Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, PROSTERITY and honor.

gustavchristianartist said:

I want prosperity, no more suffering
no more lacking of things
because you are a generous being
i know i can ask you anything

you have a tremendous love
send your gifts from above
give me turbo energy, give me a shove
if there is cold give me gloves

I ASK FOR PROSPERITY AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY PRAYER. If you don't want prosperity and blessings you can remain the same.

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If you want to prosper then work, this is what the bible says. The Lord does not promise anyone he will just give them money without working for things. Surely the Lord can provide for us and does. He provides work for us. I consider having a job the blessing and the Lord opens the door for me to work, that is a blessing. At the same time the Lord will not give us so much that we are drawn away from him. He knows our hearts. He gives us what we can handle, and he gives us what we need. We work hard and the Lord blesses hard work and integrity. On the flip side, the devil says bow down to me and I will give you the kingdoms of this world.....think about it.

20 Top Bible Verses about Work - Encouraging Scripture

The prosperity false gospel appeals to the greedy and lazy who want everything for nothing and it simply is not good bible nor the real gospel.

gustavchristianartist said:

Job had prosperity then and after

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You really want to walk the path of Job? The Lord did not bless Job because that was the moral of the story. Job was blessed because he remained faithful despite everything. Despite his friends cursing him , despite his wife telling him to curse the Lord, despite his afflictions which by the way he did not deserve because of his own sin. Be careful to try and compare yourself to Job.

RaymondG said:

You are missing the purpose of the thread...and when anyone gets back to the purpose, you dismiss it again because of one translation of one word out of one bible version.

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I think they are making a very valid point and it is really the heart of the thread. If one is reading a corrupted mistranslated version of the bible then God is not really saying that is he..if one is hanging their hat on a mistranslation they are hanging it on a lie essentially. It is completely relevant to the thread.

To say there is not inherent issues with the NIV is that possibly it is not something that has been looked at seriously?

http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com/NIVOmissions.pdf

gustavchristianartist said:

PROSPERITY, why we haven't this?
i purse for love and i've found life but no prosperity

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Have you always lived in the USA?

Seems you be given blessings, you able to have computer and or some type
of tech device that allows you to connect to the internet...from the looks of
your other videos you are making them at home?
Be thankful.
Good news: good news!

RaymondG said:

What is it that you are trying to say?

You quoted a scripture that states Jesus came so that we might become rich.........then though quote a scripture that states woe to them that are rich.....

So did Jesus come to give us woe? Or are you using scripture to bring out what you already believe and not to reveal truth? E.g. Will you translate rich as heavenly riches when it suits your belief, And earthly riches where it makes sense to you as well?

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If it suits my belief?
Or don’t you see the difference here?
What richeness is about on verse in corinthians and in Luke?
Are they same to you?
Or when Paul was saying that money is the root of evil, he was pointing the richnest found in Jesus?
I pointed the two verses about richnest that contradicts.
What are you arguing?
Yes, one is spiritual and one is earthly.
Am I the one interpretating? What are you fighting against?

gustavchristianartist said:

what's wrong with niv? what's gorgeous with kjv?

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From Bible Hub.

New International Version
Whoever pursues righteousness and love finds life, prosperity and honor.

New Living Translation
Whoever pursues righteousness and unfailing love will find life, righteousness, and honor.

English Standard Version
Whoever pursues righteousness and kindness will find life, righteousness, and honor.

New American Standard Bible
He who pursues righteousness and loyalty Finds life, righteousness and honor.

King James Bible
He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour.

Christian Standard Bible
The one who pursues righteousness and faithful love will find life, righteousness, and honor.

Contemporary English Version
If you try to be kind and good, you will be blessed with life and goodness and honor.

Good News Translation
Be kind and honest and you will live a long life; others will respect you and treat you fairly.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The one who pursues righteousness and faithful love will find life, righteousness, and honor.

International Standard Version
Whoever pursues righteousness and gracious love finds life, righteousness, and honor.

NET Bible
The one who pursues righteousness and love finds life, bounty, and honor.

New Heart English Bible
He who follows after righteousness and kindness finds life, righteousness, and honor.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
He that seeks righteousness and grace finds life, righteousness and glory.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Whoever pursues righteousness and mercy will find life, righteousness, and honor.

JPS Tanakh 1917
He that followeth after righteousness and mercy Findeth life, prosperity, and honour.

New American Standard 1977
He who pursues righteousness and loyalty Finds life, righteousness and honor.

Jubilee Bible 2000
He that follows after righteousness and mercy shall find life, righteousness, and honour.

King James 2000 Bible
He that follows after righteousness and mercy finds life, righteousness, and honor.

American King James Version
He that follows after righteousness and mercy finds life, righteousness, and honor.

American Standard Version
He that followeth after righteousness and kindness Findeth life, righteousness, and honor.

Douay-Rheims Bible
He that followeth justice and mercy, shall find life, justice, and glory.

Darby Bible Translation
He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour.

English Revised Version
He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour.

Webster's Bible Translation
He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honor.

World English Bible
He who follows after righteousness and kindness finds life, righteousness, and honor.

Young's Literal Translation
Whoso is pursuing righteousness and kindness, Findeth life, righteousness, and honour.

