It Will Be Like the Days of Noah

Why is this thread in the Eschatology section?

Man on Fire said:

In the case of sexual assault......give the man was possessed....she may have let down her walls.

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Or she may have been a child and an innocent victim of his assault.

Cat Loaf You said:

God flood the world not because people were wicked but because angels raped woman and corrupted DNA , Noah was not perfect like sinless because we would call him Messiah if he was , he was perfect in fact that his DNA was not corrupted .

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I just saw a program on t.v. about the archeological discovery of human skulls the size of an entire height of an average built man. I also did a little exploring into the Book of Enoch.....very informative but not sure how accurate and reliable it is. However, it does seem to tie up some loose strings into how Giants came to exist.

Man on Fire said:

Women tend to mold to men. A man marries a virgin, and she may grow feeling for him over time, and change to be with him.

The Soul is intrinsic. It is part of you. It is your character and experiences and decisions you have made. Spirits influence motivations. How is someone motived? Someone with the Spirit of God tends think about God and do God related activities a lot. Not to be seen doing it but because intrinsically, he is motived to. He loves God.

Many people go to Church and they may have walls up. They have walls along their soul that they may have built to keep people out. They may have built walls up to God. Someone who accepts God's spirit lets down those walls.

In the case of sexual assault......give the man was possessed....she may have let down her walls. It is a tough topic to discuss. Someone willingly choosing to go to a Temple of Baal to be a Prostitute is a lot like someone choosing to be in a Black Mass.

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Sorry, but you cannot philosphize away what the main event was about that caused God to bring a flood in Noah's day, that main event being a group of Satan's angels leaving their habitation and coming to earth to take wives of flesh woman, and the result being a giant hybrid race that knocked God's Salvation Plan out of balance.

Gen 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
KJV

Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV

There are several descriptions in God's Word about the giants being of larger stature than a normal man, and the giant in 2 Samuel 21 having six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot, pointing to a geneaological abnormality. Some scientists at the Smithsonian have admitted in a court case that they intentionally tried to hide the bone artifacts left of those giants which at one time walked this earth.

Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900's


In the following verse, the Hebrew word for "perfect" is the word used for an unblemished sacrificial animal required by God for old covenant sacrifice. That reveals what the matter was about in Noah's day, bloodline purity of one's lineage not having been tainted by Satan's angels.

Gen 6:9
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
KJV

Old Newspaper Articles of Discovered Skeletons of Giants:

Giants - newspapers

So when our Lord Jesus warned that the end of this world would be just like the days of Noe (Noah), the meaning involves the coming of Satan's angels to this earth like they did in the days of Noah per Genesis 6.

We were shown in Revelation 12:7 forward about Satan and his angels being cast down to this earth out of the heavenly dimension for the end of this world. Why can't brethren believe that as it's written? Why make up a bunch of philosophy of demons and exorcisms when that's not what the angels of Genesis 6 did?

Jude 1 shows those angels left their own habitation, meaning they came to earth and manifested in OUR earthly dimension. Why do those who say they believe God's Word continually reject the descriptions in God's Word of angels manifesting in our earth dimension on earth? Why must some make up boogie-man type stories to get one's understanding away from the simplicity of the Scriptures on this matter?

Man on Fire said:

For it to be like the days of Noah, all sin has to corrupted in your view?

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Well it depends

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

I see these verses like
a) unexpected destruction of God's enemies
b) Noah and Lot knew what is going to happen and were not surprised , so we won't be surprised same way when Jesus will take us away

But yes , Jesus said it will be Great Tribulation , WWII isn't even close to what will happen , what was that 1M Jews killed during WWII or something ? Tribulation will be much worse for Jews and for everybody , 2/3 of Jews will die and 2/3 of whole world ( like 2-3B people ) will die aswell .

So like days of Noah flood but some type of nuke flood rather than water one .

Postvieww said:

Verse 2 many interpret to mean Godly men procreated with ungodly women. To me that makes no sense .

