Daniel 9:24-25 Seventy Weeks, A Future Literal 490 Day Period

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Daniel 9:24-25 clearly states "seventy weeks" if it was intended to be different, it would be written "four hundred and ninety years"

I'm fully aware of the day/year teaching, it's error.

Daniel 10:2-3 Daniel mourned and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

This "seventy weeks" or 490 day period is future, and will start at Israel/Judaism's command to "Restore & Build" Jerusalem, that sees "Seven Weeks" 49 literal days of planning/preparation.

"Three Score and Two Weeks" or 434 literal days, will see the actual building take place, wall/street, in troubled time this will take place.

Armies will surround Jerusalem and will stop this building project, "Messiah Cut Off" as Israel/Judaism will be building for/unto their awaited upon, prophesied Messiah.

There will be a renewed sacrifice I believe, that the man of sin/Antichrist will stop. A covenant of peace will be made, and the sacrifice will stop, as the abomination takes place in the midst of this future final 70th week.

I believe this building project will be in relationship to a new temple, and the conflict will arise with the Muslim world protecting their mosque at the Dome of the rock, where Jews desire to build their temple currently.

I believe Micah 7 clearly shows this in a parallel teaching.

Verses 10-12 The world armies are gathered, Jerusalem trodden, the building is stopped.

Verses 14-16 The woman of Revelation 12:6 is fed in the wilderness manna from heaven during the tribulation, as in the Exodus from Egypt, as the world watches in astonishment.

I believe the future renewed animal sacrifice, in abomination to the shed blood of Jesus Christ is seen in Isaiah 66:3-4

That's what I believe scripture teaches of "Seventy Literal Weeks" as seen in Daniel 9:24-25

Keep an eye on Jerusalem, when the building starts, you know the world armies and "Man Of Sin/Antichrist" aren't far behind.

Jesus Christ Is Lord

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Daniel 9:24-25 clearly states "seventy weeks" if it was intended to be different, it would be written "four hundred and ninety years"

I'm fully aware of the weeks/years teaching, it's error.

Daniel 10:2-3 Daniel mourned and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

This "seventy weeks" 490 day period is future, and will start at Israel/Judaism's command to "Restore & Build" Jerusalem, that sees "Seven Weeks" 49 literal days of planning/preparation.

"Three Score and Two Weeks" or 434 literal days, will see the actual building take place, wall/street, in troubled time this will take place.

Armies will surround Jerusalem and will stop this building project, "Messiah Cut Off" as Israel/Judaism will be building for/unto their awaited upon, prophesied Messiah.

There will be a renewed sacrifice I believe, that the man of sin/Antichrist will stop. A covenant of peace will be made, and the sacrifice will stop, as the abomination takes place in the midst of this future final 70th week.

I believe this building project will be in relationship to a new temple, and the conflict will arise with the Muslim world protecting their mosque at the Dome of the rock, where Jews desire to build their temple currently.

I believe Micah 7 clearly shows this in a parallel teaching.

Verses 10-12 The world armies are gathered, Jerusalem trodden, the building is stopped.

Verses 14-16 The woman of Revelation 12:6 is fed in the wilderness as in the Exodus, manna from heaven, during the tribulation, as in the Exodus from Egypt.

I believe the future renewed animal sacrifice, in abomination to the shed blood of Jesus Christ is seen in Isaiah 66:3-4

That's what I believe scripture teaches of "Seventy Literal Weeks" as seen in Daniel 9:24-25

Keep an eye on Jerusalem, when the building starts, you know the world armies and "Man Of Sin/Antichrist" aren't far behind.

Jesus Christ Is Lord

Truth7t7

Seeing as it was 483 years to the day that the Lord rode a donkey through Jerusalem, with one more week left remaining at the end of time, you need to rethink your theory. It is flawed seeing as history proved otherwise, and Jesus said so.

