Why Don't Jews Believe In Jesus ?

AbbaLove · Jan 18, 2018

Perhaps the best 5 minute Youtube when it comes to explaining the Disconnect

One of many encouraging Jewish testimonies ~ www.IMetMessiah.com

SBC · Jan 18, 2018

Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet, NOT their Messiah.

Some Jews calling themselves Messanic Jews, have accepted Jesus as their Messiah, their Lord and Savior.

God Bless,
SBC

SkyWriting · Jan 18, 2018

AbbaLove said:
Perhaps the best 5 minute Youtube when it comes to explaining the Disconnect
One of many encouraging Jewish testimonies ~ www.IMetMessiah.com

Jews for Jesus: Sharing Our Faith in Jesus as Messiah

Jews for Jesus - Jewish Virtual Library

AbbaLove · Jan 18, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Jews for Jesus: Sharing Our Faith in Jesus as Messiah

Jews for Jesus - Jewish Virtual Library

I couldn't find any 5-10 minute youtube presentation by JFJ. So far OFI's 5 minute presentation is the best available on the internet possibly because it is by Hebrew speaking Israeli Messianic Jews who understand why so many Israeli Jews don't believe in Yeshua. Israeli Orthodox Jews have been known to mock the name of Jesus as being anything but a great prophet.

Has Jews For Jesus posted any Youtube Jewish testimonies similar to the many wonderfully encouraging youtubes posted on the internet as has One For Israel ... www.IMetMessiah.com ... for example ...

ChavaK · Jan 18, 2018

SBC said:
Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet, NOT their Messiah.

SBC

Um, no. We don't think Jesus is a prophet.

HARK! · Jan 18, 2018

SBC said:
Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet, NOT their Messiah.

I understand that I'm providing anecdotal evidence; but I grew up with a majority of Jewish friends, from a very large Jewish community that extended for many miles. We would talk about our beliefs at length. None of them claimed that Yahshua was a prophet. Some of them denied that Yahshua even existed. What evidence do you have to support your perspective?

Heber Book List · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet, NOT their Messiah.

Some Jews calling themselves Messanic Jews, have accepted Jesus as their Messiah, their Lord and Savior.

God Bless,
SBC

I think it is reasonable to say that some Orthodox (and other) Jews will converse about Jesus, and may consider him as a minor prophet, but that is a very far cry from 'typically'. The average Jew, of any sort, on the street would not consider discussing Yeshua with a Gentile.

tampasteve · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet, NOT their Messiah.

As others have said, this is really not true. There have been some slanted studies that showed something to this effect, but many of them were small sample sizes and counted Messianic Jews in their count. Most Jewish people either think he did not exist, was just a guy that meant well, was a heretic, was a misunderstood teacher, or MOST just do not think about him at all outside of conversations with Christians because he is a minor footnote in their history and of no religious significance to them.

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

HARK! said:
I understand that I'm providing anecdotal evidence; but I grew up with a majority of Jewish friends, from a very large Jewish community that extended for many miles. We would talk about our beliefs at length. None of them claimed that Yahshua was a prophet. Some of them denied that Yahshua even existed. What evidence do you have to support your perspective?

HARK, ChavaK, Heber Book List,

Jews as a WHOLE defined People, do not ALL believe exactly the SAME, now or in the past.

Some Jews, in the past, believed Jesus to be a Prophet, and some a FALSE Prophet, and the same today.

Some do not believe Jesus existed.

Some in the past AND today, believed Jesus to be their TRUE Messiah, some thought Him a FALSE Messiah.

Inasmuch, any of you, being a Jew, or having Jewish friends that tell you WHAT THEY BELIEVE, so also I made a general statement.

The FACT is, in the past and today, NOT ALL JEWS believe the exact same things; NOR do Christians.

God Bless,
SBC

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

tampasteve said:
As others have said, this is really not true. There have been some slanted studies that showed something to this effect, but many of them were small sample sizes and counted Messianic Jews in their count. Most Jewish people either think he did not exist, was just a guy that meant well, was a heretic, was a misunderstood teacher, or MOST just do not think about him at all outside of conversations with Christians because he is a minor footnote in their history and of no religious significance to them.

Already addressed.

A study OF Jews, would not be completely satisfactory, without having the personal view of EVERY Jew.

The FACT is, like with most RACES and RELIGIONS, People do not all believe EXACTLY the same things.

God Bless,
SBC

tampasteve · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
Already addressed.

A study OF Jews, would not be completely satisfactory, without having the personal view of EVERY Jew.

The FACT is, like with most RACES and RELIGIONS, People do not all believe EXACTLY the same things.

God Bless,
SBC

Agreed

Jewish people's opinions on Yeshua do vary. I think that we took issue with the line "Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet..." because they do not. There are some, but they are the vast minority, not the typical.

Heber Book List · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
HARK, ChavaK, Heber Book List,

Jews as a WHOLE defined People, do not ALL believe exactly the SAME, now or in the past.

Some Jews, in the past, believed Jesus to be a Prophet, and some a FALSE Prophet, and the same today.

Some do not believe Jesus existed.

Some in the past AND today, believed Jesus to be their TRUE Messiah, some thought Him a FALSE Messiah.