1. That kind of union will not produce giants

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You will refuse to accept the idea about the Godly men (or people) procreated with unbelieving women (or people) because you don't believe they will produce giants or Nephilims to fit your false doctrines of Supermen, Supernatural, or celestial fallen angels. That is where many of you got giants all misunderstood.

The Hebrew word [nephel] was often used by people like you to name for an alien race or celestial being. The fact is, it is NOT a name for an extraterrestrial or some being that is foreign to this world. No! It is a DESCRIPTION of a TYPE of people who are already existed on earth. The root meaning of the world Nephel is giant, from "FELL'er" or to make fall.

What God was talking about is someone "BIG" or a "GIANT" person. Thus, it is correctly translated giants here. But there is no mystery here, really. It has to do with a giant in STATURE or a giant in position. As in famous or in a champion. They are NOT the product of angels mating. The whole idea is preposterous! The word translated Giants just means they were big, or of great stature. It didn't identify an alien or angels.

In fact, we can see that clearly as we read the word as it is seen in Numbers chapter 13:

Numbers 13:33

• "And there we saw the giants [nephel] the sons of Anak, which come of the giants [gibbowr], and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

You see, here we have that word again. Nephel, the sons of Anak (a man). That is again proof that the word nephel is not describing a new race or angels, but is an attribute. Because they were the sons of the Anakims, who Joshua destroyed in Canaan. These could hardly be the same race of nephilims that were "before" the flood, so the whole idea concerning this word is ludicrous. Or are we to believe that angels dropped by again after the flood to mate with Human women once again? Notice that second word translated Giants is the Hebrew word [gibbowr]. It means warriors or strong Champions. And note the fear of these men were because they were--BIG! That is why they were called nephel (Giants). Verse 32 declares plainly that they were "of great stature". So clearly they were afraid of them because they were unusually big people. But it has nothing to do with angels mating with the daughters of men anymore than the tall people in Africa today have anything to do with that. They were simply a tribe or family of big people who would frighten you if you had to battle them. Would you rather to go to battle against an army of people the size of a basketball or football player, or an army of men standing only about 5 feet 9 inches. The answer is obvious. The natural man delights in creating a mystery where none exists because the truth doesn't seem exotic or sensational enough for him so that they desire something more. But the truth is that these were the giants in the land of that day, and nothing more.

TribulationSigns said:

You will refuse to accept the idea about the Godly men (or people) procreated with unbelieving women (or people) because you don't believe they will produce giants or Nephilims to fit your false doctrines of Supermen, Supernatural, or celestial fallen angels. That is where many of you got giants all misunderstood.

The Hebrew word [nephel] was often used by people like you to name for an alien race or celestial being. The fact is, it is NOT a name for an extraterrestrial or some being that is foreign to this world. No! It is a DESCRIPTION of a TYPE of people who are already existed on earth. The root meaning of the world Nephel is giant, from "FELL'er" or to make fall.

What God was talking about is someone "BIG" or a "GIANT" person. Thus, it is correctly translated giants here. But there is no mystery here, really. It has to do with a giant in STATURE or a giant in position. As in famous or in a champion. They are NOT the product of angels mating. The whole idea is preposterous! The word translated Giants just means they were big, or of great stature. It didn't identify an alien or angels.

In fact, we can see that clearly as we read the word as it is seen in Numbers chapter 13:

Numbers 13:33

• "And there we saw the giants [nephel] the sons of Anak, which come of the giants [gibbowr], and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

