MBTI personality theory anyone?

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A compensated introvert may not realise they are "faking" extroversion, although they will realise that parties fatigue them.

Compensated introverts will also often score E on personality tests, depending on how the questions are asked.

But I was making a purely general comment, not one about you.

well understanding himself and Keirsey's definition should be enough for an honest person to realize.
 
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Of course. perhaps I should be more clear. There are two kinds of people who post questions about typing and relationships.
Those who say I think my boyfriend is an INTP, if so, how do I... whatever
and those who treat it like astrology. or like a religion.

I would not have known that ,for some reason I can not see taking it to the extremes of religon.
 
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I would not have known that ,for some reason I can not see taking it to the extremes of religon.
oh yeah. people argue over someone's type (that they don't know) like they would argue over whether someone's a Christian or not.
 
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oh yeah. people argue over someone's type (that they don't know) like they would argue over whether someone's a Christian or not.

Oh ok ,somewhat like the Preacher who doubts the salvation of his 20 member Church
 
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oh yeah. people argue over someone's type (that they don't know) like they would argue over whether someone's a Christian or not.

My husband is an ENTJ and I am an INTP, so I have had people question my typing for that reason alone (being Christians). It’s absolutely ridiculous. I’ve also read some stuff talkig about how ENTPs and ISFJs, for example, will get tired of each other and the relationship won’t work out. I am good friends with an ISFP. Yeah, there are communication differences, but it doesn’t determine whether two people will get along or not. I assume that’s the sort of thing you mean by treating it like astrology. And politics! There isn’t much if a correlation there either because experiences and mental health factor into political opinions too.

I use MBTI purely for communication. It is easier for me to know that an NJ or SP is thinking and not ignoring me, or that an FJ appreciates emotional harmony the most and an FP appreciates genuine emotional expression the most.
 
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My husband is an ENTJ and I am an INTP, so I have had people question my typing for that reason alone (being Christians). It’s absolutely ridiculous. I’ve also read some stuff talkig about how ENTPs and ISFJs, for example, will get tired of each other and the relationship won’t work out. I am good friends with an ISFP. Yeah, there are communication differences, but it doesn’t determine whether two people will get along or not. I assume that’s the sort of thing you mean by treating it like astrology. And politics! There isn’t much if a correlation there either because experiences and mental health factor into political opinions too.

I use MBTI purely for communication. It is easier for me to know that an NJ or SP is thinking and not ignoring me, or that an FJ appreciates emotional harmony the most and an FP appreciates genuine emotional expression the most.
I do find it a bit hard to keep up with all the new abbreviations... :)
 
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I do find it a bit hard to keep up with all the new abbreviations... :)

New abbreviations? Do you mean the eight letters? Sorry lol

The 16 types are 16 variatiions on 8 different thinking processes and how they are ordered in a person’s mind. Some people don’t like that aspect of the theory, but personally I have found it more helpful than just letters. When I say something like “SJ” I mean somewone who is sensing instead of intuitive and a judging type instead of a perceiving type. There are only the eight options:
Introvert vs. Extrovert
Sensing vs. iNtuition
Feeling vs. Thinking
Perceiving vs Judging

Without getting into all the details of how it works, “xSxJ” (ESFJ, ISTJ etc) indicates that the person in question prefers a specific sensing process that is associated with their peperception of past personal experiences. People often make the mistake of believing they are sheep. Similarly people assume iNtuition must make you smarter, and thinkers must be smarter than feelers, but assume only feelers can have true empathy. Perceivers are all assumed to be messy and disorganized while judging types are assumed to be tidy and uptight.

It’s less about your personality however, and more about the way you process information. For example, a thinking type needs to spend more time sorting out their logic or their environment while a feeler needs to soend more time sorting out their values and relationships. But they are only preferences, so a thinker still needs to spend time on their emotions and relationships and vice versa.

Admittedly, it’s a fair bit more complicated than most people realize and potentially not worth your time, but since I learned it anyway, I have found use for it.
 
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New abbreviations? Do you mean the eight letters? Sorry lol

The 16 types are 16 variatiions on 8 different thinking processes and how they are ordered in a person’s mind. Some people don’t like that aspect of the theory, but personally I have found it more helpful than just letters. When I say something like “SJ” I mean somewone who is sensing instead of intuitive and a judging type instead of a perceiving type. There are only the eight options:
Introvert vs. Extrovert
Sensing vs. iNtuition
Feeling vs. Thinking
Perceiving vs Judging

Without getting into all the details of how it works, “xSxJ” (ESFJ, ISTJ etc) indicates that the person in question prefers a specific sensing process that is associated with their peperception of past personal experiences. People often make the mistake of believing they are sheep. Similarly people assume iNtuition must make you smarter, and thinkers must be smarter than feelers, but assume only feelers can have true empathy. Perceivers are all assumed to be messy and disorganized while judging types are assumed to be tidy and uptight.

