It’s Time to Bomb North Korea

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Hon, I may ave just been saved, but I know that those who live by the sword die by the sword.

My friend Purity Clarity Parkes ‘Ri’ came up somfin wise.
“When one fights fire with fire in the physical world, one would naturally start a much larger fire that does more harm than good. I believe that Jesus came to save people from hell, so who are we to strip them of that right? War is a distraction and a form of ‘Legal’ murder, the latter being condemned in the Ten Commandments and Jesus Christ. And frankly, if the LORD commands me, I must follow HIS orders.

Only in defence for another person will I ever even considering killing someone. Peach, my dear, the only reason why I joined the Christian Underground was to save people’s lives in both Spirit and Body. Life must be defended, as it was the first gift of God every presented to you.

If God tells you to arm yourself and rescue people from a dictator’s clutches, I will not stop you. However, if you dare try to march into any place with the intent of killing for the sake of revenge or anticipated self-defence, I will not stop myself from defending them. Enough people have died already.

Does that answer your question, dear?”
Girl sure is quiet, but MAN can she talk when she’s got the fire!
Hon, if God’s tellin ya to sabotage the North Korean nuclear weapon stuff, go fer it. But doan plumb kill people jus caus they ‘might’ kill ya. Find solid evidence that their gonna kill ya, then try armed assault.
But hon, keep in mind what God’s tellin ya.

First I am so glad you are in the family sister and that you are saved by the blood of Jesus. The subject of war is separate from that of murder. Please read this helpful link on the issue:

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/war-Bible.html
 
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In post 293 I addressed this same statement by you. Yes we were the only country to use a nuclear missile. But you forgot in what context we used it in, we used on Japan that sided with Hitler in WW2. Hitler was trying to wipe out the Jews, to take over and enslave anyone with different views then his own. When Japan sided with Hitler and attacked the US in Pearl Harbor only then did we use a nuclear weapon. If nuclear war was ever necessary it was during WW2. So that's not paranoia good try.



It ended the War.
 
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If management is deliberately making it impossible for me to post my opinions (which I express in my MEMEs) then would be courteous of management to inform me of that .... and/or just ban me altogether if my opinions are just too 'beyond the pale' in their humble opinion


Pope led Globalist created this Korean conflict in order to have someone else to blame for the nuke explosion(s) the Globalist will cause
 
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President Trump warned during his first State of the Union address that North Korea could soon be able to strike the United States with a nuclear weapon.

"No regime has oppressed its own citizens more totally or brutally than the cruel dictatorship in North Korea," Trump said Tuesday. "North Korea's reckless pursuit of nuclear missiles could very soon threaten our homeland. We are waging a campaign of maximum pressure to prevent that from ever happening."

"Past experience has taught us that complacency and concessions only invite aggression and provocation," Trump said. "I will not repeat the mistakes of past administrations that got us into this very dangerous position."

Trump: North Korea 'could very soon threaten our homeland'

North Korean officials desperate to feed Kim Jong Un’s hungry army are ransacking the homes of drought-stricken farmers to collect every last grain of food inside, according to a report that highlights rising tensions between the regime and the public.

North Korean officials ransacking farmers' homes to find food for Kim's hungry army, report says

North Korea is stepping up its execution of top political officers to prevent the regime from deteriorating under immense pressure caused by international sanctions, a U.S. general said after recent reports suggested that a key member of Kim Jong Un’s inner circle was reported executed by death squad.

North Korea increasing executions of top political officers amid sanctions strain, US general says

(Reuters) - North Korea has canceled a joint cultural performance with South Korea scheduled for Feb. 4 blaming South Korean media for encouraging "insulting" public sentiment regarding the North, South Korea's unification ministry said on Monday.

North Korea cancels joint performance with South Korea, blames South m

The United States on Wednesday slapped sanctions on six North Korean ships, 16 individuals and nine companies that it said had facilitated Pyongyang's weapons programs in a continuing effort to further isolate the regime.

The sanctions are part of a strategy by the Trump administration to pressure North Korea into abandoning its nuclear weapons and long-range missiles.

Increasingly, the administration has been turning its attention to the smuggling going on despite a round of U.N. sanctions.

