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There are apparently only two viable dates for the crucifixion; AD30 and AD33.

I'm bored now talking to you.

I have given you Gods calendar. It reveals past, present, and future. Signs from the Heavens verify it. Its patterns are astounding, yet somehow so simple it should have been seen many generations ago.

You have shown nothing to disprove it, yet you reject it with scorn.

This is how Christ is always treated.

Mark 6:4-6 King James Version (KJV)
4 But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
 
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Gee, nice time period source (and as if I have not seen that information before). I will say this again... I don't particularly have an issue with the date. I have believed for a decade that he was born in late September (a date I can draw from doing the math as related to when Elizabeth's husband was doing his priestly duty against how far along the the women were in their pregnancies at that time) and that it was, likely, the first day of Sukkot.

Now... I can't prove it was the first day of Sukkot and your NON-time period source works ONLY IF everything involved was what we might call "natural." However, if the "star" that the "wise men" followed was not a star, but a supernatural beacon... then the star charts and our ability now to run the constellations back in time mean nothing. We are dealing with a God who suspended the rotation of the Earth once.. even darkened the days for an amount of time no eclipse could darken the day for (making it supernatural) and so I don't run around looking for "natural" answers and just accept this...

Yeshua was born sinless, died, and was raised in three days. Through his work and his work alone, the curse of sin and death has been reversed, death has lost it's sting... and our call is to learn God's ways and share them with all who desire to learn.
 
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Gee, nice time period source (and as if I have not seen that information before). I will say this again... I don't particularly have an issue with the date. I have believed for a decade that he was born in late September (a date I can draw from doing the math as related to when Elizabeth's husband was doing his priestly duty against how far along the the women were in their pregnancies at that time) and that it was, likely, the first day of Sukkot.

Now... I can't prove it was the first day of Sukkot and your NON-time period source works ONLY IF everything involved was what we might call "natural." However, if the "star" that the "wise men" followed was not a star, but a supernatural beacon... then the star charts and our ability now to run the constellations back in time mean nothing. We are dealing with a God who suspended the rotation of the Earth once.. even darkened the days for an amount of time no eclipse could darken the day for (making it supernatural) and so I don't run around looking for "natural" answers and just accept this...

Yeshua was born sinless, died, and was raised in three days. Through his work and his work alone, the curse of sin and death has been reversed, death has lost it's sting... and our call is to learn God's ways and share them with all who desire to learn.

Mock the website hosting the data, but disprove the data then.
The point is that the signs of His arrival were supposed to be soo obvious no one could miss them. But the only ones paying attention were Bablylonian trained magicians!

I am in agreement with you about the Mission.
Although I would further state that the purpose of the Mission isnt just conversions or helping those in need. It is also raising up the body to be knowledged in The Word, in Spiritual Battle, in Prophecy, in Discipleship, in Spiritual Authority, in Wisdom, and trained to have the strength of Character needed to always apply that wisdom.

The Churches in America today mistake breadcrumbs for miracles. Leadership in the churches view members with genuine Anointing and Capacity as either competition they want to get rid of, or a tool to manipulate for their own ego.

But true exploration of The Word, to seek out Truths which have not yet been uncovered, that is supposed to be the Joy of Kings. We should be diving in deeper and deeper. Not just reading, but studying. Studying prophecy, understanding it. Studying The Word in its original language to understand what and how much is truly within.

But it seems like the people who claim to be leaders, or the educated, always want to lord over everyone else and belittle their research and discoveries.

Its funny, i recall the Pharisees doing that too.
 
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Gee, nice time period source (and as if I have not seen that information before). I will say this again... I don't particularly have an issue with the date. I have believed for a decade that he was born in late September (a date I can draw from doing the math as related to when Elizabeth's husband was doing his priestly duty against how far along the the women were in their pregnancies at that time) and that it was, likely, the first day of Sukkot.

Now... I can't prove it was the first day of Sukkot and your NON-time period source works ONLY IF everything involved was what we might call "natural." However, if the "star" that the "wise men" followed was not a star, but a supernatural beacon... then the star charts and our ability now to run the constellations back in time mean nothing. We are dealing with a God who suspended the rotation of the Earth once.. even darkened the days for an amount of time no eclipse could darken the day for (making it supernatural) and so I don't run around looking for "natural" answers and just accept this...

