

Ephesians 1:20-23 "Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all."
 
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our spirits keep existing after our body dies.

Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Please explain these to verses then

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Psalm 115:17
The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.
 
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our spirits keep existing after our body dies.

Please explain this verse then

Psalm 146:4
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
 
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My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected. I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? Its always been in my opinion that dead people ultimately end up in either heaven or hell. If you believe in Jesus and died in him and are born again you go to heaven if you deny Jesus you go to hell. Honestly I never knew that soul sleep was even a belief among Christians other than Seventh day adventists. But apparently belief in soul sleep is very common among Christians. So common in fact that I'm starting to open up to the idea of it. It does seem to be supported by the bible and the other view doesn't seem to have any biblical evidence at all. Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus. So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise" so that seems to confirm that life does in fact continue after death.
The Bible is a bit more clear about that subject than many think. This is the first paragraph of an article about it with a link to the rest of it.

The aim of this article is to show what resurrection is through its contextual usage in scripture.
That fact that there is resurrection is not controversial amongst professing Christians. The what, when, where, and how's, are controversial. There will be five main points in this article to show that the word resurrection is used to describe different things; and that the meaning of those things are shown in the context of that particular scripture. This as opposed to the idea or "hermeneutic" that seeks to make resurrection a one time future event based on a small number of the scriptures on the subject. There is also no need to go into the Greek words for resurrection, arose, rise, raised ect ect. These are used interchangeably so often to describe the same events it renders it unnecessary. The five points in order will be:
1. That depending on the context of the verses the word resurrection is used to convey the idea that there is immediate life after death that includes a physical body. (Not physical as we know physical, but a physical body none the less.)
2. Again, depending on the context of those scriptures the word resurrection is used to convey the idea of a flesh and bone body dying and that same body miraculously restored to life as in the case of Lazarus.
3. Or, as the context dictates, that resurrection can mean a flesh and bone body dying and that same body being restored to life; but then also becoming a "glorified" body like Jesus. This would also include the case of one never dying first but being caught up or "raptured" like Elijah.
4. Then resurrection depending on the context is used illustratively to describe those who are "dead" in sin yet physically alive, becoming "alive" to God or resurrected. In other words a "spiritual" resurrection that occurs while still in our body.
5. Finally, as the context dictates, a word or a vision of resurrection is used to teach the realities of points #1, #2, #3 or #4. Unfortunately though, like all words or visions from God; there is a natural tendency to interpret them as an event; rather than the use of illustrative language or pictures to describe basic truth.
Resurrection

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My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected. I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? Its always been in my opinion that dead people ultimately end up in either heaven or hell. If you believe in Jesus and died in him and are born again you go to heaven if you deny Jesus you go to hell. Honestly I never knew that soul sleep was even a belief among Christians other than Seventh day adventists. But apparently belief in soul sleep is very common among Christians. So common in fact that I'm starting to open up to the idea of it. It does seem to be supported by the bible and the other view doesn't seem to have any biblical evidence at all. Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus. So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise" so that seems to confirm that life does in fact continue after death.

Both are true - Christians go to heaven as Paul said in Phil 3:20-21 and 1 Thess 4 - when they are resurrected and get new bodies - also 1 Cor 15 says the same thing.

And instantly at death -- the spirit "goes to heaven" as Solomon said - "goes back to God who gave it" Eccl 12:7 at death. in a dormant state.

And at death they are "dormant" as Paul said in 1 Thess 4
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

It's all right there -- plain as day.

So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise"

Quote the actual text - just as it was written - no punctuation

Luke 23
42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

The very "When" statement that you suggest is needed for the context is actually there -- remember me when You come in Your kingdom!

And the answer from Christ - with punctuation missing as Paul would have written it -- "Truly I say to you today you shall be with Me in Paradise"

Not at all opposed to the clear teaching we have in 1 Thess 4.

It is all right there.
 
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I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? .

