Beaten up by little sister. Does that mean she's stronger?

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I would move out asap. The punishment your parents employed in response to your sister choking you shows a lack of care in my opinion.

I'm glad I have all brothers so I can wrestle with them and actually fight back if they mess with me :D

I feel for you because you cant hit a girl, especially a young one thats your sister, but I defintely would have took the belt out on her.
I defintely empathize with men in some ways because its almost as if women can just do or say anything and theyre believed,coddled and protected...theres not much accountability.

I would just try to stay with a friend or move out...if you think this can be resolved then talk with your parents...
 
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This is a really bad idea. They will not take an eleven year old on her big brother's say-so. In some jurisdictions, in a domestic dispute they have to take someone in, and it could just as easily be you. You will lose any tiny remnants of trust you may have with her. And really bad things can happen to an eleven year old if they would incarcerate her. This is a vulnerable child, not - - what? Your worst enemy's dog? I am sorry I am being so adamant but there is something going on with this child and "Lock her up" is not the answer.
My stepdaughter's.mother was having problems with her at eleven and the police would not do anything. You can't just dump a little kid off at juvy.
I was thinking that too.

In a domestic dispute someone gets arrested. Just might be the 21 yo.
 
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I'm a 21 year old man, my 11 year old sister was trying to sneak out of the house at like 8pm. I stopped her but she was really insistent on going (our parents weren't home). I took her phone from her and told her she wasn't going anywhere before I call our parents.

She was really mad, she was in tears and was screaming at me. Then she starts punching and kicking me trying to get her phone back. One of the punches lands hard in my stomach and I get winded. The next thing I know she's dragged me to the ground and she's got her thighs wrapped around my neck squeezing really hard. I'm unable to remove her legs and can't breathe so I give her the phone back and submit.

She refuses to let go, she tells me to give me my phone. I do this, then she goes to the bathroom, throws my phone in the toilet and flushes it.

I go up to her and (I'm not proud of this) hit her. She again manages to floor me and wrap her thighs around my neck and I'm just desperately tapping on her legs indicating submission but she doesn't let go and I pass out.

My parents have grounded her and she has to pay for my new phone.

How do I regain control over her? She's an annoying little SJW who constantly wears "girl power" shirts. I'm scared than she's going to think she's stronger than me? Even though she caught me off-guard both times and it was fluky.

I'm a little insecure about my strength, but the weakest man is still stronger than 99% of women right? And definitely stronger than a child?

This is the muscle difference between us. Just to say that I'm tensing and she's not, but it doesn't matter since I still think I have the superior muscle definition untensed. Not to mention that I'm a guy too.

Her: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet

We were measured a while ago, she had 14 inch calves and 20 inch thighs. I had 9.5 inch calves and 15 inch thighs so I'm a little insecure about that too but I'm pretty sure she's just got fatty legs.
The main thing I notice with this is the size of your thighs. 15 inches? Thats smaller than my biceps which are not huge. I would say it looks like you are even possibly malnourished. You need to exercise to build up your muscles and eat more to fuel them.

Its not unusual for brothers and sisters to fight, but for an 11 year old girl to beat up a 21 year old man is very unusual. The fact is she has bigger legs would seem to indicate she has more muscle mass which would make her stronger.

My daughter is nearly 14 and has never acted like that, partly because she knew she wouldnt get away with it. Your daughter is obviously not scared of the consequences of her actions. I have friends who's kids acted up a lot and the parents tend to be the namby pamby liberal wishy washy parents who like to let there kids be who they want and do what they want. Then they wonder why they dont listen to them and do what they want. One or two have done the whole going out and disappearing thing. They knew their phones could be tracked so turned them off. Weak parenting goes hand in hand with badly behaved kids.

And if I were you I would get myself involved in some sort of sport. Not necessarily weight training but something that would build strength. A decent diet would help as well.
 
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Ok for me somethings stand out. Your 21? How do you regain control over her? I think I look stronger than her? Again.. HOW OLD ARE YOU?

One.. shes a girl...smarter then they look (age) :) and shes your SISTER. If you control her you could lose the bond a bother and sister CAN have. Stronger?

Do you know Jesus as lord? Came died for her? Be a friend.. be her BROTHER. That helps that protects thats always there for her. And let this "stronger" thing go. That fact your stuck on that and shes 11?