Yeshua was born sinless, died, and was raised in three days. Through his work and his work alone, the curse of sin and death has been reversed, death has lost it's sting... and our call is to learn God's ways and share them with all who desire to learn.
Also, Christ being born on a feast day is almost definitely a sure thing. I havent gotten into it with regard to the actual day of birth, but its the most logical conclusion that He would be born on the feast of Tabernacles, destined to return and establish His millenial reign thus fulfilling the prophecy of the very Feast upon which He was born.
 
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Mock the website hosting the data, but disprove the data then.
The point is that the signs of His arrival were supposed to be soo obvious no one could miss them. But the only ones paying attention were Bablylonian trained magicians!

I am in agreement with you about the Mission.
Although I would further state that the purpose of the Mission isnt just conversions or helping those in need. It is also raising up the body to be knowledged in The Word, in Spiritual Battle, in Prophecy, in Discipleship, in Spiritual Authority, in Wisdom, and trained to have the strength of Character needed to always apply that wisdom.

The Churches in America today mistake breadcrumbs for miracles. Leadership in the churches view members with genuine Anointing and Capacity as either competition they want to get rid of, or a tool to manipulate for their own ego.

But true exploration of The Word, to seek out Truths which have not yet been uncovered, that is supposed to be the Joy of Kings. We should be diving in deeper and deeper. Not just reading, but studying. Studying prophecy, understanding it. Studying The Word in its original language to understand what and how much is truly within.

But it seems like the people who claim to be leaders, or the educated, always want to lord over everyone else and belittle their research and discoveries.

Its funny, i recall the Pharisees doing that too.
Dude... you have entirely missed the point. I ADMIT I hold the dates you share... can you read that??? Did you see that? I HOLD THE DATES YOU SHARED! Hello. But... you can't be dogmatic about it because >>NO TIME PERIOD WRITINGS EXIST.<< I asked you to supply them knowing they don't exist... I teach how to find time period sources so I already knew non-existed. You can't be dogmatic when you are using a man-made computer program to run the constellations back in time WHILE ignoring the possibility of something supernatural happening and expect to be correct. While I hold your date... I admit it isn't provable. The website you shared doesn't "prove with 100% certainty" anything at all.
 
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Dude... you have entirely missed the point. I ADMIT I hold the dates you share... can you read that??? Did you see that? I HOLD THE DATES YOU SHARED! Hello. But... you can't be dogmatic about it because >>NO TIME PERIOD WRITINGS EXIST.<< I asked you to supply them knowing they don't exist... I teach how to find time period sources so I already knew non-existed. You can't be dogmatic when you are using a man-made computer program to run the constellations back in time WHILE ignoring the possibility of something supernatural happening and expect to be correct. While I hold your date... I admit it isn't provable. The website you shared doesn't "prove with 100% certainty" anything at all.

I understand your point. What i am trying to help assemble however is a convictable body of evidence. Computer models sighting the timing of celestial events is pretty reliable.
However you are also accurate in Stating that God can create anything at any moment.

However it seems more likely that because He forknew all things, He took them into account during the Creation. For example, Joshua's long day which you mentioned.

There is no evidence that the Earth stopped moving for that to happen. There is however a preponderance of archealogical evidence to suggest that Mars orbit and the Earths used to come into very close proximity. When Joshua prayed to God to lengthen the day to give them time to finish the battle, God had answered His prayer before he even made man.

Mars came so close to the earth it pulled on our gravitational orbit and slowed it down. Dr. Chuck Missler goes into the technical and historic details of this if you want to verify.

It isnt a conclusive, 100% provable theory. But it does have a compelling body of evidence to support it.

The point being, God has always had a plan. That plan has never changed. Therefore His plan must have a start date, and an end date. The begining of creation all the way to the New Heaven and New Earth.

The purpose of this thread was to show that the preponderance of evidence for this reckoning of Gods Calendar aligns perfectly with Gods' Word, Historical data, Celestial data, and even coming future events.
 
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Dude... you have entirely missed the point. I ADMIT I hold the dates you share... can you read that??? Did you see that? I HOLD THE DATES YOU SHARED! Hello. But... you can't be dogmatic about it because >>NO TIME PERIOD WRITINGS EXIST.<< I asked you to supply them knowing they don't exist... I teach how to find time period sources so I already knew non-existed. You can't be dogmatic when you are using a man-made computer program to run the constellations back in time WHILE ignoring the possibility of something supernatural happening and expect to be correct. While I hold your date... I admit it isn't provable. The website you shared doesn't "prove with 100% certainty" anything at all.
I apologize for ranting earlier, it wasnt aimed at you. I loathe how contentious things get on these forums and vented. Please forgive me if i offended you in any way.
 
