what was the light on the first day?

DamianWarS said:

Gen 1:3-5
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

So what was the light?

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We must remember that nothing created existed with God. Proof of this is found in Genesis 1:31 where God looked at everything that He had made a saw that it was good; and, on the seventh day it said God rested from all His work which He had made (2:1-3). That being said two questions arise:

1) How did God create everything from nothing?
2) How did God create non-gods if like begets like?

These questions may be answered after answering the question 'How does God see?'
The answer to the last question would be that God has eyes and, as we know by nature sight is gained by light entering the eyes: and this would mean that God is Light. Therefore when it comes to creating things God has shown us that when white light hits a clear prism that all the colors are revealed: thus God created the heavens as this clear prism for His Light to pass through. And we see that God also spoke things into existence, therefore God's creative act is broken into two steps:

1) Word.
2) Light.

The word defines what we know and the light shows us what we see. If this were not true then why would other believers make such powerful statements about God being Light and clothing Himself with it?

"Who coverest Thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:"
-Psalms 104:2

"He revealeth the deep and secret things: He knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him."
-Daniel 2:22

"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is Light, and in Him is no darkness at all."
-1 John 1:5

We see that David, Daniel, and John were not making poetical statements. We even see from the words of Jesus that He understood this scientific fact:

"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"
-Matthew 6:22-23

"The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light."
-Luke 11:33-36

And John makes it clear that Jesus is the Word of God which He spoke through to create all things:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."
-John 1:1-5

And lastly we see from John again that God is Light:

"And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the Light thereof."
-Revelation 21:23

In conclusion we see that all of the apostles, Jesus, and the prophets knew that God is Light based on their understanding of Genesis 1:1-5.

Agree.. it doesn't say. I wonder what Christ has to say about this

Blade said:

Agree.. it doesn't say. I wonder what Christ has to say about this

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Just because something is not directly said all the time does not mean that it is never spoken on. For example the first ten words of Genesis 1:1:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Although not directly stated God created three things we know of in physics:

1) Time (In the beginning).
2) Space (the heavens).
3) Matter (the earth).

As believers we can't be lazy with the word of God by not engaging it. Jesus said many things but, how many of us actually take the time to study what He says? In His words:

"Those who have ears to hear let them hear."

DamianWarS said:

Gen 1:3-5
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

So what was the light?

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Genesis takes pain to show Gods hand was in every aspect of creation; God created. Thats the importance, God created, not the timeline which produces endless debates that profit no one. I don't know how old the world or the universe are but I do believe life on earth is young and God created such life and formed the environment in which such life can safely exist.

In the beginning you had water not ice. Space is very cold -454.81 Fahrenheit so how can you have water without a heat source such as our Sun?

2 peter
But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.

Blade said:

Agree.. it doesn't say. I wonder what Christ has to say about this

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He touched on Genesis for a legal ruling about the lawfulness of divorce.
"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'

Nobody knows. Its all guesswork!

Goatee said:

Nobody knows. Its all guesswork!

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Or a endless debate. Nobody is old enough to know as a witness. Not man anyway.

I agreed with your post. Good going! You probably seen this too but I wanted to add. The trinity is in there a bit farther down


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

In the beginning= Jesus (Word)

God = Father

Spirit of God = Holy Spirit

Eloy Craft said:

I agreed with your post. Good going! You probably seen this too but I wanted to add. The trinity is in there a bit farther down


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

In the beginning= Jesus (Word)

God = Father

Spirit of God = Holy Spirit

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Jesus is a living being and not just a word. According to Jesus's own teaching it was the Father living in Him teaching Him what to state and how to state things and Jesus spoke all that the Father command him to speak. And Jesus knew the Fathers command lead to eternal life.
Hebrews=>In these last days God has spoken to us by His Son.

Rev 1:1The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

So Jesus is the word of the "Father"(God)

About the SON not just a word and the beginning of creation is that beginning found in Genesis in regard to hebrews. The creation. And nothing was set in place in heaven without Him. The invisible. The exception would be the Father. The One He calls His God and our God.

