When A GENTILE....

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Dave-W

It appears you have become frustrated.
I asked what is a Gentiles Sin, God forgave them for.

The conversation brought up ...
Works and Repentance and continued asking for forgiveness.


I disagree ~ that works or lack thereof were or are a SIN unto ANY man under Grace.

Repentance ~
You say is to mindfully turn away....
I presume, from what does not Glorify God.

The Lord Himself reveals ~

Gen 6
[7] and the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth.....for it repenteth me I have made them.

Was God Sorry/Remorseful, he had made man?

Gen 5, says the WHY, he repented.

Gen 5
....grieved Him in His heart.

Where IS THE WHY, in the act of WHY one turns away?

Greeks teach, it is in the MIND. A decision of the MIND, to turn away from something.

Scripture teaches, concerning Spiritual things, it is always about the thoughts of Heart.
If a mans HEART is grieved, for NOT believing in God.....He can be SORRY/REMORSEFUL/GRIEVED in HIS HEART....and REPENT? TURN AWAY from DISBELIEF "in his heart"...and Confess belief OF GOD, in his HEART, TO GOD?

So IF REPENT, means to MINDFULLY turn away....

WHEN would that "MINDFUL" decision be "satisfactory" to God?

I'll answer for you....

1) AFTER a man has become Born of God,
(Ie having received the Spirit of God).

2) AFTER a man listens to the Spirit of Truth, in his own quickened spirit, OVER his natural MIND, that his natrual mind becomes subjected to the thoughts of his quickened spirit, (in his heart) taught by the Spirit of God, (in the mans heart).

WHY?

Rom 8
7: Because the carnal mind is enmity AGAINST God.

I ask SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, precisely Because "MOST" Christians, do NOT KNOW WHAT applies to them, OR WHY something DOES or DOES NOT apply to them.

MOST Christians, DO NOT SEEM to recognize, the Jewish Law WAS NOT DESTROYED, and that they are being TAUGHT BY JEWS, who were teaching JEWS, who STILL INCLUDED their LAWS in their teaching.

A MAN UNDER GRACE, is supposed to LEARN from the JEWS, what IS a FAVORABLE WAY, to Glorify Gods Name.....

A MAN UNDER GRACE, is NOT SUPPOSED to pretend, what was a SIN, unto a Jews, Under their Law, is ALSO a SIN unto a man UNDER GRACE.

However, all day long in Christian Churches, what was/is A SIN unto a Jew (under the Jewish Law), is "TAUGHT" IS a SIN unto a Man, under Grace.

Scripture teaches to DIVIDE the Word of TRUTH.

Which means, the WHOLE of Scripture is TRUE......but the WHOLE of Scripture DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE.

A Jew teaching WHAT Glorifies Gods Name...
IS A TRUTH.

A Jew teaching a JEW, to DO A WORK, NOT Glorifying to Gods NAME, IS A SIN....
IS A SIN ACCORDING TO JEWISH LAW.

It is NOT a SIN to a man UNDER GRACE;
A man UNDER GRACE, WHO DOES ANY WORKS THAT DO NOT GLORIFY GODS NAME, is a MAN UNDER GRACE, WHO SHALL FORFEIT receiving a REWARD from God.

WORKS are ALL ABOUT "SERVICE".
A JEW, whose "SERVICE" is NOT Glorifying to God....is a Jew (according to THEIR LAW), a man WHO IS COMMITTING A SIN.

A man who IS UNDER GRACE, has ONE reasonable "SERVICE", acceptable to God.

Rom 12:1
...that ye present your BODIES
"A LIVING SACRIFICE", holy, "UNTO GOD"
Which "IS" YOUR REASONABLE "SERVICE".

Thereafter, EVERY WORK that you do that DOES GLORIFY GODS GREAT NAMES....
God Himself, SHALL REWARD YOU.

And IF YOU DO NOTHING TO GLORIFY GODS NAME.....? You forfeit receiving rewards from God.

And IF YOU Speak AGAINST the WORD OF GOD, Scriptures ?
You have grieved the Holy Spirit...

So do men SPEAK AGAINST the Word of God?
Do Churches TEACH the Word of God is NOT TRUE? Absolutely.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God.....
Doth not commit sin...
Cannot sin....
Because they are born of God.