1. The "general stance of the church" in the dark ages - was Catholicism.
2. The "most popular position today" is prayers to the dead such as prayers to Mary.

If that were "the rule" there would have been no Christian church since the most popular view at the time of Christ among the Jews was not that He was the Messiah.

3. There are other Christians other than Seventh-day Adventists that agree with Paul in 1 Thess 4 on the dormant state of the saints at death. Calling them those "who have fallen asleep in Christ". See Edward Fudge's book "The fire that consumes"

Christian conditionalism - Wikipedia

As for SDAs - Christianity Today published an article in Feb of 2015 pointing out that Seventh-day Adventists are the fifth largest Christian denomination in the world a of 2014
 
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Please explain this verse then

Psalm 146:4
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

when we are dying to our sinful nature we stop having fleshly thoughts and we start having our conversation in heaven. so as we grow up to God our earthly nature perishes more and more and we are alive in spirit and in truth more and more. that is why this psalm speaks of people being set free from wickedness and weakness.

Ps 146:1-10 (YLT)
Praise ye Jah! Praise, O my soul, Jehovah. I praise Jehovah during my life, I sing praise to my God while I exist. Trust not in princes--in a son of man, For he hath no deliverance. His spirit goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, In that day have his thoughts perished. O the happiness of him Who hath the God of Jacob for his help, His hope is on Jehovah his God, Making the heavens and earth, The sea and all that is in them, Who is keeping truth to the age, Doing judgment for the oppressed, Giving bread to the hungry. Jehovah is loosing the prisoners, Jehovah is opening (the eyes of) the blind, Jehovah is raising the bowed down, Jehovah is loving the righteous, Jehovah is preserving the strangers, The fatherless and widow He causeth to stand, And the way of the wicked He turneth upside down. Jehovah doth reign to the age, Thy God, O Zion, to generation and generation, Praise ye Jah!

we will still get evil thoughts but they will become like stubble, we will know them for what they are and we will not put our trust in them. we shall hear the voices of angels in zion and we shall rejoice knowing the goodness that comes from their singing in praises of God.
 
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Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Please explain these to verses then

yes they surely did die and yet they were still alive, because God was speaking about spiritual death. the dead know nothing so it makes sense that the serpent would give falsehood instead of the truth.


you could view the serpent as a kind of prince, i.e. wicked spirits that the NT talks about.
 
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Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus.
Both are "correct". The soul is judged upon death, and it goes to heaven, hell, or purgatory. The soul has left the body, so the body is left behind and decays. Our souls will be reunited with our bodies at the general judgement ("the second coming"), and our bodies will be glorified. After this judgement, the soul, now reunited with its body, returns to wherever it had been residing until this point.

The soul does not sleep- it is simply separated from the body for a time.
 
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The soul does not sleep- it is simply separated from the body for a time.
That's not stated anywhere in Scripture.
In fact, no dis-embodied souls are found anywhere in Scripture, nor in history, nor in heaven, nor under the earth.
 
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3. There are other Christians other than Seventh-day Adventists that agree with Paul in 1 Thess 4 on the dormant state of the saints at death.
This is interesting and in line with all Scripture, as proven by E.W.Bullinger (nothing he did was related to Seventh Day as far as I know - He was thus like an authority of Scripture Truth without any bias for a denomination.

Also, if the buried ones are only "asleep" for a split second, does that contradict any Scripture at all ?

Remember in heaven/ life to come/ YHVH'S dwelling / SPIRIT/ there is no time - as soon as they "sleep" the sleep of death, in an instant they are awake in the resurrection,
while on earth we still experience time until we also "sleep".....
 