U.S. imposes sanctions on North Korean ships suspected of smuggling goods

When Senator Tammy Duckworth returned from a recent trip to South Korea and Japan, she brought back a sobering message: “Americans simply are not in touch with just how close we are to war on the Korean peninsula.” In a speech at Georgetown University, she laid out the U.S. military maneuvers over the past several months—including a nuclear-powered submarine heading to South Korea, the movement of three aircraft carriers to the Western Pacific, and the Army testing out“mobilization centers” for deploying troops and training soldiers to fight in tunnels like those beneath North Korea—that inform this worry. In an interview with me, she said the U.S. military seems to be operating with the attitude that a conflict “‘will probably happen, and we better be ready to go.’”

'The Military Has Seen the Writing on the Wall'

President Donald Trump's national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, also flatly rejected the clearest path to peace by saying the US would never accept a nuclear-armed North Korea. He recommitted the US to using force if necessary.

"We're not committed to a peaceful resolution - we're committed to a resolution," McMaster told the BBC. "We have to be prepared, if necessary, to compel the denuclearization of North Korea without the cooperation of that regime."

The US and China are preparing for all hell to break loose in North Korea
 
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Trump's rhetoric just seems like Bush's rhetoric from 2001. Emphasize the evil and brutality of your enemy and the threat of nuclear weapons to drum up support for military recklessness.

There is no certainty of success if the US were to try to bomb North Korea into submission. And the threat to the US has to be more than merely a possibility, after all, we are not justified reacting violently to every potential threat, as that lacks prudence and moderation. Therefore, the idea of bombing North Korea doesn't stand up the just use of force as understood by the mainline Protestant tradition of ethics with which I am familiar. Using violence as a display of power is never justified.
 
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Trump's rhetoric just seems like Bush's rhetoric from 2001. Emphasize the evil and brutality of your enemy and the threat of nuclear weapons to drum up support for military recklessness.

There is no certainty of success if the US were to try to bomb North Korea into submission. And the threat to the US has to be more than merely a possibility, after all, we are not justified reacting violently to every potential threat, as that lacks prudence and moderation. Therefore, the idea of bombing North Korea doesn't stand up the just use of force as understood by the mainline Protestant tradition of ethics with which I am familiar. Using violence as a display of power is never justified.

First Bush was not all rhetoric as we were attacked first and we went to war shortly after. We waited till we were attacked before going to war which cost us thousands of lives. Osama Bin Laden attacked us before and used his platform to deliver speech about killing Americans. But we waited till thousands of lives were lost before we seriously went after him and his network.

Is there ever 100% certainty in war? If Kim threatens your country with nuclear war and is actively working on missiles to hit your country, when do you not take it seriously? Honestly Kim has threatened the US, UK, Australia, Israel and even their own friend China. When you have a lunatic threatening you and our allies you must take it seriously unless you want something similar to September 11th. North Korea is not only making threats but is also putting the work in to effectively launch and hit us. When do we take this threat serious? Do we wait till we are hit and thousands or more of lives are lost?
 
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I thoroughly enjoyed President Trump's speech. I was thoroughly dismayed in how the Democrats behaved. What a shame.

I did as well. Very true.

From link below:

"Why are @TheDemocrats not applauding job growth, higher wages and the drop in Latino and African-American unemployment?" pollster Frank Luntz asked in a tweet. "I thought economic success is good for everyone regardless of party."

Rep. Luis Gutierrez walked out after chants of "USA, USA!" erupted in the House chamber of the Capitol Building. After the speech, the Illinois Democrat quipped that, "whoever translated it for him from Russian did a good job."

State of the Union: Glum Democrats sit on hands, walk out and rip President Trump's call for unity

Or an article about how Nancy Pelosi acted during the speech:

Everyone Noticed Nancy Pelosi’s Stony Expression During Trump’s #SOTU
 
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I say we wait until they actually hit us. I'm really tired of being called the bad guy. If he does we can then respond ad necessary and we'll have the world's support. And we can then ask all thise who didn't want to do a premptive strike "I told you so.,". And if they never attack we can never be accused of starting a war. And all those who believed he wouldn't attack can tell us "I told you so."

I say no. I'd rather take the casualties than take blame.
 
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I say we wait until they actually hit us. I'm really tired of being called the bad guy. If he does we can then respond ad necessary and we'll have the world's support. And we can then ask all thise who didn't want to do a premptive strike "I told you so.,". And if they never attack we can never be accused of starting a war. And all those who believed he wouldn't attack can tell us "I told you so."

I say no. I'd rather take the casualties than take blame.

At least you are being more honest then some of the others who replied on this thread. I feel the casualties that may range in the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands if not higher is worse then just mere blame of starting a war to prevent this from ever happening. But I do respect your opinion and like the honesty.
 
