How does one repent...? Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...?

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How does one repent...? Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...? (be a sinless one) (and what does that look like...?)

What do we need to repent of...? Does your definition of repent fit my definition of repent, cause repentance can mean just a change of mind...? How can a man judge that...?

Are there steps and stages to repentance?, or do people differ from one another, each with it's own unique and different abilities/inabilities, and different strengths and weaknesses...? Are people equal...?

I don't do nearly as much bad and evil as I used to, but I cannot claim to be fully there yet either...

I would like some power over certain kinds of sins right now, why I started this thread:

What are the right ways or methods for dealing with and getting away from and out of sin...?

Anyhow,

Comments...?

God Bless!
 

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The Greek word for "repent" is "metanoia" (noun) and "matanoeo" (verb) you see as defined in the Strongs #3340, 3341: to think differently or afterwards, reconsider. After thought, change of mind. Repentance basically means a "change of mind" and the context must determine what is involved in this change of mind.

Where salvation is in view, repentance actually precedes saving faith in Christ and is not a totally separate act from faith. It is actually the same coin with two sides. Repentance is on one side, what you change your mind about and faith in Christ is on the positive side, the new direction of this change of mind. *Repentance and faith are two sides of the same experience of receiving Christ.

In the context of Luke 13:3, Jesus challenged the people's notion that they were morally superior to those who suffered in such catastrophes. He called all to repent or perish. For some people though, prior to coming to the end result of repentance in receiving salvation (faith in Christ), they must change their minds about other specific things in order to get there.

Repentance, metanoia, focuses on changing one's mind about his previous concept of God (as in Acts 17:30) and disbelief in God or false beliefs (polytheism and idolatry) about God (see 1 Thessalonians 1:9). On the other hand, this change of mind, focuses on the new direction that change about God must ultimately take, namely, trusting in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.

Certain people misunderstand the term "repentance" to simply mean "turning from sin" or "completely stop sinning." That is not the Biblical definition of repentance. In the Bible, the word "repent" means to "change your mind." The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance (change of mind). Certain people confuse the "fruit of repentance" with the "essence of repentance" (and also do the same thing with faith) and end up teaching salvation by works.

I have heard certain people say, "If you want to be saved, repent of your sins, turn from your sins." Yet if turning from your sins means to stop sinning, then people can only be saved if they stop sinning. And in that case, it is unlikely that anyone will be saved, since we don't know anyone who has ever "completely stopped sinning."
 
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Repent: being sorry and to sin no more. We are flesh and blood, it is impossible to totally eliminate sin. I have wrestled with repenting of sins, like you. I prayed, the answer; “through GOD all things are possible”. Since being born again, things of the world that I once cherished are now not desired. I find a lot of my sins are now recognized, and detested (many sins still go unrecognized), I make an honest effort to not sin and immediately say a silent prayer to be forgiven. I formally pray on my knees when I can. Faith in GOD will set us free! Christian Love!
 
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How does one repent...? Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...? (be a sinless one) (and what does that look like...?)

What do we need to repent of...? Does your definition of repent fit my definition of repent, cause repentance can mean just a change of mind...? How can a man judge that...?

Are there steps and stages to repentance?, or do people differ from one another, each with it's own unique and different abilities/inabilities, and different strengths and weaknesses...? Are people equal...?

I don't do nearly as much bad and evil as I used to, but I cannot claim to be fully there yet either...

I would like some power over certain kinds of sins right now, why I started this thread:

What are the right ways or methods for dealing with and getting away from and out of sin...?

Anyhow,

Comments...?

God Bless!
 
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The Greek word metanoeō for repent involves two parts:

(1) to change one's mind
(2) amend heartily with abhorrence of one's past sins

According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon, it can also mean:
  • to feel sorry that one has done this or that of having offended someone
  • used especially of those who, conscious of their sins and with manifest tokens of sorrow, are intent; on obtaining God's pardon
  • clothed in sackcloth and besprinkled with ashes
  • conduct worthy of a heart changed and abhorring sin
 
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How does one repent...? Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...? (be a sinless one) (and what does that look like...?)

