Genesis 6:1-4 and Jude 6&7 what do these passages mean? Why should we care?

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I know you do not believe that Adam waited 130 years to again have sex with his wife.
Adam for sure wanted ...but Eve had the experience that having babies was a pain ! ...But finally after 130 years of hard efforts, Adam finally was able to convince Eve to bare again...


Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH. For, [said she], God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel; for Cain slew him.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah.

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters.
 
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Adam for sure wanted ...but Eve had the experience that having babies was a pain ...But finally after 130 years of Hard effort Adam convinced eve to bare again...
LOL!
 
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Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH. For, [said she], God hath appointed me ANOTHER seed instead of Abel; for Cain slew him.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah.

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters.
 
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Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH. For, [said she], God hath appointed me ANOTHER seed instead of Abel; for Cain slew him.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah.

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters.
OK maybe the daughters were born in the interval?
 
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OK maybe the daughters were born in the interval?
No ...the Bible say AFTER that SETH was born Adam and Eve had daughters and other sons.

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: AND he begat sons and daughters.

: AND he begat sons and daughters ---->mean AFTER SETH was born...
 
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No ...the Bible say AFTER that SETH was born Adam and Eve had daughters and other sons.

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: AND he begat sons and daughters.

: AND he begat sons and daughters mean AFTER SETH was born...
That is the way You read it.
 
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That is the way You read it.
That is what Genesis 4:25 prove -----the other SEED [offspring] who came after that Cain have killed Abel WAS SETH... nothing in between...
Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH. For, [said she], God hath appointed me ANOTHER SEED INSTEAD of Abel; for Cain slew him.

And Genesis 5:3 prove that 130 years have passed ...

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: AND he begat sons and daughters.
 
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That is what Genesis 4:25 prove -----the other SEED [offspring] who came after that Cain have killed Abel WAS SETH... nothing in between...
Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH. For, [said she], God hath appointed me ANOTHER SEED INSTEAD of Abel; for Cain slew him.

And Genesis 5:3 prove that 130 years have passed ...

Genesis 5:3
3 And Adam lived 130 YEARS, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name SETH: 4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: AND he begat sons and daughters.

The girls could have been born during the interval. After all, Cain and Abel were both grown when Cain killed Abel, so we do not really know when the girls were born. But we know that Cain had a wife. So a girl baby had to be born during the interval.
 
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The girls could have been born during the interval. After all, Cain and Abel were both grown when Cain killed Abel, so we do not really know when the girls were born. But we know that Cain had a wife. So a girl baby had to be born during the interval.
Cain have find his wife in the Land of Nod ...east of Eden...it is not said that Cain have already a wife when God cursed him to wander on the earth...

Genesis 4
16 And Cain went out from the presence of Jehovah, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
 
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Cain have find his wife in the Land of Nod ...east of Eden...Genesis 4.
Brother...:rolleyes: Where did she come from? There were no more humans other than the ones born of Adam and Eve.
 
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Brother...:rolleyes: Where did she come from? There were no more humans other than the ones born of Adam and Eve.
Cain wife came from the people that God created on the 6TH day...do you remember that Cain was very afraid to be killed when God cursed cain to be a wanderer on the earth ...
 
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Adam and Eve.
no, no, no the people that God created male and female on the 6 TH Day were nomad people Genesis 1:27-30... Do you remember that Cain was afraid to be killed by people ...that God put on Cain a mark, so that other people that he may encounter will not harm him...Genesis 4:13-16

Genesis 4
13 And Cain said unto Jehovah, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the ground; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer in the earth; and it will come to pass, that whosoever findeth me will slay me.

15 And Jehovah said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And Jehovah appointed a sign for Cain, lest any finding him should smite him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of Jehovah, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
 
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no, no, no the people that God created male and female on the 6 TH Day were nomad people Genesis 1:27-30... Do you remember that Cain was afraid to be killed by people ...that God put on Cain a mark, so that other people that he may encounter will not harm him...Genesis 4:13-16

You are in serious error brother. Our Father created one man from the dust of the Earth. Every other person came from him. He did not go back to the dirt to create Eve. He took Eve from Adam's rib. Adam named the woman Eve because she would be the mother of ALL living.
 
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Coffman's Commentaries on the Bible................
Men shall not marry. They will have no such need or desire. All earthly ties and relationships shall have been outgrown, their purpose ended, and no longer needed or desirable. Like the holy angels, men shall have an existence in God, apart from all limitations and necessities of the flesh.


Coffman's Commentaries on the Bible................


Men shall not marry. They will have no such need or desire.


Agree, this is true in the resurrection.

All earthly ties and relationships shall have been outgrown, their purpose ended, and no longer needed or desirable.

Not sure I entirely agree with this. In the transfiguration Moses was known as Moses, Elias was known as Elias. In the new heaven and earth the twelve apostles will still be identified by name. I see no reason from scripture both you and I will not be the individuals we are now only in new glorified eternal bodies.

Like the holy angels, men shall have an existence in God, apart from all limitations and necessities of the flesh.

Agree, but I do not see how this applies to fallen angels who KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE, AND LEFT THEIR OWN HABITATION.
 
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What are the Scriptures which say that Angels eat food??????????


Genesis 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.



Genesis 18:1 And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:

5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.

6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.

7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.

8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.



Psalm 78:24 And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven.