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I say we wait until they actually hit us. I'm really tired of being called the bad guy. If he does we can then respond ad necessary and we'll have the world's support. And we can then ask all thise who didn't want to do a premptive strike "I told you so.,". And if they never attack we can never be accused of starting a war. And all those who believed he wouldn't attack can tell us "I told you so."

I say no. I'd rather take the casualties than take blame.

As you've described is how I think it will go down. America will take a hit, and respond accordingly. 9-11 all over again. "I told you so" will come afterwards, and "we should have done something to prevent" or "we could have prevented". It's a no win situation in reality.
 
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As you've described is how I think it will go down. America will take a hit, and respond accordingly. 9-11 all over again. "I told you so" will come afterwards, and "we should have done something to prevent" or "we could have prevented". It's a no win situation in reality.

Sadly I think you are right that we will have to be hit and loose many Americans lives before we take this threat seriously. The only way around this is to do a limited pre-emptive strike to defend our nation from a possible nuclear strike. But we would then take a verbal hit from us taking the blame for the attack itself. Either way it's a no win situation. But I rather save lives then do nothing because of taking some heat. That's just my thoughts on this situation.
 
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Sadly I think you are right that we will have to be hit and loose many Americans lives before we take this threat seriously. The only way around this is to do a limited pre-emptive strike to defend our nation from a possible nuclear strike. But we would then take a verbal hit from us taking the blame for the attack itself. Either way it's a no win situation. But I rather save lives then do nothing because of taking some heat. That's just my thoughts on this situation.

I agree it's worth being demonized to save lives, public perception isn't more important than doing what's right. But sadly we have these people that are caught up in self-image and protecting it at any cost. I hope the people calling it more bluffing are right, and I hope our intelligence stays on top of the matter.
 
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"It's a no win situation in reality."

Exactly. And our adversaries know that. Which is why they are exploiting it.
This is undoubtedly the most difficult foreign policy issue for the USA over the last 50-60 years. No easy options, only painful consequences.

We should all be praying. A lot.
 
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I agree it's worth being demonized to save lives, public perception isn't more important than doing what's right. But sadly we have these people that are caught up in self-image and protecting it at any cost. I hope the people calling it more bluffing are right, and I hope our intelligence stays on top of the matter.

100% agree. In the end we must care more about American lives then our image. Launching a strike can save countless lives.
 
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"It's a no win situation in reality."

Exactly. And our adversaries know that. Which is why they are exploiting it.
This is undoubtedly the most difficult foreign policy issue for the USA over the last 50-60 years. No easy options, only painful consequences.

We should all be praying. A lot.

We can win the nuclear weapons situation with force by a controlled pre-emptive strike but we will take a verbal hit with our self-image as that's what we were talking about a no win situation. We should care more about the lives of our citizens more then what people want to say about us.

We should be praying and getting ready to take action. We shouldn't wait till many American lives are lost. So yes pray but we should also be getting ready to take action.
 
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First Bush was not all rhetoric as we were attacked first and we went to war shortly after. We waited till we were attacked before going to war which cost us thousands of lives. Osama Bin Laden attacked us before and used his platform to deliver speech about killing Americans.

Bush attacked Iraq only a few months after September 11th. Iraq did not attack the US. It was attacked on the mere suspicion of weapons of mass destruction, a story that later turned out to be the result of confabulation. A fancy way to say, somebody lied.

And the war in Afghanistan is still without resolution. Some people even at the time did not think causing a war in one of the poorest countries of the world was really justifiable, no matter who attacked us. The collateral damage and chaos caused by war can render violence unjustified if there is no sense of proportionality to the violence suffered.
 
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I did as well. Very true.

From link below:

"Why are @TheDemocrats not applauding job growth, higher wages and the drop in Latino and African-American unemployment?" pollster Frank Luntz asked in a tweet. "I thought economic success is good for everyone regardless of party."

Rep. Luis Gutierrez walked out after chants of "USA, USA!" erupted in the House chamber of the Capitol Building. After the speech, the Illinois Democrat quipped that, "whoever translated it for him from Russian did a good job."

State of the Union: Glum Democrats sit on hands, walk out and rip President Trump's call for unity

Or an article about how Nancy Pelosi acted during the speech:

Everyone Noticed Nancy Pelosi’s Stony Expression During Trump’s #SOTU


Our government is in dire straits whenever a party hates the leader of the USA so much that they put that hate before the welfare of the citizens. I pray daily for the USA.
 
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