41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

5 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
 
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Daniel 9:24-25 clearly states "seventy weeks" if it was intended to be different, it would be written "four hundred and ninety years"

I'm fully aware of the weeks/years teaching, it's error.

Daniel 10:2-3 Daniel mourned and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

This "seventy weeks" 490 day period is future, and will start at Israel/Judaism's command to "Restore & Build" Jerusalem, that sees "Seven Weeks" 49 literal days of planning/preparation.

"Three Score and Two Weeks" or 434 literal days, will see the actual building take place, wall/street, in troubled time this will take place.

Armies will surround Jerusalem and will stop this building project, "Messiah Cut Off" as Israel/Judaism will be building for/unto their awaited upon, prophesied Messiah.

There will be a renewed sacrifice I believe, that the man of sin/Antichrist will stop. A covenant of peace will be made, and the sacrifice will stop, as the abomination takes place in the midst of this future final 70th week.

I believe this building project will be in relationship to a new temple, and the conflict will arise with the Muslim world protecting their mosque at the Dome of the rock, where Jews desire to build their temple currently.

I believe Micah 7 clearly shows this in a parallel teaching.

Verses 10-12 The world armies are gathered, Jerusalem trodden, the building is stopped.

Verses 14-16 The woman of Revelation 12:6 is fed in the wilderness as in the Exodus, manna from heaven, during the tribulation, as in the Exodus from Egypt.

I believe the future renewed animal sacrifice, in abomination to the shed blood of Jesus Christ is seen in Isaiah 66:3-4

That's what I believe scripture teaches of "Seventy Literal Weeks" as seen in Daniel 9:24-25

Keep an eye on Jerusalem, when the building starts, you know the world armies and "Man Of Sin/Antichrist" aren't far behind.

Jesus Christ Is Lord

Truth7t7

Daniel 9
24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Those of the dispensational persuasion would have us believe that the accomplishments enumerated in Daniel 9:24 are not yet in fact accomplishments at all, but remain unfulfilled and delayed, and will only become reality at some indeterminate time in the future, when a millennial kingdom is established. The following assertion by Chuck Missler and others is typical:
“The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.”

Let us consult with the Apostle Peter.

2 Peter 1
19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What would have been the sources of Peter's conviction about a more sure word of prophecy?

One of them was undoubtedly this -- the Emmaus road experience with Jesus -- of which Peter, if not in fact present as the unnamed second disciple, would have been made well aware. Jesus' admonition was rather pointed:

Luke 24
25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Peter was with all of the other disciples who heard this from Jesus:

Luke 24
44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Peter would certainly have been aware of this:

Acts 13
29
And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

Given what Peter had to say, and of what he was aware; how would Peter have viewed Daniel 9:24?

Undoubtedly he would have asked the following:

From Luke 24:25, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among all that the prophets have spoken?

Unquestionably it does.

From Luke 24:27, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among what had been spoken of Christ concerning Himself?

Unquestionably it does.


Then Peter would have of necessity reached an inexorable conclusion:

According to Christ's own words in Luke 24:44, and Paul's inspired words in Acts 13:29; Christ fulfilled everything that was written of Him, which without exception included everything in Daniel 9:24; by the time of His resurrection. Through Christ's completed work at Calvary, there was nothing left undone of the enumerated accomplishments in Daniel's inspired prophecy. All were fulfilled. Nothing remained to await a future age.

It was the epitome of fulfilled spiritual reality – past, present, and for eternity.

This is how Peter would have viewed Daniel 9:24.

This is why he could declare unreservedly that we have a more sure word of prophecy.

And this is why, contrary to Bro. Missler and others, we too can recognize and claim that more sure word of prophecy, and the completion and fulfillment of “all that was written of Him” in the inspired words of Daniel 9:24.

Praise to the Lamb, and His complete and perfect accomplishments at Calvary.
 