25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.
 
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From the link : Are demons and fallen angels the same thing? My comments in red.

Are demons and fallen angels the same thing?

The Bible clearly speaks of demons or evil spirits, but what are they? Are demons fallen angels?



Perhaps the clearest answer can be found in Revelation 12:9: "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him." This verse states Satan is the devil and the serpent from Genesis 3. He was thrown down to earth with his "angels." The evil spirits or demons described in the Bible appear to be angels who joined Satan in his rebellion against God.

Nothing states this to be true. “Appear to be” is a false assumption and opinion.

Another helpful passage is found in Matthew 25:41. Jesus teaches, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Those with the devil are called angels, the same beings called demons or evil spirits in other passages. Therefore, we can conclude demons are fallen angels.

Jesus was not talking to demons or angels in this passage. This is making a huge leap and is totally opinion. The statement “those with the devil are called angels “ is a fact stated in the passage and the statement “the same beings called demons or evil spirits in other passages. Therefore, we can conclude demons are fallen angels” is color commentary and opinion. The “other passages” are not cited.

When did these angels "fall"? The timing of their fall is not made exactly clear in the Bible. However, some indications are given. For example, Satan appears in the form of a serpent to Eve in Genesis 3. Since demons are fallen angels who joined Satan when he rebelled, they must have fallen prior to the events in Genesis 3. Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 also mention Satan's fall as a past event.

The statement “Since demons are fallen angels who joined Satan when he rebelled” is opinion not backed up by scripture.



In fact, it is most likely that this fall occurred shortly before the temptation in the Garden of Eden.

Speculation!

Satan would have wasted little time after leaving God's presence to tempt those made in God's image. The best answer is that some angels became demons or fallen angels sometime between God's creation of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1 and the temptation in Genesis 3.

Again the writer assumes his previous assumptions are correct. Total unsubstantiated opinion.

During the time of Jesus on earth, much activity took place by demons. Still today, many reports are made of activities by evil spirits. Ephesians 6:12 clearly teaches our battle is against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Demonic spirits will continue to operate during the judgment of the tribulation period as well.

Agree!

However, demonic activity will be defeated at the return of Christ at the Battle of Armageddon (Revelation 19:17-21). After the 1,000-year millennial kingdom, there will be one final battle at which Christ and those with Him will defeat Satan and those with him for good (Revelation 20). The curse will end and a new heaven and earth will be created where all of God's people will dwell with Him forever.

Agree!


This is an opinion piece and has no proof offered that angels and demons are the same entities.
 
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There is nowhere in the Bible where demons are called 'sons', and especially not 'sons of God.'


Correct me if I am wrong and as you know I have been wrong before, but have you not acknowledged in the past that in at least some of the Job mentions of “sons of God” they are references to angels?

Since Adam fell in rebellion against God’s specific instruction and he was called a “son of God” in Luke, why is it a stretch to say fallen angels created by the hand of God are referred to as “sons of God”?

Also, since “the sons of God” in your theory allegedly took wives from the wicked line of Cain would that not place them in a rebellious state of some sort diminishing their perceived Holiness?

My point here is “sons of God” in this context is not a holy person or a follower of God but a direct creation by the hand of God, such as Adam and all angels both fallen or not. The NT definition does NOT apply here!
 
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There is nowhere in the Bible where demons are called 'sons', and especially not 'sons of God.'
Agree but you simply misunderstand what the scripture tells us
demons are not angels - demons are the disembodied spirits of the dead Nephilim giants and the dead Nephilim spirits can not have a resurrection -

the spirits of dead Nephilim are disembodied spirits that seek to inhabit a physical body such as human - or pigs - which can be cast out of the physical body as example given in Jesus casting out a legion out of the man into the pigs

"There were till then left the RACE OF GIANTS, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men" (Ant., V,ii,3).

terrible to the hearing would mean either a extremely loud voice from such an extremely large creature or a sound that is so much different than ordinary humans that it terrifies people

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

The Hebrew for "deceased" is actually the word for the Rephaim (a name for the giants). This is one of two places in the KJV where they didn't bring the name Rephaim into Engllish.

2 Pter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. – Jude 1:6-8

these being angels that were of the group that had sex with humans and are not permitted to roam the earth with satan - they will not be released from their prison until they are cast into the lake of fire

Major - how often do you say to people you meet when you introduce your family do you say ' this is my wife and children whom are human '
how often do you here an employer say ' this is the team of employees that you will be working with ; they are human '

the mere mention of 'they are human' implies and indicates that they are not the same breed as everyone else
Notice the scripture makes a clear delineation between humans and the giants Nephilim

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,

2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them.

Scripture is very clear - the sons of God are not human and the daughters of humans are indeed human or the phrase daughters of men are human
Scripture makes a clear distinction describing the sons of God as a different breed of beings that are not human

Your insistence to say that the sons of God are human would require the scripture to say the daughters are daughters of God as Adam and Eve are created EQUAL and thus there is NO reason to make such statements to say that
the sons of God are human if they were human-
There is a clear and distinct different description between who the sons are that is separate and different than daughters of men

You have clearly shown that you prefer your fallacy - your personal interpretation that you force into the scripture because it comforts you and you simply don't want to accept the truth that scripture states clearly that the sons of God in Gensis is the same as the sons of God in Job which are indeed angels
 
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