All day long MEN WILL DENY that is TRUE.
WHY?

Because they do not TRUST to BELIEVE the Word of God is TRUE.

Because they are TAUGHT, what is a SIN, unto a JEW, under Jewish Law, IS ALSO A SIN UNTO THEM, who are UNDER GRACE....
Which is false.

Under Grace, removes the curse of a man under the Law. It is a curse unto the man, BECAUSE a man CAN NOT KEEP THE LAW, and WHY Jews are repeatedly asking for forgiveness of violating their Laws.

God Bless,
SBC
 
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The new covenant is with the house of Israel & Judah, but you don't exclude yourself from it, right?

I am not a Jew, nor of the house of Judah.

I am ISRAEL, (not by a Law, or by being a stock descendent of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob),
I am ISRAEL, by Promise.
I am a son of Abraham, by Promise.
I am a son of God, by His faithfulness, to convert me, for my having confessed TO Him, my believe IN Him and His Word.

Not being a Jew or a hebrew is no excuse.

I have said nothing about excuses.
I spoke specifically of Gentiles....because it should be a well known fact, Hebrews/Jews AND Gentiles have historically been separated, regarding When, What, How, they were taught.

You're either a part of God's people or you're not.

Not exactaly a newsflash. Nor was it in contention.

HOW one becomes one of Gods People, sons of God, for a man that was a Hebrew under the Law, and for a Jew Under the Law, and for any man Under Grace is taught in Scripture.

We know what sin is by reading the law.

And if you violate the law, you commit a sin, which is precisely my point.

Why claim you are Under Grace, when you make yourself Under the Law?

Paul even wrote about this to the Romans... he would not have known that coveting is a sin except for the commandment "thou shall not covet". Same for the other commandments.

You do know Paul was a Jew, right?

God Bless,
SBC
 
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And what exactly teaches you those ARE SINS?
The meanings of the Hebrew and Greek words translated "sin" in both testaments. Archery terms meaning to aim at a target and miss.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,​
So perhaps, you could reveal, WHAT has taught you, What YOU DO, TRY to DO and fail, or What YOU DO NOT DO , is a SIN.
Romans 14:23b
... whatever is not from faith is sin.

James 4:17
Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.​

Hebrews? Jews? Hebrew Law? Jewish Law?
Civil Laws? Christian Pastors? What is the basis, for your claims ?
A plain reading of scripture in the original languages.
 
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I believe there are NO TRICKS, when the Holy Spirit INDWELLS in a person.
I believe HIS POWER KEEPS a man from EVER AGAIN SINNING.
So you think a true born again Christian can always hear HIS voice and know exactly what to do in every situation? And the ALWAYS do that? James wrote this to Spirit indwelt New Covenant Believers:

James 1:14
But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.​

And this:

James 5:16
Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.​

If it is impossible for a true believer to sin, then James was wasting his time writing this.
 
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Thank you for your commentary.

Sin is Sin....is not an answer to What SIN, a gentile ask the Lord to forgive.

If I ask you what is Man and your answer is
Man is Man....you have not answered the question.

God Bless,
SBC
Man in this context =mankind (humans) male and female .
I thought I did answer your question
see ya
 
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Thanks for the sermon ~
But the question was, what sins does a Gentile ask the Lord to forgive.

God Bless,
SBC
And my answer was all of them as sin is sin. Even among the pagans murder and theft would have be against their laws. How did they know such things were wrong? Once the light of the gospel message was known to them they had no excuse to continue to sin as God was no longer leaving their sin unpunished. AS I quoted PAUL. Have you read about the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah? They were judged by their own sin.

God commanded all people to repentance as he was no longer willing to overlook or leave their sin unpunished. I am sure you read about the wrath of God.

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with mena 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 
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When a Gentile calls on the Lords Name
TO REPENT of his SINS....

SPECIFICALLY ...
What SINS, is the Gentile asking the Lord to Forgive?

God Bless,
SBC
ERROR: The term "call on the LORD" can only be done by those already in Covenant with God (born-again, saved), and it means to worship.
And THE ONLY WORSHIP God accepts is the worship anointed by Christ ONLY.

Everything else, the prayers, the songs, poems, the great artistry, and builder of monuments, and all the deeds of the non-elect is SIN to God.
 
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