What do we need to repent of...? Does your definition of repent fit my definition of repent, cause repentance can mean just a change of mind...? How can a man judge that...?

Are there steps and stages to repentance?, or do people differ from one another, each with it's own unique and different abilities/inabilities, and different strengths and weaknesses...? Are people equal...?

I don't do nearly as much bad and evil as I used to, but I cannot claim to be fully there yet either...

I would like some power over certain kinds of sins right now, why I started this thread:

What are the right ways or methods for dealing with and getting away from and out of sin...?

Anyhow,

Comments...?

God Bless!
Repentance is basically a change in attitude to Christ and a desire to turn to Him as Lord as well as Saviour, to turn from willful sin and depend on the Holy Spirit to develop holiness in you. We are never going to be perfect, and Paul did say that although he wanted to follow the Law of God in his heart, he found that there was another principle in the desires of this body that came into conflict with what he desired in his heart. That is the evidence of a true conversion to Christ, because an unconverted person does not have that conflict. It is only when an unconverted person comes under conviction of sin that a conflict happens, and this can lead to the person turning to Christ as Saviour. So, the flesh will war against the Spirit in us and that is the holy war we have to fight all our lives. Believe me, I have been a believer for 50 years and there is still that battle between the flesh and the Spirit. But we have 1 John 1:9 to keep short accounts with God. All God needs from us is that we talk to him about our successes, shortcomings and failures. We can talk to God about stuff that we would never dare to mention to anyone else, and in so doing, He can work with us to bring greater holiness and more victory in our lives. We will fall over a lot, but we do not stay down, but we get up and keep going, even though we may be cut and bruised in the process.

Charles Spurgeon told the story about two boats coming into the harbour. The first boat comes under full sail, decks shiny and bright, with celebration and a great welcome. The other boat has just come through a storm and its sails are ripped to shreds, the boat has a 30 degree list, and it doesn't make it to the wharf, but has to beach itself on the nearby shore and the sailors are so glad that they at least reached the harbour! Spurgeon says that this describes two types of Christian believers. Some have victory after victory in their lives and they enter heaven as victors with flags flying and trumpets blowing. But others have defeat after defeat, but through sheer determination, they get through to heaven and land there like a beached whale; but both types of believers make it to heaven and enter into the joy of their Lord.
 
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Yes it is possible. What is not possible is to repent 99%. It is either all or nothing. The ones in "the world" dont "sin" everyday either.....they can go very long periods of time without committing a religious sin. Yet, they will sin eventually. If the same is true for the "saved" How are we set apart? What is the real difference?
 
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Repent: being sorry and to sin no more. We are flesh and blood, it is impossible to totally eliminate sin. I have wrestled with repenting of sins, like you. I prayed, the answer; “through GOD all things are possible”. Since being born again, things of the world that I once cherished are now not desired. I find a lot of my sins are now recognized, and detested (many sins still go unrecognized), I make an honest effort to not sin and immediately say a silent prayer to be forgiven. I formally pray on my knees when I can. Faith in GOD will set us free! Christian Love!
Honest effort...? I like that...

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Repentance is basically a change in attitude to Christ and a desire to turn to Him as Lord as well as Saviour, to turn from willful sin and depend on the Holy Spirit to develop holiness in you. We are never going to be perfect, and Paul did say that although he wanted to follow the Law of God in his heart, he found that there was another principle in the desires of this body that came into conflict with what he desired in his heart. That is the evidence of a true conversion to Christ, because an unconverted person does not have that conflict. It is only when an unconverted person comes under conviction of sin that a conflict happens, and this can lead to the person turning to Christ as Saviour. So, the flesh will war against the Spirit in us and that is the holy war we have to fight all our lives. Believe me, I have been a believer for 50 years and there is still that battle between the flesh and the Spirit. But we have 1 John 1:9 to keep short accounts with God. All God needs from us is that we talk to him about our successes, shortcomings and failures. We can talk to God about stuff that we would never dare to mention to anyone else, and in so doing, He can work with us to bring greater holiness and more victory in our lives. We will fall over a lot, but we do not stay down, but we get up and keep going, even though we may be cut and bruised in the process.