In my understanding Job is not a literal story but rather is an extended parable intended to teach a moral lesson (there are several such books in our scriptures). At that time Judaism believed that the righteous believer would find his reward in prosperity in this life. They did not have a concept of a reward in the hereafter. Job lost his prosperity in spite of the fact that he knew in his heart that he was a righteous man. It took him most of the parable to understand that "the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away" and that it has nothing to do with righteousness or not. This is a lesson that the proponents of the "prosperity gospel" have yet to learn.

2Timothy2:15 said:

I think they are making a very valid point and it is really the heart of the thread. If one is reading a corrupted mistranslated version of the bible then God is not really saying that is he..if one is hanging their hat on a mistranslation they are hanging it on a lie essentially. It is completely relevant to the thread.

To say there is not inherent issues with the NIV is that possibly it is not something that has been looked at seriously?

http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com/NIVOmissions.pdf

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I already mentioned that the point was valid and noted..... But Now look at the whole picture.....If someone talks about prosperity in general....I dont see the validity in using one word change in one verse of one bible to argue ffor or against the subject of Prosperity.....there has to be more. That is all i was saying. "One word of changed in one verse of one bible, therefore God wont give us natural prosperity" There are better arguments than this.

Jess Lee said:

If it suits my belief?
Or don’t you see the difference here?
What richeness is about on verse in corinthians and in Luke?
Are they same to you?
Or when Paul was saying that money is the root of evil, he was pointing the richnest found in Jesus?
I pointed the two verses about richnest that contradicts.
What are you arguing?
Yes, one is spiritual and one is earthly.
Am I the one interpretating? What are you fighting against?

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And you have, in your mind, linked the spiritual to the riches Jesus gives, and the earthly to the one that causes woe. What do you think about pride? Is that an earthly possession? is it material or is it spiritual? Is pride something, for which, you can look at someone and tell exactly how much of it they have? Can one be rich with Pride Or does your mind only associate rich with the amount of money or possessions one have? If, when you see rich, you go to money and possessions, is it indication of the value you put on money and material possessions.

I happen to view all the bible as spiritual and dont believe that I can please God in the flesh. When I put my own mind and thinking into the Word, I mess it up......therefore I try to take no thoughts and have true revealed by the only one who knows it.

gustavchristianartist said:

you are out of context

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It is totally in context. You are asking if the Lord prospers people. That is the context.

RaymondG said:

I already mentioned that the point was valid and noted..... But Now look at the whole picture.....If someone talks about prosperity in general....I dont see the validity in using one word change in one verse of one bible to argue ffor or against the subject of Prosperity.....there has to be more. That is all i was saying. "One word of changed in one verse of one bible, therefore God wont give us natural prosperity" There are better arguments than this.

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I know you agreed about the validity. I am not sure why everyone thinks just because you respond it is an attack.

Anyhow, the whole "prosperity gospel" thing is much bigger than translations. It is really a doctrinal issue.

gustavchristianartist said:

is Job superior to me? did Job sufferedvmore than me?

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Umm, have you had boils cover your entire body? Did you house blow down and all your children and wife die? Seriously....but that is not the point about him being superior.

2Timothy2:15 said:

I know you agreed about the validity. I am not sure why everyone thinks just because you respond it is an attack.

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My sentiments as well. Did you feel attacked by my post? I dont feel attacked by words in general...your posts included. I thought we were talking about an idea...not persons.

2Timothy2:15 said:

Anyhow, the whole "prosperity gospel" thing is much bigger than translations. It is really a doctrinal issue.

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I agree.... I believe the depravity gospel is just as big an issue as the Prosperity gospel (a gospel I've learned on this site...along with many other "sins" and" false doctrines")

I say lets preach the good news and forget about the money everyone has or dont have.....lets preach the good news to the "rich" and "poor" alike. You with me?

gustavchristianartist said:

you were saying , "how you dare to compare to Job?"

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Look if you are going to quote me at least quote what I said.

I said " do you really want to walk the path of job?"

And I said " be careful to compare yourself to Job".

Neither of those statements say how dare you compare yourself to Job. Rather I was saying if you really know the story of Job and all that he went through to get what you are calling "prosperity" it was not something I think anyone would want. Again, read carefully before you quote. I am not sure if it is a language barrier or not but this seems to be a consistent thing.

Here is what I said again just to be super clear.

2Timothy2:15 said:

You really want to walk the path of Job? The Lord did not bless Job because that was the moral of the story. Job was blessed because he remained faithful despite everything. Despite his friends cursing him , despite his wife telling him to curse the Lord, despite his afflictions which by the way he did not deserve because of his own sin. Be careful to try and compare yourself to Job.

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I went too far and said things just to defend myself.
So i am deleting this.

Let me say this though.
I think I understand what you tried to say.
The world offers more than physical goods, fame, pride, lust, etc.
I tried to seperate it in some logical way and i failed somewhat.
However, The Lord and the apostles did refer ‘rich’ to financial gain, how that can cause people to fall. How many people will turn to money over God.
I think I get what you mean by saying rich in this world as to posses every feature a man of the world would want.
But Instead of judging first hand, without knowing the purpose of my message,
You could simply speak what you believe..
Attacking, is not the way to resonate.