You see, here we have that word again. Nephel, the sons of Anak (a man). That is again proof that the word nephel is not describing a new race or angels, but is an attribute. Because they were the sons of the Anakims, who Joshua destroyed in Canaan. These could hardly be the same race of nephilims that were "before" the flood, so the whole idea concerning this word is ludicrous. Or are we to believe that angels dropped by again after the flood to mate with Human women once again? Notice that second word translated Giants is the Hebrew word [gibbowr]. It means warriors or strong Champions. And note the fear of these men were because they were--BIG! That is why they were called nephel (Giants). Verse 32 declares plainly that they were "of great stature". So clearly they were afraid of them because they were unusually big people. But it has nothing to do with angels mating with the daughters of men anymore than the tall people in Africa today have anything to do with that. They were simply a tribe or family of big people who would frighten you if you had to battle them. Would you rather to go to battle against an army of people the size of a basketball or football player, or an army of men standing only about 5 feet 9 inches. The answer is obvious. The natural man delights in creating a mystery where none exists because the truth doesn't seem exotic or sensational enough for him so that they desire something more. But the truth is that these were the giants in the land of that day, and nothing more.

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No, the truth is that the Genesis 6 event actually happened as... written. The term "sons of God" then meant angels, not gibbor (mighty men). And as far as trying to overly focus on their offspring the giants and reinterpreting Hebrew naphal to point away from the angels taking wives of flesh women, that doesn't work.

And yes, there was... a 2nd irruption of the fallen angels mating with flesh woman again after... the flood. It is what "also after that" is pointing to in the Gen.6:4 verse.

Gen 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
KJV

Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV

You're trying to rest your whole theory of the giants just being a group of strong men on that last phrase involving "mighty men" while rejecting the involvement of those "sons of God" taking wives of flesh women to produce offspring. So in reality, you have left the Scripture as written, because the "mighty men" idea is not what explains their unique existence.

2 Sam 21:19-20
19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
KJV

Davy said:

And yes, there was... a 2nd irruption of the fallen angels mating with flesh woman again after... the flood. It is what "also after that" is pointing to in the Gen.6:4 verse.

Gen 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
KJV

Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV

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No. God was not talking about fallen angels mating with earthly women. You got the sons of God part wrong. You fail to understand that there were two families in this world. There is the family of God, the sons of God, and the family of the Devil, the daughters of man. Since the beginning with Cain and Abel, God has always separated his children from the unbelieving seed. Abel was a child of God, while Cain lived in unbelief, and at enmity with both God and his son, Abel. Thus Cain ultimately killed Abel, and was, in turn, send out, "separated" from the family of God and become the family of Satan, spiritually speaking.

It was that these were the sons of God who were commanded not to mix with the lawless daughters of men. It was a continuation of the principles recorded in Genesis, that they were "set apart" so that they might not be tempted by their Godlessness, idolatry, and wickedness. This is what the sons of God lusted after! Ezra wrote this and confirmed what God said in Genesis 6!

Ezra 9:1

• "..The priests and the Levites, have not Separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the canaanites, the hittites, the perizites, the Jebusites, the Amonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, the Amorites. For they have taken of their Daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have mingled themselves with the people of those lands.."

Note the error of what the sons of Israel (the Sons of God) had done here? They had done the exact same thing that we read about in Genesis chapter 6. They had desired and gone after the infidel daughters of men who lived in the nations around them. Look at the language there, as it shows this was an abomination to God. God says they mingled the Holy seed. Simply put, these Sons of God were not to be yoked together with unbelievers, and that is exactly what they did. They were not be seduced by their beauty to take of their daughters for wives, nor let their sons go after these women who didn't know God. This is an exact same principle that the sons of God are to uphold EVEN TODAY! Although it seems our churches have chosen to abandon God's laws concerning this precept and do whatever seems right in their own eyes, exactly as those in Israel of old did.

Genesis 6:2

• "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

They took wives of the un-saved daughters of the giants [nephil], the big or renowned people of that time, and they gave birth to children who were spiritually divided and became mighty champions or famous. Probably much like what we think of as famous gladiators. An analogy today would probably be man's heroes, like basketball players, or great leaders, movie stars, or even famous false prophets like Joel Osteen or Oprah. In other words, someone who is a hero, famous, a protagonist, someone renowned or a champion. People were looking up to them and all the laws of God were left behind (sound familiar). That's what happens when you have the children of God yoked with unbelievers. The seed is mingled with unbelief and there is a falling away from God because the spouse (being ungodly) doesn't want to follow God's laws.