Charles Spurgeon told the story about two boats coming into the harbour. The first boat comes under full sail, decks shiny and bright, with celebration and a great welcome. The other boat has just come through a storm and its sails are ripped to shreds, the boat has a 30 degree list, and it doesn't make it to the wharf, but has to beach itself on the nearby shore and the sailors are so glad that they at least reached the harbour! Spurgeon says that this describes two types of Christian believers. Some have victory after victory in their lives and they enter heaven as victors with flags flying and trumpets blowing. But others have defeat after defeat, but through sheer determination, they get through to heaven and land there like a beached whale; but both types of believers make it to heaven and enter into the joy of their Lord.
I like that last paragraph...

Thanks, God Bless!
 
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I think repentance is more of a state of mind/ heart issue/ view towards sin; no one is without sin. We were born in it, and it permeates through us. When we're born again, we receive the Holy Spirit, who convicts us of our sin. Our desire to sin decreases, we change our view on it.

Having said that though, just as Jesus says, we are to repent and try to be perfect, just as our Father in heaven is perfect.
 
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The Greek word metanoeō for repent involves two parts:

(1) to change one's mind
(2) amend heartily with abhorrence of one's past sins

According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon, it can also mean:
  • to feel sorry that one has done this or that of having offended someone
  • used especially of those who, conscious of their sins and with manifest tokens of sorrow, are intent; on obtaining God's pardon
  • clothed in sackcloth and besprinkled with ashes
  • conduct worthy of a heart changed and abhorring sin


Repentance is what happens when The Holy Spirit opens your eyes to see yourself as God sees you—-A wretched sinner ,totally bankrupt,incapable of saving himself....those blessed enough to see the horror of their status will not need too much prodding to cry out “God have mercy on me, a sinner”. Turning To God (true repentance ) with faith in Christ.People think they can choose Christianity like they would choose a political party—— you’ve seen it——“let me take a look at Christianity and see if I like it better than other “religions”.....God chooses you....you don’t choose Him.Pray for conviction....nothing starts until you see you are a sinner who needs a Savior.
 
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How does one repent...? Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...? (be a sinless one) (and what does that look like...?)

What do we need to repent of...? Does your definition of repent fit my definition of repent, cause repentance can mean just a change of mind...? How can a man judge that...?

Are there steps and stages to repentance?, or do people differ from one another, each with it's own unique and different abilities/inabilities, and different strengths and weaknesses...? Are people equal...?

I don't do nearly as much bad and evil as I used to, but I cannot claim to be fully there yet either...

I would like some power over certain kinds of sins right now, why I started this thread:

What are the right ways or methods for dealing with and getting away from and out of sin...?

Anyhow,

Comments...?

God Bless!
In the biblical sense, I believe repentance means we resist the temptation to sin. I don't find it an easy process, but when I start walking down the path of sin, I don't like what I see. Meanwhile, when I resist the temptation to sin, I am pretty much at peace.

Can we completely stop sinning? I have to believe we can, even if I am still somewhat shaky.
 
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How does one repent...?
First, there is repentance from being a child of Satan, and becoming a newborn child of God > Ephesians 1:12, Acts 26:18.

Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...?
Then there is correction . . . for every child of God > Hebrews 12:4-11. I see this scripture means that every child of God will always need more correction, somehow. So, yes we keep changing . . . metanoia . . . as far as needing more to become like Jesus who can not sin.