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Seeing as it was 483 years to the day that the Lord rode a donkey through Jerusalem, with one more week left remaining at the end of time, you need to rethink your theory. It is flawed seeing as history proved otherwise, and Jesus said so.

41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

5 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Your post reflects the day/year teaching, Daniel 9:24 clearly stated "seventy weeks" 490 literal days, as this is clearly show in Daniel 10:2-3 Daniel mourned and fasted for "Thee Fiull Weeks" 21 literal days.
 
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Daniel 9
24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Those of the dispensational persuasion would have us believe that the accomplishments enumerated in Daniel 9:24 are not yet in fact accomplishments at all, but remain unfulfilled and delayed, and will only become reality at some indeterminate time in the future, when a millennial kingdom is established. The following assertion by Chuck Missler and others is typical:
“The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.”

Let us consult with the Apostle Peter.

2 Peter 1
19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What would have been the sources of Peter's conviction about a more sure word of prophecy?

One of them was undoubtedly this -- the Emmaus road experience with Jesus -- of which Peter, if not in fact present as the unnamed second disciple, would have been made well aware. Jesus' admonition was rather pointed:

Luke 24
25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Peter was with all of the other disciples who heard this from Jesus:

Luke 24
44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Peter would certainly have been aware of this:

Acts 13
29
And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

Given what Peter had to say, and of what he was aware; how would Peter have viewed Daniel 9:24?

Undoubtedly he would have asked the following:

From Luke 24:25, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among all that the prophets have spoken?

Unquestionably it does.

From Luke 24:27, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among what had been spoken of Christ concerning Himself?

Unquestionably it does.


Then Peter would have of necessity reached an inexorable conclusion:

According to Christ's own words in Luke 24:44, and Paul's inspired words in Acts 13:29; Christ fulfilled everything that was written of Him, which without exception included everything in Daniel 9:24; by the time of His resurrection. Through Christ's completed work at Calvary, there was nothing left undone of the enumerated accomplishments in Daniel's inspired prophecy. All were fulfilled. Nothing remained to await a future age.

It was the epitome of fulfilled spiritual reality – past, present, and for eternity.

This is how Peter would have viewed Daniel 9:24.

This is why he could declare unreservedly that we have a more sure word of prophecy.

And this is why, contrary to Bro. Missler and others, we too can recognize and claim that more sure word of prophecy, and the completion and fulfillment of “all that was written of Him” in the inspired words of Daniel 9:24.

Praise to the Lamb, and His complete and perfect accomplishments at Calvary.
We will disagree, the great tribulation is a future event as Matthew 24:29-31 teaches, as the second coming of Jesus takes place, immediately after this future event.

You deny the second advent is seen here, grave error in my opinion.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days"

"They shall see the Son of man coming"
 
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We will disagree, the great tribulation is a future event as Matthew 24:29-31 teaches, as the second coming of Jesus takes place, immediately after this future event.

You deny the second advent is seen here, grave error in my opinion.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days"

"They shall see the Son of man coming"
Are you sure you're replying to the right post? Daniel 9:24 has nothing to do with tribulation or Matthew 24 or the second advent. It is entirely about what Christ accomplished at Calvary.
 
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jgr, post:

Are you sure you're replying to the right post? Daniel 9:24 has nothing to do with tribulation or Matthew 24 or the second advent. It is entirely about what Christ accomplished at Calvary.

Truth7t7 Response:

Daniel 9:24-27 has everything to do with a future great tribulation and destruction of Jerusalem as seen in these verses.

Both which you believe took place in 66-70AD, as you believe Matthew 24:21 represents this tribulation in 66-70AD.

You deny the second advent seen in Matthew 24:29-31, that teaches the great trib and destruction of Jerusalem seen in Daniel 9:24-27 is a future event.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days"

"They shall see the Son of man coming"
 
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jgr, post:

Are you sure you're replying to the right post? Daniel 9:24 has nothing to do with tribulation or Matthew 24 or the second advent. It is entirely about what Christ accomplished at Calvary.

