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it seems the source doesn't understand what the word Catholic actually means either.
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@~Anastasia~ @ArmyMatt
I appreciate your kindness and patience.
Just a summary before I unsubscribe from the thread and disappear from this forum.
That’s pretty much it folks.
- Scripture does not give us a command to make any image or likeness of God and His Saints.
- Scripture prohibits the making of images of God and His Saints for use in worship.
- We can trace the use of images being used for personal devotion and veneration to the laity, which was at first rejected by the Orthodox Church, until the head of State placed into power a person who would allow their use. (see op)
Yours in the Lord,
jm
@~Anastasia~ @ArmyMatt
I appreciate your kindness and patience.
Just a summary before I unsubscribe from the thread and disappear from this forum.
That’s pretty much it folks.
- Scripture does not give us a command to make any image or likeness of God and His Saints.
- Scripture prohibits the making of images of God and His Saints for use in worship.
- We can trace the use of images being used for personal devotion and veneration to the laity, which was at first rejected by the Orthodox Church, until the head of State placed into power a person who would allow their use. (see op)
Yours in the Lord,
jm
It's not eisegesis. It's just not a tight case in the Greek. ἡ εἰκὼν (icon or image) and ἡ ἐπιγραφή (superscription) are clearly feminine, whereas Jesus uses the neuter plural τὰ Καίσαρος (the things of Caesar) and τὰ τοῦ θεοῦ (the things of God). If he had been making a specific point about the icon, he would have used the feminine τήν (to refer to the icon specifically) or at bare minimum τάς (to refer to both the icon and the writing).
I like icons and religious art very much. It's just the "Bowing To" and "Kissing" of the icons that bothers me.
so I must ask, how is that any different than holding your hand over your heart when the national anthem is played, or kissing the photo of a loved one?
I don't kiss pictures of loved ones.
I just want to let you guys know that I mean No Disrespect Whatsoever and I love You All.
I love The Hymns, The Divine Liturgy Etc. It's just for some reason it bothers me to see people kissing the icons and bowing to them.
It seems that Western culture differs markedly from Eastern in displays of respect and affection. In many Eastern cultures it is customary to kiss the hand of your host when attending a function, and people greet each other with a kiss on each cheek, male or female.I don't kiss pictures of loved ones.
Well, those people are not bowing to and kissing the icons. They are bowing to and kissing God, Who is being revealed through the images found in the icons, as through a window into the Divine Being and Heavenly Kingdom.I just want to let you guys know that I mean No Disrespect Whatsoever and I love You All.
I love The Hymns, The Divine Liturgy Etc. It's just for some reason it bothers me to see people kissing the icons and bowing to them.