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There must be a temporary paradise for the souls until we are gathered in the new Jerusalem. Unless there is a time warp and we travel directly to the future to the New Jerusalem as soon as we die. God and His angels live somewhere, they aren't just floating around in the air and the cosmos. So wherever their home is, is where we must go when we die (the saved). We must also remember that God is immortal, therefore what we know as time becomes something else when we die, and become immortal ourselves. If there was some kind of soul sleeping period, that period would only be existent by our own Earthly time, and that Earthly time would appear as fast as the blink of an eye as soon as we die.( In my opinion)
 
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mmbattlestar said:
My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected.
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Adding further to 1THESSALONIANS.4:16 which describes how the believer's soul sleeps after death and will be resurrected by God/Jesus at His 2nd Coming to earth, .......

the resurrected or awakened believers will then spend 1,000 years or a Millennium with Jesus Christ on a new earth(REVELATION.20:4 & 21:1, ISAIAH.2:4 & 11:6 & 65:25, MICAH.4:1) before being transformed into angel-like beings and actually going to the kingdom of heaven to be with God.(1CORINTHIANS.15:24, cf; EXODUS.33:20, JOHN.1:18 & 5:37)
 
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Most of my family from the past 7 or 8 generations are buried in Baptist Church cemeteries in Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee. I touch the grave stones and look at the old pictures, but the deceased are in Heaven, and with me or my family is the only place where their soul sleeps other than with Jesus.
My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected. I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? Its always been in my opinion that dead people ultimately end up in either heaven or hell. If you believe in Jesus and died in him and are born again you go to heaven if you deny Jesus you go to hell. Honestly I never knew that soul sleep was even a belief among Christians other than Seventh day adventists. But apparently belief in soul sleep is very common among Christians. So common in fact that I'm starting to open up to the idea of it. It does seem to be supported by the bible and the other view doesn't seem to have any biblical evidence at all. Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus. So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise" so that seems to confirm that life does in fact continue after death.
I'm not very knowledgeable on this subject, but I'm pretty sure that believers who have already passed are in Heaven. When Jesus comes back, I imagine it will be to live like a normal person and not to get crucified again. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that the average Christian would know when Jesus comes back, and if they did, they'd probably try to kill him again out of jealousy. That's my take on it.
 
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My wife and I were watching some videos on Youtube last night about where Christians go when they die. And we came across a video that teaches soul sleep I.e. when we die we don't go to be with Jesus but we sleep in our graves and in an instant it will be the second coming of Jesus and we will be resurrected. I've heard this teaching before from a seventh day Adventist but NEVER from other Christians. The internet seems to be a buzz with both theories so I was wondering what is the general stance of the church? Its always been in my opinion that dead people ultimately end up in either heaven or hell. If you believe in Jesus and died in him and are born again you go to heaven if you deny Jesus you go to hell. Honestly I never knew that soul sleep was even a belief among Christians other than Seventh day adventists. But apparently belief in soul sleep is very common among Christians. So common in fact that I'm starting to open up to the idea of it. It does seem to be supported by the bible and the other view doesn't seem to have any biblical evidence at all. Unless I'm missing something? I mean towards the end of Paul's life he apparently was looking forward to death because he longed to be with Jesus. Peter also seemed to believe that after his crucifixion that he would go to be with Jesus as well. But there is also several places in the bible that say when were dead we sleep in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus. So Idk... Plus there was the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him "Today you will be with me in paradise" not "during my second coming you will be with me in paradise" so that seems to confirm that life does in fact continue after death.

Soul sleep was not supported by Jesus. Jesus speaks the truth in his parables not fiction. In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man died in sin, he was instantly in hell fire in torment. It goes on to say that Lazarus also died and was whisked off to heaven. The rich man communicated in a human way when dead. Stating something along the lines of "get some one to give me just a drop of water for I am tormented in this flame".

Don't be missled by Christians who don't know their bible. Soul sleep is not biblical.
 
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I think soul sleep is true, but not soul unconsciousness. The Judeo-Christian belief is that both body and soul are essential for true humanity. The idea that the soul is the true self comes from Greek philosophy, not from the Bible. Why would God even need to resurrect the dead if we all live happily ever after upon death?
 
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