Truth7t7 Response:

Daniel 9:24-27 has everything to do with a future great tribulation and destruction of Jerusalem as seen in these verses.

Both which you believe took place in 66-70AD, as you believe Matthew 24:21 represents this tribulation in 66-70AD.

You deny the second advent seen in Matthew 24:29-31, that teaches the great tribe and destruction of Jerusalem seen in Daniel 9:24-27 is a future event.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days"

"They shall see the Son of man coming"
You'll notice that I've only dealt with Daniel 9:24. That occurred upon Jesus' death, during the decade of 30 AD.
 
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There will be a renewed sacrifice I believe, that the man of sin/Antichrist will stop. A covenant of peace will be made, and the sacrifice will stop, as the abomination takes place in the midst of this future final 70th week.
Are you saying a 7 day literal week for the 70th week?

If so, none of the other prophecies can fit into that time space.

In Revelation 13, the beast rules 42 months. How would that fit into a 7 day 70th week?
 
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You'll notice that I've only dealt with Daniel 9:24. That occurred upon Jesus' death, during the decade of 30 AD.
I dont believe Daniel 9:24 represents the cross of calvary, "everlasting righteousness" is a future event, at the second coming, when death is swallowed up in victory, in the eternal kingdom.

70 weeks are determined upon a people and city, nothing to do with fulfillment on the cross of calvary.

verses 25-27 in context are a pre-requisite of items that take place, before verse 24 is fulfilled. verses 25-27 contain the destruction of Jerusalem, Antichrist revealed, And Great Tribulation, these are future events, you believe they are fulfilled in 66-70AD.

We disagree.
 
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Aredoou saying a 7 day literal week for the 70th week?

If so, none of the other prophecies can fit into that time space.

In Revelation 13, the beast rules 42 months. How would that fit into a 7 day 70th week?
The 70th week is a literal 7 day period in which the Antichrist will be revealed, stop a literal sacrifice, at the middle of this week.

You have been taught in error Revelation 11:2 that the 1260 days of the "Two Witnesses" and Revelation 13:5 the time of the beast are different times that both account for 7 years?

They are the same time frames of a 42 month Tribulation Period, as the "Two Witnesses" stand before the Beast/ Antichrist Day for Day.

You will take note in Revelation 11, the two witnesses are raised from the street to the heavens, "The Same Hour" great earthquake, 2nd woe past, 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th trump and final judgment.

As the scripture clearly teaches, the witnesses are on earth with the Antichrist/Beast right to the final hours before the end.

When you see the building project start in Jerusalem, the time of Jerusalem being tread down, and Antichrist revealed isn't far behind.
 
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The 70th week is a literal 7 day period in which the Antichrist will be revealed, stop a literal sacrifice, at the middle of this week.

You have been taught in error Revelation 11:2 that the 1260 days of the "Two Witnesses" and Revelation 13:5 the time of the beast are different times that both account for 7 years?

They are the same time frames of a 42 month Tribulation Period, as the "Two Witnesses" stand before the Beast/ Antichrist Day for Day.

You will take note in Revelation 11, the two witnesses are raised from the street to the heavens, "The Same Hour" great earthquake, 2nd woe past, 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th trump and final judgment.

As the scripture clearly teaches, the witnesses are on earth with the Antichrist/Beast right to the final hours before the end.



When you see the the building project start in Jerusalem, the time of Jerusalem being tread down, and Antichrist revealed aren't far behind.
You did not answer how the 42 months of Revelation 13:5 would fit into your 7 day 70th week interpretation.

How does 42 months fit into 7 days?
 
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Daniel 9:24-25 clearly states "seventy weeks" if it was intended to be different, it would be written "four hundred and ninety years"

I'm fully aware of the weeks/years teaching, it's error.

