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Circumcism Of The Heart
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Your post is an example of taking a verse out of it's context to support your theology. That said it's just as likely that His disciples drank grape juice and not alcohol wine at the "Last Supper".
What Yeshua meant is not that he had never tasted of the fruit of the vine previous to the "Last Supper", but rather because He was soon to be arrested and crucified He wouldn't get another opportunity to drink the fruit of the vine before His death. The drugged vinegar wine that He rejected isn't the pure "fruit of the vine" (mildly fermented grape juice) that He gave to His Disciples to drink at the "Last Supper".
Yeshua lived a completely sinless life (1 Peter 2:22); however, Luke 7 strongly suggests that Yeshua did indeed partake of fermented grape juice (wine). Yeshua goes on to say that the religious leaders accused Him falsely of being a drunkard. Yeshua was never a drunkard, any more than He was a glutton.
It's just as likely that it was the best tasting grape juice (not manischewitz) that was served well into the festive wedding when Yeshua changed water into the fruit of the vine. Why would Yeshua turn water in an alcoholic drink if the guests had already consumed wine? Why would Yeshua hasten any drunkenness or drunkard behavior?
If Yeshua is going to drink the fruit of the vine in His Father's Kingdom than it's very likely he tasted the fruit of the vine (e.g. grape juice) as early as his bar mitzvah
Blessed are You, Lord our God, Ruler of the universe,
who creates the fruit of the vine.
PS: "No matter what kind of Pesach Seder you may be hosting or attending, be it in New York or San Francisco, bring the most popular kosher brand. Manischewitz tastes like Welch’s Grape Juice meets Port meets the blood of our forefathers. There’s definitely something “afflicted” in its flavor. At 11 percent ABV, it’s the kind of sticky sweet wine that gets glugged like juice at the dinner table, resulting in a collective morning-after headache for everyone involved." ... Why do people still drink Manischewitz wine? ... some Jewish seders are just way toooooo casual
Matthew 26:27-29
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
What Yeshua meant is not that he had never tasted of the fruit of the vine previous to the "Last Supper", but rather because He was soon to be arrested and crucified He wouldn't get another opportunity to drink the fruit of the vine before His death. The drugged vinegar wine that He rejected isn't the pure "fruit of the vine" (mildly fermented grape juice) that He gave to His Disciples to drink at the "Last Supper".
Luke 7:33-34
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’
34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’
34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.
Yeshua lived a completely sinless life (1 Peter 2:22); however, Luke 7 strongly suggests that Yeshua did indeed partake of fermented grape juice (wine). Yeshua goes on to say that the religious leaders accused Him falsely of being a drunkard. Yeshua was never a drunkard, any more than He was a glutton.
It's just as likely that it was the best tasting grape juice (not manischewitz) that was served well into the festive wedding when Yeshua changed water into the fruit of the vine. Why would Yeshua turn water in an alcoholic drink if the guests had already consumed wine? Why would Yeshua hasten any drunkenness or drunkard behavior?
If Yeshua is going to drink the fruit of the vine in His Father's Kingdom than it's very likely he tasted the fruit of the vine (e.g. grape juice) as early as his bar mitzvah
Blessed are You, Lord our God, Ruler of the universe,
who creates the fruit of the vine.
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