Can one fully repent 100% and maintain it in this world...? (be a sinless one) (and what does that look like...?)
I personally now understand that God is conforming all of us to become like Jesus, but we still have stuff not perfectly like Jesus in our nature; so more or less wrong stuff still can get the better of us. But as Jesus grows in us as our new inner Person > Galatians 4:19 < He takes the place of the human nature which is capable of sinning in various ways.

More and more, we are "strong in the Lord and in the power of His might" > please see Ephesians 6:10. And do consider how Jesus in us is almighty against however we could sin. More and more, we share with Jesus in us. And so we become more loving and pleasing to God even like Jesus His Son is so pleasing (2 Corinthians 3:14-15, Ephesians 5:2). And Jesus has us learning >

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, our attention needs to be to Jesus, most of all . . . not to if and how much we are sinning. God can keep score on that, as much as He pleases; but God is busy with bringing real correction and Jesus is busy with having us learn all Jesus has us learning.

So, a good question might need to be . . . what is Jesus having us learn? What do we learn simply by having Jesus growing in us as our new inner Person?

We learn how God's love has us becoming like Jesus, how we become pleasing to our Father the way Jesus in us has us becoming pleasing to our Father. We also discover how we become able to relate with one another while also even loving and having hope for any and all people.

This is what grace does in us; we learn how grace works, by actual experience of how God in His love in us cures our nature and has us sharing with Him and loving . . . more and more like Jesus.

Jesus in us has us discovering this . . . demonstrating > a teacher does not only tell us things, but demonstrates and gives us laboratory experiences.

What do we need to repent of...?
"all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (in Romans 3:23). God desires to share with us in His very own glory > John 17:22-26. So, we sin by not sharing with our Heavenly Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit in Their very own glory. Therefore, we are predestined by God "to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Romans 8:29)

Plus, we need to love, more and more the way Jesus loves us as His family and dearly and compassionately and with hope loves even God's enemies. Jesus on the cross died with hope for any evil person, at all > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7).

So, God is changing us to be more and more mature in His love, so we share-so with Him and our Groom Jesus and one another >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

Does your definition of repent fit my definition of repent, cause repentance can mean just a change of mind...? How can a man judge that...?
I think your mind is deeper than just what you are thinking. There is the spiritual nature of our mind, which makes us natural at what we do. Our mind can mean our disposition . . . effecting what we mind with our attention, what we mind doing and having happen to us. So, our mind and heart are possibly related to each other. Surely, Jesus does not want only our minds to change, meaning only our thinking.

"and be renewed in the spirit of your mind," (Ephesians 4:23)

So, we need how God changes us where our thoughts and feelings and reactions and choices are coming from >

"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13)

Are there steps and stages to repentance?, or do people differ from one another, each with it's own unique and different abilities/inabilities, and different strengths and weaknesses...? Are people equal...?
Each of us is a member of the body of Jesus. Members have similarities, but also major differences. We all need the same love blood of the Holy Spirit. We all need energy of love. We all need nervous and endocrine regulation.

But things we do can be very different, but while each of us receives and ministers-on the grace of how God's love effects us and matures us "in all things" > please see Ephesians 4:15 in context, and >

We all help one another, ministering God's own grace to one another > 1 Peter 4:9-10. And no part of a body grows stronger and healthier all by itself. We grow together, and mature together.

I would like some power over certain kinds of sins right now,
"Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much." (James 5:16)

"Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation," (in Philippians 2:14-16)

This is possible with God, and God does no less in us. So, we fail because we choose the wrong things or because we are trying to make ourselves change. We need to look to and purely depend on God, submit to Him, discover how He succeeds.

And notice how Paul says to stop "complaining and disputing" > these are anti-love things. As we get strong in love, we become more and more easily able to stop what is directly against loving God and loving people. And the foolish and selfish pleasure stuff will become less and less as we become so satisfied in God's love and His stability . . . shared with us . . . while we share with Him in His glory of this love.
 