So please spare us from your fantasy doctrine about sexual lust fallen angels breeding earthly women end ends up having giants. This is NOT what God talked about. You got wrong idea about everything surrounding sons of God and Giants.

TribulationSigns said:

No. God was not talking about fallen angels mating with earthly women. You got the sons of God part wrong. You fail to understand that there were two families in this world. There is the family of God, the sons of God, and the family of the Devil, the daughters of man. Since the beginning with Cain and Abel, God has always separated his children from the unbelieving seed. Abel was a child of God, while Cain lived in unbelief, and at enmity with both God and his son, Abel. Thus Cain ultimately killed Abel, and was, in turn, send out, "separated" from the family of God and become the family of Satan, spiritually speaking.

It was that these were the sons of God who were commanded not to mix with the lawless daughters of men. It was a continuation of the principles recorded in Genesis, that they were "set apart" so that they might not be tempted by their Godlessness, idolatry, and wickedness. This is what the sons of God lusted after! Ezra wrote this and confirmed what God said in Genesis 6!

Ezra 9:1

• "..The priests and the Levites, have not Separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the canaanites, the hittites, the perizites, the Jebusites, the Amonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, the Amorites. For they have taken of their Daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have mingled themselves with the people of those lands.."

Note the error of what the sons of Israel (the Sons of God) had done here? They had done the exact same thing that we read about in Genesis chapter 6. They had desired and gone after the infidel daughters of men who lived in the nations around them. Look at the language there, as it shows this was an abomination to God. God says they mingled the Holy seed. Simply put, these Sons of God were not to be yoked together with unbelievers, and that is exactly what they did. They were not be seduced by their beauty to take of their daughters for wives, nor let their sons go after these women who didn't know God. This is an exact same principle that the sons of God are to uphold EVEN TODAY! Although it seems our churches have chosen to abandon God's laws concerning this precept and do whatever seems right in their own eyes, exactly as those in Israel of old did.

Genesis 6:2

• "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

They took wives of the un-saved daughters of the giants [nephil], the big or renowned people of that time, and they gave birth to children who were spiritually divided and became mighty champions or famous. Probably much like what we think of as famous gladiators. An analogy today would probably be man's heroes, like basketball players, or great leaders, movie stars, or even famous false prophets like Joel Osteen or Oprah. In other words, someone who is a hero, famous, a protagonist, someone renowned or a champion. People were looking up to them and all the laws of God were left behind (sound familiar). That's what happens when you have the children of God yoked with unbelievers. The seed is mingled with unbelief and there is a falling away from God because the spouse (being ungodly) doesn't want to follow God's laws.

So please spare us from your fantasy doctrine about sexual lust fallen angels breeding earthly women end ends up having giants. This is NOT what God talked about. You got wrong idea about everything surrounding sons of God and Giants.

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That misses the mark because the reason why God told Israel to totally destroy those specific Canaanite nations when He first led Israel into the land was because of the 2nd irruption of the sons of God to produce hybrid giants. The giants were mixed in among those nations of Canaan.

Deut 3:11
11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
KJV

TribulationSigns said:

No. God was not talking about fallen angels mating with earthly women. You got the sons of God part wrong. You fail to understand that there were two families in this world. There is the family of God, the sons of God, and the family of the Devil, the daughters of man. ....

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Your basis of what the family of God is, is skewed:

Job 1:6
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
KJV

In the Old Testament Books, the term "sons of God" is used for angels, and can mean either Satan's angels (like the above example), or all of God's angels like in Job 38:7.

Furthermore, in the Hebrew of Gen.6:2 "daughters of men" is about the daughters of the man Adam. In the Hebrew the article and particle are there as eth ha aadam, pointing specifically to the man Adam which God formed in His Garden in Genesis 2.

"As in the days before the flood"... Those days are known; they can be counted.