I believe the day will come that we to completely stop sinning, but it isn't easy and we need the Lord's help.Well when I read this:
it kind of made several of us wonder what you meant by it.
tulc(didn't want to jump to a false conclusion which is why he asked)
It would be a mistake, I think, to wait till after we die before we repent. I think it can be done now. Heaven is waiting for us. Check out Matthew 4:17 again.would that day be after we die or before?
tulc(is again just trying to understand)
I'm seeing we're sort of missing each others point here: I believe we should repent before we die. I also don't believe we can be sinless until we die. See my point? We repent because we sin, we sin because we're sinners and wont stop until we're in Heaven. But in this life? Not so much.
But I think you're wrong. I haven't reached perfection but I think it can be achieved. It doesn't have to wait till we die.I'm seeing we're sort of missing each others point here: I believe we should repent before we die. I also don't believe we can be sinless until we die. See my point? We repent because we sin, we sin because we're sinners and wont stop until we're in Heaven. But in this life? Not so much.
tulc(is really only speaking only for himself on this subject)
It's a tall mountain to climb, but I think that's where heaven is.
Of course, we have all sinned, but the Lord commanded us to repent.
My problem with that is that the most mature Christians that I've either had the pleasure of meeting or read about over the years are also the ones among us who seem the most thrilled about/beholden to God's grace, mercy, forgiveness, loving-kindness and patience (because the more they've come to know Jesus, and the more they've grown to be like Him, the further apart from Him and His perfection they all seem to realize that they are, or so I've been told/read).
(but that will not be on this side of Glory I'm afraid)!
The thing about sin is that it brings trouble into our lives. That is why the Lord told us not to do it.My problem with that is that the most mature Christians that I've either had the pleasure of meeting or read about over the years are also the ones among us who seem the most thrilled about/beholden to God's grace, mercy, forgiveness, loving-kindness and patience (because the more they've come to know Jesus, and the more they've grown to be like Him, the further apart from Him and His perfection they all seem to realize that they are, or so I've been told/read).
But there is a time when will be like Him
me too, but thank Jesus for these scriptures:
Actually on this site a lot of OPs used to challenge the Gospel of Luke, Acts and all of Paul's epistles as not inspired by the Holy Spirit. That actually prompted a site rule change.
The NT epistles do speak of repentance. Yet remember they were written to the ekklesia and not unbelievers.