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Repentance is basically a change in attitude to Christ and a desire to turn to Him as Lord as well as Saviour, to turn from willful sin and depend on the Holy Spirit to develop holiness in you. We are never going to be perfect, and Paul did say that although he wanted to follow the Law of God in his heart, he found that there was another principle in the desires of this body that came into conflict with what he desired in his heart. That is the evidence of a true conversion to Christ, because an unconverted person does not have that conflict. It is only when an unconverted person comes under conviction of sin that a conflict happens, and this can lead to the person turning to Christ as Saviour. So, the flesh will war against the Spirit in us and that is the holy war we have to fight all our lives. Believe me, I have been a believer for 50 years and there is still that battle between the flesh and the Spirit. But we have 1 John 1:9 to keep short accounts with God. All God needs from us is that we talk to him about our successes, shortcomings and failures. We can talk to God about stuff that we would never dare to mention to anyone else, and in so doing, He can work with us to bring greater holiness and more victory in our lives. We will fall over a lot, but we do not stay down, but we get up and keep going, even though we may be cut and bruised in the process.

Charles Spurgeon told the story about two boats coming into the harbour. The first boat comes under full sail, decks shiny and bright, with celebration and a great welcome. The other boat has just come through a storm and its sails are ripped to shreds, the boat has a 30 degree list, and it doesn't make it to the wharf, but has to beach itself on the nearby shore and the sailors are so glad that they at least reached the harbour! Spurgeon says that this describes two types of Christian believers. Some have victory after victory in their lives and they enter heaven as victors with flags flying and trumpets blowing. But others have defeat after defeat, but through sheer determination, they get through to heaven and land there like a beached whale; but both types of believers make it to heaven and enter into the joy of their Lord.
Rather than "sheer determination," Spiritual leadership / embrace.

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I think repentance is a lifelong process, not a one-time event. As much as we try not to, we fall into sin because we are human. Congregants in The Episcopal Church renew their Baptismal vows at every Baptism. One question we are asked to respond to is:

Will you persevere in resisting evil, and , whenever
you fall into sin, repent and return to the Lord?
it is not that we will not sin. It is that we will not stay in a state of sin. Whenever we fall short, we will repent, return to the Lord, and try not to sin again (but probably fail).
 
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Questions:
Why does one repent?
Is it a prerequisite to salvation?
Is it a prerequisite to forgiveness of sin?
Is it a spiritual gift from God?


If one is blessed enough to be convicted of sin by The Holy Spirit,seeing they are a sinner that needs a Savior, turning to God , which is what repentance is in regard to Salvation should occur naturally .You have a “change of mind” from whatever beliefs you previously held to the reality that you need to trust in The Shed Blood of Christ for Salvation
 
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I think repentance is more of a state of mind/ heart issue/ view towards sin; no one is without sin. We were born in it, and it permeates through us. When we're born again, we receive the Holy Spirit, who convicts us of our sin. Our desire to sin decreases, we change our view on it.

Having said that though, just as Jesus says, we are to repent and try to be perfect, just as our Father in heaven is perfect.

This idea that "nobody's perfect" is man's excuse to justify himself by relativity. But, God is not going to line us all up in "amount of sin order" and say--"okay, I'm accepting all these who committed x amount of sins or less". Instead God might say: "What did you do with the new nature I was able to give you--because of My Son's suffering and death to pay for what you had done and therefore enabling me to rebirth you from your state of spiritual death? And what did you do with the Holy Spirit I gave you to be your counselor, comforter, and guide? After all, I said He would lead you into all Truth. And, I said "For if you live after the flesh, you will die; but if you through the Spirit do put to death the deeds of the body, you shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Rom 8:13-4)

But, that isn't what the Scripture says. Jesus really said: "Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48) "Every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.... Whoever abides in Him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen Him, neither knows Him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil....Whoever is born of God does not sin; for His Seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother." (select verses from 1 John 3:3-10) And that is only a selection of 1 John, not all of it. There is much more reiteration of this same topic.
 
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