And age has nothing to do with getting a lucky bunch. SHES YOUR SISTER! Grow up let it go. Want control be her brother. No matter what.. ALWAYS love and be there for her. I find it troubling your still stuck on this. :)
 
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She's a female child, I'm in charge of her


You might be responsible for her because she is a child, never because she is female.
Life does not work like that. To think that way is sexism.
I would not be surprised that she rebels with that attitude to contend with.
 
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for reals?? this thread is so funny! man needs to get swole

I highly doubt it's for real. Brand new user, story that sure does sound concocted. Calling an 11 year old a SJW.

If it is for real, well then I'd suggest that with him being 21 years of age, he look for a place of his own if he's being beat up by his 11 year old sister so much. Then the parents whole attention would be on the child.
 
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I'd just like to clear this up, there will be no police involvement whatsoever. My parents have agreed to take her to a couple of therapy sessions due to the lack of empathy. She's been raised right, we're looking into what is causing this aggression.

Also, she attacked me again. I was watching a movie by myself on the couch. My sister walked in, also sat on the couch. She wrapped her legs around my waist and squeezed, just for no reason whatsoever. I was submitting but she didn't let go for a good 5 minutes. She was reading her kindle while squeezing me like she wasn't even trying. She said not to tell our parents or she'll "make it worse".

I'm so fed up at this point, I'm starting to genuinely hate her which I know is wrong. She's just so arrogant, thinks she's so tough when all she does is spam the same old tired wrestling move which doesn't even require strength.
I hope the therapist knows that she threatened you if you tell that she was squeezing you.
 
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Immature.

Thanks I guess..., i was giving practical ideas in case this person gets choked again so they can get this 11 yr old off them and survive, fingernails can hurt and stop quite a few things when other things fail.
 
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Also, she attacked me again. I was watching a movie by myself on the couch. My sister walked in, also sat on the couch. She wrapped her legs around my waist and squeezed, just for no reason whatsoever. I was submitting but she didn't let go for a good 5 minutes. She was reading her kindle while squeezing me like she wasn't even trying. She said not to tell our parents or she'll "make it worse".

I'm so fed up at this point, I'm starting to genuinely hate her which I know is wrong. She's just so arrogant, thinks she's so tough when all she does is spam the same old tired wrestling move which doesn't even require strength.
Press down on the knees until she has to loosen her grip. Ideally though, you would get control of her ankles before she has fully locked. Then you can either lock the leg, or escape to a more advantageous position.

If you're strong enough to do a fireman's carry on her, you can take her some place she doesn't want to go. If you're not strong enough to do a fireman's carry on her, train until you are. It's equally useful for rescuing her should the house catch fire and she be passed out.
 
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I do not know those children or what was really gong on in their hearts and minds. They may have been traumatized into "walking the straight and narrow" out of terror. How can I tell? I still think the idea of incarcerating an 11 year old is detestable.

You have to assume a lot of things, actually have...faith...in a lot things. Like

1. The people running the program are competent.
2. The people who are running the program, and the people who are dealing with the children in any way aren't pedophiles, frankly, or sick in some other ways. A child is incredibly vulnerable in such a place. Many, many children have reported horrific abuse in places where they were incarcerated, and that includes full blown, nearly adult, teenagers.
3. Those who report "great success" aren't just giving THEIR opinions of what "great success" is, or really even care about their children other than trying to get them to "walk the straight and narrow."
4. Every child is the same and if one child "benefited" then all children will.

If children are acting out there is an underlying problem. It could be physical and/or emotional. I don't buy it that incarcerating them will get to the root of the problem, but can see how it would cause the problem to be suppressed.

I see no reason whatsoever to trust any such situation and would certainly never put a child in any such place.


The people running the "program" are the local Police and deserves our respect. Many of the Officers in my home town, I know personally --- they are outstanding people. The Police do keep stats on it. The positive feedback is volunteered by parents and children involved.

Here in the US, our 11 years olds in the City must grow up faster than those in the UK because here some are murdering people for the fun of it. Should an 11 who murders someone in cold blood be on parole?
 
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A parent can't incarcerate a child. There are homes where they receive counseling.