Daniel 10:2-3 Daniel mourned and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

This "seventy weeks" 490 day period is future, and will start at Israel/Judaism's command to "Restore & Build" Jerusalem, that sees "Seven Weeks" 49 literal days of planning/preparation.

"Three Score and Two Weeks" or 434 literal days, will see the actual building take place, wall/street, in troubled time this will take place.

Armies will surround Jerusalem and will stop this building project, "Messiah Cut Off" as Israel/Judaism will be building for/unto their awaited upon, prophesied Messiah.

There will be a renewed sacrifice I believe, that the man of sin/Antichrist will stop. A covenant of peace will be made, and the sacrifice will stop, as the abomination takes place in the midst of this future final 70th week.

I believe this building project will be in relationship to a new temple, and the conflict will arise with the Muslim world protecting their mosque at the Dome of the rock, where Jews desire to build their temple currently.

I believe Micah 7 clearly shows this in a parallel teaching.

Verses 10-12 The world armies are gathered, Jerusalem trodden, the building is stopped.

Verses 14-16 The woman of Revelation 12:6 is fed in the wilderness as in the Exodus, manna from heaven, during the tribulation, as in the Exodus from Egypt.

I believe the future renewed animal sacrifice, in abomination to the shed blood of Jesus Christ is seen in Isaiah 66:3-4

That's what I believe scripture teaches of "Seventy Literal Weeks" as seen in Daniel 9:24-25

Keep an eye on Jerusalem, when the building starts, you know the world armies and "Man Of Sin/Antichrist" aren't far behind.

Jesus Christ Is Lord

Truth7t7


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.




Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


Daniel chapter 9 is about the New Covenant Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant in His Blood.

The New Covenant was promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13.

Remember that Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared.

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Check the soles of your boots again.
There seems to be some of Hal Lindsay's stuff still stuck in the cleats...


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Douggg:

you did not answer how the 42 months of Revelation 13:5 would fit into your 7 day 70th week interpretation.

How does 42 months fit into 7 days?

(The 70 weeks & 42 month tribulation explained.)

7 literal weeks to bring forth the announcement and planning to build the walls and street in Jerusalem.

62 weeks of building, as the building stops when the worlds armies surround Jerusalem.

70th week the antichrist is revealed, the sacrifice is stopped, peace covenant made.

The 42 month tribulation now starts, as the beast and "two witnesses" stand in Jerusalem before the world, as Moses and Aaron stood before Pharaoh of Egypt.

Hope that helps.
 
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I dont believe Daniel 9:24 represents the cross of calvary, "everlasting righteousness" is a future event, at the second coming, when death is swallowed up in victory, in the eternal kingdom.

70 weeks are determined upon a people and city, nothing to do with fulfillment on the cross of calvary.

verses 25-27 in context are a prerequisite of items that take place, before verse 24 is fulfilled. verses 25-27 contain the destruction of Jerusalem, Antichrist revealed, And Great Tribulation., these are future events unfulfilled to meet this prerequisite

Possibly you believe they are fulfilled in 66-70AD destruction of Jerusalem?

Possibly we disagree on the timing of these prerequisites.
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.




Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


Daniel chapter 9 is about the New Covenant Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant in His Blood.

The New Covenant was promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 3131-34, and is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13.

Remember that Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared.

...............................................................
Check the soles of your boots again.
There seems to be some of Hal Lindsay's stuff still stuck in the cleats...


.
 
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The 70 weeks & 42 month tribulation explained.

7 literal weeks to bring forth the announcement and planning to build the walls and street in Jerusalem.

62 weeks of building, as the building stops when the worlds armies surround Jerusalem.

70th week the antichrist is revealed, the sacrifice is stopped, peace covenant made.

The 42 month tribulation now starts, as the beast and "two witnesses" stand before the world, as Moses and Aaron stood before Pharaoh of Egypt.

Hope that helps.
It makes no sense.

There are a total of 490 years. If you want to make it 490 days - then everything has to fit within the 490 days.

