So that would be the rabbinical Jewish defination then. I don't believe that Jewish defination is any more binding than any other definition. Interpretation based on scripture takes more than history to dispute ones claims.
Please just address the scripture. I'm not interested in history. You don't have a claim (the Jews) (or the Traditions) on interpretation that outlaws others. Especially without even addressing the issues brought up. IOW you don't have a binding authority. Address the scripture or take your grievances elsewhere.
There are no Jews nor Gentiles in Christ Jesus!
What you are recommending is a group of men being authorative over scripture. Read the scripture provided and refute that, not my personal means of responding to you.You're jumping. Calm down, please.
Its not something that just belongs solely to the Jews. It simply began with Jews, and was to continue in practice as the church spread throughout the world. Churches have church administrative committees today. And, when done according to sound teachings, will be placed in positions that will set up church policies and even local traditions when needed.
When godly... Heaven will honor this authority on earth when is according to principles established in God's Word. What is bound, or loosened by them, will be bound and loosened (recognized and approved of) in Heaven.
It was all about having delegated authority in God's churches. It was not about binding and loosing demons - as some sects today wrongly use that passage to mean. (that's why I was clarifying).
The principle began with Moses (Exodus 18:17-23) when Moses was wearing himself out trying to hear out the people and to settle issues for them. It was too much work for one man. So, 70 elders were then delegated to serve in this capacity. It was the first "Halakah."That was the early beginning of the principle.
That is why Jesus used the term... "sit in the seat of Moses."
“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat."
Matthew 23:2
Jesus was telling his disciples that they would be (when apostles) having the same kind of authority over the Church, as the Pharisees had over Israel. (that's all..)
Its just not about binding and loosening demons! That was not what Jesus was speaking about, though later on the apostles did that as well.
Using Moses as an example of taking the advise of Jethro isn't a good starting point imo.You're jumping. Calm down, please.
It was not something that just belonged solely to the Jews. It simply began with Jews, and was to be a continuing function as the church spread throughout the world. Organized churches have church administrative committees today. And, when done according to sound teachings, will those men and women will be placed in positions that will set up church policies and even local traditions when needed.
When those delegated are godly... heaven will honor their authority on earth when it is according to principles established in God's Word. Therefore, what is bound, or loosened.. by them, will be bound and loosened (recognized and approved of) in Heaven.
It was all about having established delegated authority in God's churches. It was not about binding and loosing demons - (as some sects today wrongly use that passage to mean. That's why I was clarifying).
The principle began with Moses (Exodus 18:17-23) when Moses was wearing himself out by trying to hear out all the people to settle issues for them. It was too much work for one man. So, 70 elders were then delegated to serve in this capacity. It was the first "Halakah."That was the early beginning of the principle.
That is why Jesus used the term... "to sit in the seat of Moses."
“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat."
Matthew 23:2
Jesus was telling his disciples that they would be (when apostles) having the same kind of authority over the Church, as the Pharisees had over Israel. (that's all..)
Its simply not about binding and loosening demons! That was not what Jesus was speaking about, though later on the apostles did those works as well.
I think this will answer your question...
Sure, I know those songs.The picture on the cover of Keith Green's album.. "No Compromise" was done by my brother. Are you familiar with it?
Um I'm not interested in reading Jewish writings. Not sure why you would bring that up?
I distain yes. If you can't explain it from scripture ... which is not inclusive of rabbinical law nor interpretive Tradition, then I don't want to hear it. Perhaps if you'd like too explain it word for word in heirogliphic Hebrew I might listen. Nothing disrespectful to you intended but sorry. I don't believe that.
Then I'm sure that you can explain from scripture how that committee is correct
Individuality of salvation is the basis of the OP opening post. To differentiate that from corperative church is that as the corperation (administrative) organism it cannot be seen as anything but without spot or wrinkle. National direction was for Israel but individual leading is New Covenent recieved personally from Christ Jesus with whom is the only recipient of the covenant from God.
Jesus was a Rabbi! Rabbis had disciples that followed them. Jesus was not unique in having disciples in the Jewish culture. It was a very Jewish thing to see in the land seeing a rabbi and his disciples.