It’s less about your personality however, and more about the way you process information. For example, a thinking type needs to spend more time sorting out their logic or their environment while a feeler needs to soend more time sorting out their values and relationships. But they are only preferences, so a thinker still needs to spend time on their emotions and relationships and vice versa.

Admittedly, it’s a fair bit more complicated than most people realize and potentially not worth your time, but since I learned it anyway, I have found use for it.
Might take me a while to learn... :)
 
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I think intuition and sensing are not a category of their own, but rather a shorthand for if your combined T and F outweighs your P and J characteristics. Thinking and feeling are abstract or intuitive activities, while perceiving and judging are concrete or sensing ones. These are four abilities that everyone has varying degrees of.
I'm an INTP, and think types like mine are common on forums because they are not as common in general. We are the ones who have to go to forums to discuss what interests us instead of just talking with coworkers and neighbors.
It's important to remember that no personality theory covers all aspects of personality, for instance mbti does not cover willpower level or optimism. The enneagram covers some things mbti doesn't but there is something clunky about it, like it's an unfinished theory or there's disagreement about just what the numbers mean. Also personality does not dictate beliefs or values, which influence behavior a lot too.
 
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I think intuition and sensing are not a category of their own, but rather a shorthand for if your combined T and F outweighs your P and J characteristics. Thinking and feeling are abstract or intuitive activities, while perceiving and judging are concrete or sensing ones. These are four abilities that everyone has varying degrees of.
I'm an INTP, and think types like mine are common on forums because they are not as common in general. We are the ones who have to go to forums to discuss what interests us instead of just talking with coworkers and neighbors.
It's important to remember that no personality theory covers all aspects of personality, for instance mbti does not cover willpower level or optimism. The enneagram covers some things mbti doesn't but there is something clunky about it, like it's an unfinished theory or there's disagreement about just what the numbers mean. Also personality does not dictate beliefs or values, which influence behavior a lot too.
Sometimes hard to remember the abbreviations for the perceived types, but anyway...
 
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ISFP.. but I think it's probably inbetween ISFP and ISTP.

Definitely an introvert though. And cerebral enough to listen to indepth discussions.. but I tired of it quickly. Could be in the realm of science or even theological discussions like the ones we see here. So that's probably my "Sensing" preference kicking in. Not sure.
 
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I have always been interested in personality and took Myers Briggs yrs ago
what is weird, everytime I took it , was an INFP
but have take it twice in last year and it came out as INFJ

the only major thing that has changed is that we became parents and now I am doing things that I never ever would have done in the past
 
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it's only value is in helping you to identify your strengths and weaknesses.

I would have thought that it's impossible for personality to change but when I read the strengths and weaknesses from a site describing the type, husband and child both said "that's you"
 
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I have always been interested in personality and took Myers Briggs yrs ago
what is weird, everytime I took it , was an INFP
but have take it twice in last year and it came out as INFJ

the only major thing that has changed is that we became parents and now I am doing things that I never ever would have done in the past
I guess I would look at the transforming power of the Spirit of God in the believer's life; rather than the idea of changed personalities.
 
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When I was younger I pretty consistently scored as an INFJ. As I have gotten older the F and J have become lower, and it is difficult to tell where I fall in those two categories. My wife and one of her friends think that I better fit the INTJ type. I consider myself to be INXX.

On the enneagram I score as a 9w1.
 
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When I was younger I pretty consistently scored as an INFJ. As I have gotten older the F and J have become lower, and it is difficult to tell where I fall in those two categories. My wife and one of her friends think that I better fit the INTJ type. I consider myself to be INXX.

On the enneagram I score as a 9w1.
Interesting, though I'm not sure what to think of those categories.
 
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INFP here. With many unhealthy patterns. Sometimes I doubt about being ISXJ type (because of strong Si), but probably not. Also originaly I'd always score INFJ.
On Enneagram test I scored the same for 9w1 and 6w5. I can identify with all of them, so... And tritype 146/946 (I'm confused).

I would have thought that it's impossible for personality to change but when I read the strengths and weaknesses from a site describing the type, husband and child both said "that's you"
I read that type cannot change too (it can change only after a deep trauma which is probably not your case). I've heared that any type when under pressure or special circumstances can behave like other type, but deep inside they remain the same. Maybe you could try to look up information about cognitive functions. When I was confused between INFJ & INFP it helped me a lot.
 
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