Hello fellow followers of Christ

Josh S.

New Member
Feb 1, 2018
3
3
44
Texas
✟7,962.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hello all! I am excited to become a part of this forum and I look forward to reading and taking part in as much discussion as I can.
Cliff Notes:
I'm 38, parents divorced when I was 3 and was then raised by my mom as a catholic/ baptist/ Christian/ non-denominational. I have an older sister, older brother and older half-brother. I remember when I was very young my mom teaching me the rosary, reciting my Our Fathers and Hail Mary's as we moved through the beads. My grandma, is Hispanic and was brought up catholic, shes 99 now, but I'm almost positive this is where, at least how I remember, I was introduced to the catholic church. Throughout the years my mom struggled with churches and all of the denominations and, while I lived with her, went through quite A few of them. I prayed nearly everyday when I was younger and my prayers were always answered. I always sensed Christ and his presence in my heart, but around the age of 16 or 17 I started to backslide. I stopped praying to him, I listened to the people around me, whom I truly respected and thought very highly of, explain to me why they don't believe in God or that we were all created by him. Some of the most educated people I know, including and most influential, my own brother, would offer explanations and theory's, all of which seemed to make sense, of why people believed in God. They would try to poke holes in The Bible, while offering scientific and philosophic evidence for why God is a silly idea, and that those who believed in Him were somehow of a lower intellect/ class or something. This was huge for me. I really really looked up to, respected, and love my brother, and of all the members of my fractured family, and the turmoil we all went through in the years following my parents divorce, he was by far the one I was closest to and loved the most. I listened to him, and, around 16 or 17. I was brought back to Christ by my wife a couple of years ago, and lately my relationship with Jesus Christ and my wife has been growing exponentially stronger, much stronger than it ever has. While I always knew in my heart Christ was indeed very real, and that he loved me, I have never had a relationship with him and I now feel it growing stronger everyday. He fills my heart with His love and His presence within me is amazing.
I still love my brother more than I can possibly describe and I always will, however he is a complete atheist. He is (in a sense) smart, reads almost everything, nearly completed his PHD in Geophysics at SMU, but became a stay at home dad upon his wife's graduating from law school. He thinks he is too smart to believe in God it seems. This has been weighing very heavily on my heart, and more so lately. I think about it in the morning, throughout the day and at night before bed. It brings me to tears. I hate the idea of spending eternity without him in Gods Kingdom. I don't know what to do or say to him. He has always looked to me as inferior to him in knowledge, politics, etc.., as in his eyes I am still just his little brother, and there is nothing I could know more about than he.
Lately I have been studying up more on the bible and its prophecies, listening to Christian apologetics, trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can. I want to talk to him but I will need to be armed with counter arguments.
Can anyone offer any advice on how to approach him about this. It's something we just don't talk about anymore. Any help is appreciated, God bless you all.
 

chevyontheriver

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Sep 29, 2015
19,297
16,132
Flyoverland
✟1,236,301.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-American-Solidarity
I think your grandmother was on to something. Your wife too. Both of them are blessings for you. I imagine your grandmother has prayed long and hard for you and continues to pray long and hard for your brother. I think that is the way to go, that and him knowing that you love him as deeply as you do. My own brother ridicules the faith with regularity. He thinks much like your brother does. I deal with it in small doses. He says his thing and I do my best to counter it. Thing is, after trying to understand him, I can see the prejudice that goes into his opinions. And so I know better what to say. So, do try hard to understand your brother, what pushed him to his present situation. The reasoning against the faith is ALWAYS flawed. It's just a matter of understanding the flaw. And then loving him as you patiently expose the flaws.
 
Upvote 0

Josh S.

