KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLE

This debate presents both sides of the issue

KingJamesVersionBibleOnly said:

Pre 1611 (New Testament):

Before year 1611, The New Testament was present on earth in the Greek language; in texts known as the Textus Receptus, Yet, not yet translated into the English Language.​

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William Tyndale and Myles Coverdale would like to have a word with you.

-CryptoLutheran

Ancient of Days said:

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What's the Big Deal with King James Onlyism? Part 5

-CryptoLutheran

^ By the time that guy realizes he was wrong it will be to late. Instead of making it his personal mission in life to attack Sam Gipp and set him self up as a self imposed martyr he should have followed the example set forth in Acts.

38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

Just by listening to his videos one can tell its just a personal vendetta and not about "helping anyone"

Ancient of Days said:

^ By the time that guy realizes he was wrong it will be to late. Instead of making it his personal mission in life to attack Sam Gipp and set him self up as a self imposed martyr he should have followed the example set forth in Acts.

38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

Just by listening to his videos one can tell its just a personal vendetta and not about "helping anyone"

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WOW! Inferring that Dr James White is lost and that he doesn't care about anyone.... sounds like YOU have a personal vendetta . Ad Hominem attacks are just in poor taste and are a fallacy. Let people speak for themselves.

CallofChrist said:

WOW! Inferring that Dr James White is lost and that he doesn't care about anyone.... sounds like YOU have a personal vendetta . Ad Hominem attacks are just in poor taste and are a fallacy. Let people speak for themselves.

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As you say, let people speak for themselves.

Apparently not everyone agrees with James White.

brinny said:

As you say, let people speak for themselves.

Apparently not everyone agrees with James White.

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Nor do they have to.

CallofChrist said:

Nor do they have to.

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I agree.

Nice meeting you CallofChrist.

brinny said:

As you say, let people speak for themselves.

Apparently not everyone agrees with James White.

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I know for a fact that there's a lot of things I disagree with James White about. But his series of videos here are a very good refutation of KJV-onlyism.

Don't like James White? Okay, it's not hard to refute KJV-onlyism, it requires very little effort.

For example the simple fact that the KJV of 1611 and today's KJV, the Oxford 1769 revision, have material differences. KJV-onlyists tend to like to say the only differences are type face and punctuation, but they aren't. There are real, substantial differences between the 1611 and the 1769.

Let's compare shall we?

The 1611 reading of 1 Corinthians 4:9 reads,

"For I thinke that God hath set forth vs the Apostles last, as it were approued to death. For wee are made a spectacle vnto the world, and to Angels, and to men."

The 1769 reading,

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."

1611 of Psalm 69:32,

"The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall liue that seeke good."

1769 says,

"The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God."

Those are material, substantial differences. And those aren't the only ones.

Don't believe me? Feel free to look it up yourself. You can find an online, searchable version of the 1611 right here: King James Bible

-CryptoLutheran

CallofChrist said:

WOW! Inferring that Dr James White is lost and that he doesn't care about anyone.... sounds like YOU have a personal vendetta . Ad Hominem attacks are just in poor taste and are a fallacy. Let people speak for themselves.

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I didn't infer he was lost, I SAID he is WRONG. Big difference. Stating a belief and a Ad Hominem attack are two different things. You are getting quite emotional and are clearly twisting my words to draw an irrational and untrue conclusion.

Ancient of Days said:

I didn't infer he was lost, I SAID he is WRONG. Big difference. Stating a belief and a Ad Hominem attack are two different things. You are getting quite emotional and are clearly twisting my words to draw an irrational and untrue conclusion.

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I'm not getting emotional at all.

The King James Version belongs in the trash. It has severely outdated language and is not based on the original manuscripts.