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Hi RAM,
I see you are pursuing that thought, and that is OK as that is what has come to mind. So I will start a thread soon regarding my thoughts on God`s calculations from the Millennium, back. Hope you can join us there.
regards, Marilyn.


I am simply trying to ascertain if your a Millennial, or Millennial+8

Oh I see A71,

And then again I`m still not sure of what that all means. So I`ll just say what I believe and you can `categorise` me. I believe there will be a thousand years (millennium) after the 6,000 years which is fast coming to an end.

duh...I just realised the +8 millennium you are all talking about and I am skim reading it all. No I believe in the Millennium of God`s timing 360 days in a (prophetic) year.

Is that clearer? Marilyn.
 
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It is noted that you provided no proof of your work. Or annotation of who's research you used.
The proof of the accuracy and reliability of my post #8, is in the 47 Bible verses that I use.
I don't use anyone else's research, as they all, including yours: conflict with what the Bible has given us.
This is mostly because, as I showed in Daniel 12:4, that no one could possibly know before now.
 
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The proof of the accuracy and reliability of my post #8, is in the 47 Bible verses that I use.
I don't use anyone else's research, as they all, including yours: conflict with what the Bible has given us.
This is mostly because, as I showed in Daniel 12:4, that no one could possibly know before now.

Your work is thorough, however i presume from post #8 you have used a masoretic based bible correct?
 
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The proof of the accuracy and reliability of my post #8, is in the 47 Bible verses that I use.
I don't use anyone else's research, as they all, including yours: conflict with what the Bible has given us.
This is mostly because, as I showed in Daniel 12:4, that no one could possibly know before now.
Also with regard to Daniel 12:4,
God didnt state that they were to be sealed up until exactly 50 years before the end, or any speciffic number of years. It is a mistake to forsake the truly exhaustive research of men like Ussher and Henry Grattan Guiness just because they came before us.

I havent met anyone or read anything from a contemporary author that can compete with the exhaustive and awe inspiring research conducted by men from the 17 to early 20th centuries.
 
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Your work is thorough, however i presume from post #8 you have used a masoretic based bible correct?
No. My Bible is the Revised English Bible, 1989 Oxford edition. A complete re-translation and written so as to convey the true meanings of Scripture to us today.
The provable historical dates of 586 BC for the Jewish conquest and 29.5 AD for Jesus Baptism, tie this time line to where we are today.
 
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Also with regard to Daniel 12:4,
God didnt state that they were to be sealed up until exactly 50 years before the end, or any speciffic number of years. It is a mistake to forsake the truly exhaustive research of men like Ussher and Henry Grattan Guiness just because they came before us.

I havent met anyone or read anything from a contemporary author that can compete with the exhaustive and awe inspiring research conducted by men from the 17 to early 20th centuries.
From the Early Church Fathers to todays prophecy experts; NONE of them have got the whole truth of prophecy. Proved by the huge variety of opinions and theories out there. There is no consensus, other that among those who have been fooled by false teachings.
Daniel 12:4 and verse 9, both say the Words are secret and sealed until the time of the end. And then only a few wise leaders will understand. Pray to be among them!
 
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No. My Bible is the Revised English Bible, 1989 Oxford edition. A complete re-translation and written so as to convey the true meanings of Scripture to us today.
The provable historical dates of 586 BC for the Jewish conquest and 29.5 AD for Jesus Baptism, tie this time line to where we are today.

"For the Old Testament the translators primarily made use of the Masoretic Text "

New English Bible - Wikipedia

The Septuagint and Masoretic text have variations in dating certain lifespans and events. This is likely where our research differs.
 
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"For the Old Testament the translators primarily made use of the Masoretic Text "

New English Bible - Wikipedia

The Septuagint and Masoretic text have variations in dating certain lifespans and events. This is likely where our research differs.
I rely on God's Word as presented in my Bible. I do often check with the NIV, ESV, CJB and NKJV, +
I also use Interlinear Scripture Analyzer.

But when I added the years as given and found how they exactly fit into 1000 year periods, then I knew they were the perfect timeline of God.
If you don't like what God has given us in His Word, then you have a problem that you should address. Don't try to kill the messenger, accept the message, or reject it to your disadvantage.
 
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