New Member
Feb 1, 2018
3
3
44
Texas
✟7,962.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I think your grandmother was on to something. Your wife too. Both of them are blessings for you. I imagine your grandmother has prayed long and hard for you and continues to pray long and hard for your brother. I think that is the way to go, that and him knowing that you love him as deeply as you do. My own brother ridicules the faith with regularity. He thinks much like your brother does. I deal with it in small doses. He says his thing and I do my best to counter it. Thing is, after trying to understand him, I can see the prejudice that goes into his opinions. And so I know better what to say. So, do try hard to understand your brother, what pushed him to his present situation. The reasoning against the faith is ALWAYS flawed. It's just a matter of understanding the flaw. And then loving him as you patiently expose the flaws.
THank you, It is how I feel as well. There is so much wrong with everything he can tell me. I pray God gives me the words I need to light that fire inside of him.
 
Upvote 0

Brotherly Spirit

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 22, 2017
1,079
817
35
Virginia
✟224,439.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Hello Josh S., thanks for your introduction. It's clear you have struggled with your faith, but you're strong in it. It's a smart idea to inform yourself (something I need to do too), just remember the best example is yourself in life showing what you believe.
 
Upvote 0

Josh S.

New Member
Feb 1, 2018
3
3
44
Texas
✟7,962.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hello Josh S., thanks for your introduction. It's clear you have struggled with your faith, but you're strong in it. It's a smart idea to inform yourself (something I need to do too), just remember the best example is yourself in life showing what you believe.
Thank you, we are trying to do that as well. I think leading by example is very important as well. It is going to be quite the task but I believe Christ will work through me to help show him the light.
 
Upvote 0

sopie0426

New Member
Feb 2, 2018
3
2
34
Arizona
✟15,661.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Thank you for such an honest introduction. I am new to forums as well and your intro was the first one I read. I am struggling a lot with my family. All of them at one time believed in God and became a Christian. All of them have since turned away because of the world and I have been trying to show them the way back to God. Something my preacher told me, is pride gets in the way when it comes to family. He told me that I might not be the one that will bring them back to their faith because of still being family and what would I know being the last Christian standing? So he suggested that I try to find someone unrelated that they might be willing to talk to or have a bible study with because you can treat people different when you are not related to them. That is something I am working on now. Is finding an answer from someone that they will listen to since my voice is not what they want to hear. I hope and pray for your brother and your family. So glad that your wife helped you come back to the Lord. Spouses are a true blessing from God.
 
Upvote 0

drjean

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Nov 16, 2011
15,273
4,517
✟313,070.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
images
So many of us have family members who KNOW of God but for various reasons have felt betrayed or let down or something else they use as an excuse to not be close to God. I prayed over 40 years for my mother's salvation, just living what she taught and what we in the family had all learned in church (Pop took us every Sunday). Finally at age 80, she was watching one of the preachers I always talked about, on tv and prayed "that prayer".

You know your brother's upbringing and teaching. Rather than be the "authority" (I'm not judging, just know how things go) entice your brother to discuss the good things of God---How He loves us no matter what, how He will squash the evil in the world that affects us so negatively... not face to face confrontations, but get to real discussions... and ask more questions of him than give your beliefs. I think this way the Holy Spirit will work on his thinking long after the discussion.

WHEN you pray don't beg God, because He has told us salvation of all is HIS choice and HIS will... so ask and then remind Him that you are trusting in His promises which he ALWAYS keeps... that your family member(s) will find salvation too.
 
Upvote 0

look4hope

Love.Fellowship.Joy
Angels Team
CF Ambassadors
Site Supporter
Dec 6, 2012
3,487
1,940
Somewhere in Jersey
✟382,922.00
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Private
Hi John. You’ve kept strong in this and so glad to hear your abuela and wife Are as well. Being Hispanic myself brought up Catholic, I can understand the roots from where your views come from. I have a younger brother that considers himself atheist. I do my best to keep politics and religion out of our conversations because there is always an argument that follow after...so That’s that.

However, I’ve come to the conclusion that even so we don’t chat about it...I keep my beliefs and faith strong around him by not giving up hope. Does that make sense? :mmh:
 
Upvote 0