He also says, "In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

Randy777 said:

Genesis takes pain to show Gods hand was in every aspect of creation; God created. Thats the importance, God created, not the timeline which produces endless debates that profit no one. I don't know how old the world or the universe are but I do believe life on earth is young and God created such life and formed the environment in which such life can safely exist.

In the beginning you had water not ice. Space is very cold -454.81 Fahrenheit so how can you have water without a heat source such as our Sun?

2 peter
But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.

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You're going off topic now. The man posed a valid question, which needs to be taken seriously. Not everything in the Word of God is given to us easily: many times it requires tough work and many Odin's to acquire the information straight from the Bible.

The point of The Creation Week is God demonstrating to us that He is able to create things out of nothing, and to expose our own ignorance of the origins of the world.

God being the Creator and the Light should be proof enough that He made all things. It is important to understand that while light gives us the for of an image: it dies not define whether the image's characteristics (e.g. wet, dry, hot, cold, small, large, etc.): It is the Word which gives the image definition: and it is our senses which inform us that we are interacting with something; while the mind interprets what comes through the senses.

Goatee said:

Nobody knows. Its all guesswork!

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Randy777 said:

Or a endless debate. Nobody is old enough to know as a witness. Not man anyway.

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You two should really meditate on the words of Moses and king Solomon:

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law."
-Deuteronomy 29:29

"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."
-Proverbs 25:2

Everything written in the Bible contains what we need to know, it just effort at times to find certain answers to our questions: and God did this for our benefit that we might receive honour and glorify Him.

YHWH_will_uplift said:

You're going off topic now. The man posed a valid question, which needs to be taken seriously. Not everything in the Word of God is given to us easily: many times it requires tough work and many Odin's to acquire the information straight from the Bible.

The point of The Creation Week is God demonstrating to us that He is able to create things out of nothing, and to expose our own ignorance of the origins of the world.

God being the Creator and the Light should be proof enough that He made all things. It is important to understand that while light gives us the for of an image: it dies not define whether the image's characteristics (e.g. wet, dry, hot, cold, small, large, etc.): It is the Word which gives the image definition: and it is our senses which inform us that we are interacting with something; while the mind interprets what comes through the senses.





You two should really meditate on the words of Moses and king Solomon:

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law."
-Deuteronomy 29:29

"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."
-Proverbs 25:2

Everything written in the Bible contains what we need to know, it just effort at times to find certain answers to our questions: and God did this for our benefit that we might receive honour and glorify Him.

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The importance is God created all things and all things were created by His command and by His will and what God created He created through Jesus.

The importance is not found in a highly debatable timeline of creation

DamianWarS said:

So we should not talk about it is what you're saying? The discussion of if the creation account should be taken literal or if it can be understand in a non-literal context is worthwhile and understanding inconsistencies or aspects that are paradoxal may be hints on how to approach the passage.

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I'm just pointing out that we must accept the fact that we cannot and are not meant to be able to understand everything. We can discuss it but we must believe it in faith. Physical evidence exists of course, butnwe must believe it in faith because we believe God is holy and faithful.

Randy777 said:

The importance is God created all things and all things were created by His command and by His will and what God created He created through Jesus.

The importance is not found in a highly debatable timeline of creation

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The OP is not discussing the timeline of the world though: he is asking an honest an valid question about scripture. It's not fair to want to immediately dismiss a person's inquiries because of our own fears or insecurities about certain topics on the Word of God. Our words are not the end of the matter but, it is God's words which end the matter if debate:

"For ever, O YHWH, thy word is settled in heaven."
-Psalms 119:89

DamianWarS said:

Gen 1:3-5
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

So what was the light?

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Jesus Christ.

DamianWarS said:

Gen 1:3-5
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

So what was the light?

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The light is simply the light and its properties, which we still not understand fully. i.e. light is both a wave and practicle, how could that be? and yet that is how God created light, such amazing phonemna.

DamianWarS said:

was the Word created?

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No, but when God deemed that the Light should come into the world, he came and it was good.