Tell that to one of my Step Sisters.

Alternative Lock-Up Program

Scared Straight Programs range from the simple isolation lock up to boot camps.

Wilderness Therapy
According to a study published by Utah State University, wilderness therapy has the capacity to help teens effectively engage behavioral issues, addiction and a number of other challenges that are common with troubled teens.

residential treatment centers

National Resources for Parents and Teens
NATSAP For Parents - For parents seeking to help troubled children, NATSAP provides placement resources to help them match the needs of their children to the services offered by appropriate organizations. The agency does this via a network of volunteers who support professionals and programs, and by providing answers to questions, information, and article resources that will help lead to the best possible placement.

Asheville Academy for Girls

On the Prison side of the issue, this is a problem
Growing Up Locked Down | Youth in Solitary Confinement in Jails and Prisons Across the United States


Jan 24, 2007 ... Nathaniel Abraham—arrested at the age of 11 and one of the youngest children in the US ever convicted as an adult for murder
 
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Bro, why on Earth do ya wanna ‘control’ ya little sis? From a younger sister’s ‘spective, ya plumb don’t want ya older bro rulin’ ya life!

If ya want respect, ya gotta say sorry for anythin’ ya may ‘ave done against her, and pray/ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. She’ll come round if ya treat her more like a friend and less like an underthing, ya dig mate?

Peach.
 
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Bro, why on Earth do ya wanna ‘control’ ya little sis? From a younger sister’s ‘spective, ya plumb don’t want ya older bro rulin’ ya life!

If ya want respect, ya gotta say sorry for anythin’ ya may ‘ave done against her, and pray/ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. She’ll come round if ya treat her more like a friend and less like an underthing, ya dig mate?

Peach.
Good evening, Peach.
I agree with your statement, however, I believe you mean ‘underling’ rather than ‘underthing’. Keep up the good work, dear. God Bless you.

Yours Sincerely~
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When dealing with any situation, one must always consider ‘what would Jesus do if He were in my place’. We know that He is never violent unless vehemently defending God under necessity.

Your sister may just be retaliating after many years of suppression. Besides, 11 years of age is statistically the starting point of puberty in the majority of girls. Being her older brother, you should try to spend quality time with her and be approachable to her. Being the second eldest in my family with younger siblings, I know both sides of the coin and I can somewhat relate to both sibling dilemmas.

Also, remember to make sure that you are not in the wrong before deeming your sister with fault. Usually, there are two sides to the story. Keep in mind what sin you struggle with most; pride, greed, vanity, lust - et cetera.

Ms Springtime and I will pray for you.
Yours Sincerely~
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Good evening, Peach.
I agree with your statement, however, I believe you mean ‘underling’ rather than ‘underthing’. Keep up the good work, dear. God Bless you.

Yours Sincerely~
~Purity Clarity Parkes.
Ah, typical Ri.
Always chasin up everybuddy who ain’t got good grammar.
 
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I'm a 21 year old man, my 11 year old sister was trying to sneak out of the house at like 8pm. I stopped her but she was really insistent on going (our parents weren't home). I took her phone from her and told her she wasn't going anywhere before I call our parents.

She was really mad, she was in tears and was screaming at me. Then she starts punching and kicking me trying to get her phone back. One of the punches lands hard in my stomach and I get winded. The next thing I know she's dragged me to the ground and she's got her thighs wrapped around my neck squeezing really hard. I'm unable to remove her legs and can't breathe so I give her the phone back and submit.

She refuses to let go, she tells me to give me my phone. I do this, then she goes to the bathroom, throws my phone in the toilet and flushes it.

I go up to her and (I'm not proud of this) hit her. She again manages to floor me and wrap her thighs around my neck and I'm just desperately tapping on her legs indicating submission but she doesn't let go and I pass out.

My parents have grounded her and she has to pay for my new phone.

How do I regain control over her? She's an annoying little SJW who constantly wears "girl power" shirts. I'm scared than she's going to think she's stronger than me? Even though she caught me off-guard both times and it was fluky.

I'm a little insecure about my strength, but the weakest man is still stronger than 99% of women right? And definitely stronger than a child?

This is the muscle difference between us. Just to say that I'm tensing and she's not, but it doesn't matter since I still think I have the superior muscle definition untensed. Not to mention that I'm a guy too.

