Open Heart
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1. This is your LAST CHANCE to reply to my point about ALL 613 commandments being subject to the "do not add or subtract from these." I even provided you with the two verses IN CONTEXT so that there was no question about it. If you don't reply to this directly in your NEXT POST, I will not reply to you.Hello OH, nice to see you again my friend. Some comments for your consideration below.
Really? Where did you answer any of my posts and scriptures in them. You have only stated you disagree with them. This is not adressing anything as you have not responded to the scriptures, questions and content of the post sent to you. I am referring to post # 801; post # 817 and post # 818 If you have not responded to these posts and all the scriptures and questions in them how have you adressed them? Simply saying you do not agree with them does not adress the posts and the scriptures presented in them that disagree with you.
And your point here is?
And who is disagreeing this this? This is exactly what I have been sharing . Now you agree that this is the purpose of God's LAW (10 Commandments) in the New Testament that they give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is then you must agree that God's 4th Commandment is one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8:11) and the NEW Testament teaches that if we break ANY ONE of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God in SIN.
James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Yes indeed but the 10 Commandments were the ONLY LAWS that were made by GOD himself written with God's own finger on two tables of stone. God commanded to be kept separated from the book of Moses in the ARK of the Covenant and God's 10 Commandments were the ONLY LAWS that were spoken by God himself to ALL of his people.
As you have rightly pointed out God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27) just like all of the other 10 Commandments if we KNOWINGLY break anyone of them we comit SIN. It is SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom.
2. When *I* say the LAW, I am referring to all 613. Don't make the mistake of assuming I mean the 10.
3. The laws of the Torah were given to Israel, not the world. Humanity does have its own universal laws. These universal laws are contained in the Torah, but the Torah has extra laws that are not binding on all of humanity. Keeping the Sabbath, because it recalls God bringing Israel out of Egypt, is one of those laws which is for Israel only. (It certainly doesn't hurt for a Gentile to keep this law out of love -- indeed I believe you will be blessed for doing so. I just am saying there is no obligation, it will not give you salvation.)
4. Remember that although God wrote the first draft on the tablets, it was Moses who wrote the second draft, which is the 10 commandments. We assume it is the same, but really we don't know for sure.
5. God dictated the rest of the 613 -- he SPOKE THEM. They are every bit as much God's laws as the 10. Moses' laws are the Oral Torah, the case law that built up when Moses and the elders ruled on practical applications of the law.
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