Here is the synopsis to your interpretation the best I can understand it.

day 1......49 days.....day49 announcement.............434 days building......armies surround Jerusalem........day 483 peace covenant made...... day 486.5 sacrifices stopped, Antichrist revealed......day 490

What happens on day 490? Then, 42 months of the beast? That makes no sense.

You have the 42 months of the beast extend far beyond the 490 days. The prophecy is everlasting righteousness is brought in by the end of the 490 whether it be years or whether it be days. The 490 is the conclusion.

You do not have the 490 as the conclusion - but have the conclusion 1260 days beyond what is supposed to be the conclusion.
 
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(The 70 weeks & 42 month tribulation explained.)

7 literal weeks to bring forth the announcement and planning to build the walls and street in Jerusalem.

62 weeks of building, as the building stops when the worlds armies surround Jerusalem.

70th week the antichrist is revealed, the sacrifice is stopped, peace covenant made.

The 42 month tribulation now starts, as the beast and "two witnesses" stand in Jerusalem before the world, as Moses and Aaron stood before Pharaoh of Egypt.

Hope that helps.

I think that you are really shooting yourself in the foot by insisting that a deliberately ambiguous passage means exactly what you say it means. Especially when in Daniel 9:27, it is still using 'shabua'/ 'week' in a years sense and Rev 13's 42 months fits pretty well with this years understanding.

That said, I agree with you that it does mean a literal 490 days period, but I think it means 490 years also.

In the context of the 2 witnesses, AC, FP:

It takes 70 'weeks'/ 490 days to 'finish the transgression'. First comes the 1260 days period, then after this is the 490 days period. (It is possible that this is the time sequence of Daniel 8's 2300 days: 5 months of Revelation's 5th Trumpet, + 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour (6th Trumpet war) + 1260 days (2nd woe) + 3.5 days lying dead + 490 days = 2300 days.)

the 1260 days period is the 'transgression'. then the 490 days.

Daniel 9:
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ For half of the ‘seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.​

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/9.htm

(although it is often translated as 'the middle of the seven', the actual words are 'chatsi' H2677 http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2677.htm of the 'shabua' ('7'). Chatsi means 'half' & 'middle' and is overwhelmingly translated as 'half' (76 times) vs. 'middle' (6 times).

another ambiguity is 'the anointed one shall be cut off'. 'Cut off' is 'Karath' which also can mean 'covenanted'. http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3772.htm

so, getting back to the above, 1st the transgression occurs (42 months - the 1st half OR the 2nd half), then the 490 days occurs 'to finish the transgression'. At the end of 69 weeks, the anointed one (messiah) is 'covenanted' and he is the one that will stop the sacrifices 3.5 days later after being anointed. (when it says 'the end is poured out on him', this is a double entendre referring to the bowls of wrath poured out onto the wicked but also to the fact that the messiah is 'anointed' (which means oil is poured onto him, the definition of anointing).

the problem of course is that the antichrist and/or false prophet will conform in some manner to this pattern, ie the false prophet will stop the sacrifices that the antichrist started.
 
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I dont believe Daniel 9:24 represents the cross of calvary, "everlasting righteousness" is a future event, at the second coming, when death is swallowed up in victory, in the eternal kingdom.

70 weeks are determined upon a people and city, nothing to do with fulfillment on the cross of calvary.

verses 25-27 in context are a prerequisite of items that take place, before verse 24 is fulfilled. verses 25-27 contain the destruction of Jerusalem, Antichrist revealed, And Great Tribulation., these are future events unfulfilled to meet this prerequisite

Possibly you believe they are fulfilled in 66-70AD destruction of Jerusalem?

Possibly we disagree on the timing of these prerequisites.

I have heard some wild theories about Daniel chapter 9 on this forum, but yours is a new one.

Can you show us at least one Bible scholar who agrees with your interpretation of the passage?


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