Her: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet

We were measured a while ago, she had 14 inch calves and 20 inch thighs. I had 9.5 inch calves and 15 inch thighs so I'm a little insecure about that too but I'm pretty sure she's just got fatty legs.
Dude, you're an adult. Your sister is not your problem, she's your parents' problem. You have a life and she is not your kid.

You were probably trying your best not to hurt her and so didn't resist like you normally would. It sounds like she has some anger issues which can be quite overwhelming for any sane person, especially if they're fairly chilled and reasonable. You simply don't expect an 11 year old to showcase so much anger, and so you're off guard.

If she wants to go out without your parents' permission, you tell your parents that they need to deal with it. Don't try parent her, she's your sister, not your daughter. She'll respect you more anyway if you do this, and will respect you even more if she sees you have a life of your own.
 
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I rather doubt there is anything wrong with the girl at all. I think this is just a dysfunctional relationship. By now she has learnt from you, that she is smarter than you, and is a better fighter than you. It is nothing to do with being female or younger than you, and you male and near twice her age.. if she had been a boy you would be in exactly the same position.

It is not luck that she knew how to take advantage of the situation, and what to do to overcome you.

Talk of police and locking up is totally ridiculous. Get over it and learn to cope.

No, actually I'm a lot smarter than her and am probably stronger. It is luck, she does the same move over and over again you're giving her way too much credit.

The main thing I notice with this is the size of your thighs. 15 inches? Thats smaller than my biceps which are not huge. I would say it looks like you are even possibly malnourished. You need to exercise to build up your muscles and eat more to fuel them.

Its not unusual for brothers and sisters to fight, but for an 11 year old girl to beat up a 21 year old man is very unusual. The fact is she has bigger legs would seem to indicate she has more muscle mass which would make her stronger.

My daughter is nearly 14 and has never acted like that, partly because she knew she wouldnt get away with it. Your daughter is obviously not scared of the consequences of her actions. I have friends who's kids acted up a lot and the parents tend to be the namby pamby liberal wishy washy parents who like to let there kids be who they want and do what they want. Then they wonder why they dont listen to them and do what they want. One or two have done the whole going out and disappearing thing. They knew their phones could be tracked so turned them off. Weak parenting goes hand in hand with badly behaved kids.

And if I were you I would get myself involved in some sort of sport. Not necessarily weight training but something that would build strength. A decent diet would help as well.

Her calves are almost the same size as my thighs, according to your logic that would make her what, twice as strong? She's 70lbs lol, she doesn't have muscle. Having bigger legs doesn't make someone stronger, it just means she stores body fat differently. She has no muscle mass, she's a girl child it's all fat not muscle. Girls don't have the testosterone to be stronger than men, except if the girl has been training her whole life.
 
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The main thing I notice with this is the size of your thighs. 15 inches? Thats smaller than my biceps which are not huge. I would say it looks like you are even possibly malnourished. You need to exercise to build up your muscles and eat more to fuel them.

Its not unusual for brothers and sisters to fight, but for an 11 year old girl to beat up a 21 year old man is very unusual. The fact is she has bigger legs would seem to indicate she has more muscle mass which would make her stronger.

My daughter is nearly 14 and has never acted like that, partly because she knew she wouldnt get away with it. Your daughter is obviously not scared of the consequences of her actions. I have friends who's kids acted up a lot and the parents tend to be the namby pamby liberal wishy washy parents who like to let there kids be who they want and do what they want. Then they wonder why they dont listen to them and do what they want. One or two have done the whole going out and disappearing thing. They knew their phones could be tracked so turned them off. Weak parenting goes hand in hand with badly behaved kids.

And if I were you I would get myself involved in some sort of sport. Not necessarily weight training but something that would build strength. A decent diet would help as well.

Overly strict authoritarian parents can run into the same problems!
 
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residential treatment centers

If the child is a danger to herself or others. I was mistaken in thinking that incarcerate only meant to imprison. A residential treatment center is not prison even if it is a locked facility.

Jan 24, 2007 ... Nathaniel Abraham—arrested at the age of 11 and one of the youngest children in the US ever convicted as an adult for murder

The court system charged and sentenced him, not the parents.
 
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