Inasmuch, any of you, being a Jew, or having Jewish friends that tell you WHAT THEY BELIEVE, so also I made a general statement.

The FACT is, in the past and today, NOT ALL JEWS believe the exact same things; NOR do Christians.

God Bless,
SBC

My post was made because of the use of the 'typically' in your earlier post - that was incorrect, as noted by others.

danny ski · Jan 19, 2018

Let me first state the obvious. JFJ is a disgusting organization because their objective is the destruction of the Jewish people. As for Jesus- he has a bad reputation among us chiefly due to his followers' behavior toward the Jewish people, over the centuries. And since he cannot be separated from his followers- here we are.

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

tampasteve said:
Agreed Jewish people's opinions on Yeshua do vary. I think that we took issue with the line "Jewish people typically DO believe in Jesus, as a Prophet..." because they do not. There are some, but they are the vast minority, not the typical.

Heber Book List, tampasteve,

Of course I do not know, any others reasoning source, only my own.

My source is of a neighbor, an American, a Pastor, and lengthy conversations with him.

His source, is via his own experiences, having lived in Israel, several times, for periods of 4, 5 years at a time. He didn't Paster IN A Church in Israel, but rather spent his time with different small groups of Jews (and Muslims), specifically getting their views, and teaching about Christ Jesus.

I'm sure as you each trust your own source, so do I.

If what I said, doesn't apply to you, so be it.
Much of what others say About Christianity, About my Race, doesn't apply to me.

God Bless,
SBC

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

danny ski said:
Let me first state the obvious. JFJ is a disgusting organization because their objective is the destruction of the Jewish people. As for Jesus- he has a bad reputation among us chiefly due to his followers' behavior toward the Jewish people, over the centuries. And since he cannot be separated from his followers- here we are.

Despite your disgust for the JFJ organization;
There ARE Messianic Jews, who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

It doesn't matter IF you have. Other Jews have made their own choices.

God Bless,
SBC

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

~ danny ski, ChavaK,

You both appear to have claimed you are Jews.

QUESTION ~

Do you believe there are no Messianic Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior?

QUESTION ~

How does a Jew receive Forgiveness from God, without slaughtering an animal on the alter. Could you elaborate, IF you participate in animal slaughter, on an alter, or not, or otherwise how a Jew does receive Forgiveness from God?

Thank you,
God Bless,
SBC

tampasteve · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
~ danny ski, ChavaK,

You both appear to have claimed you are Jews.

QUESTION ~

Do you believe there are no Messianic Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior?

QUESTION ~

How does a Jew receive Forgiveness from God, without slaughtering an animal on the alter. Could you elaborate, IF you participate in animal slaughter, on an alter, or not, or otherwise how a Jew does receive Forgiveness from God?

Thank you,
God Bless,
SBC

I know this was not addressed to me...but.
Most Jews believe that once one believes in Yeshua one is no longer a religious Jew but an apostate. The group that believes there is such a thing as Messianic Judaism is very small.

Animal sacrifice is on hold until the temple is rebuilt and remittance of sins is not it's purpose anyways. The purpose of the temple sacrifice is to draw near to G_d in His earthly Temple. The scriptures are quite clear that sacrifice can only take place at the Temple. Obviously this is a super simplified version, but this really is a subject for a different thread, I believe.

Heber Book List · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
~ danny ski, ChavaK,

You both appear to have claimed you are Jews.

QUESTION ~

Do you believe there are no Messianic Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior?

QUESTION ~

How does a Jew receive Forgiveness from God, without slaughtering an animal on the alter. Could you elaborate, IF you participate in animal slaughter, on an alter, or not, or otherwise how a Jew does receive Forgiveness from God?

Thank you,
God Bless,
SBC

Please be aware it is not allowed on here to doubt posters' assertions of their faith. They do not 'appear' to be Jews, they are, and are accepted on this forum as Jews, and have been for some years.

Heber Book List · Jan 19, 2018

SBC said:
Heber Book List, tampasteve,

Of course I do not know, any others reasoning source, only my own.

My source is of a neighbor, an American, a Pastor, and lengthy conversations with him.

His source, is via his own experiences, having lived in Israel, several times, for periods of 4, 5 years at a time. He didn't Paster IN A Church in Israel, but rather spent his time with different small groups of Jews (and Muslims), specifically getting their views, and teaching about Christ Jesus.

I'm sure as you each trust your own source, so do I.

If what I said, doesn't apply to you, so be it.
Much of what others say About Christianity, About my Race, doesn't apply to me.

God Bless,
SBC

I lived in the second biggest area in the UK for Orthodox Jews for 7 years, until last July, so my view is based on my own experience, both professionally, and personally.

SBC · Jan 19, 2018

Heber Book List said:
Please be aware it is not allowed on here to doubt posters' assertions of their faith. They do not 'appear' to be Jews, they are, and are accepted on this forum as Jews, and have been for some years.

I am not challenging "THEIR ASSECTIONS" of "THEIR FAITH".
Presuming I KNOW, what they have claimed for years, is presuming, I have a history with "THEM". I don't.
I go by my conversing with THEM, now, and not once did they SAY TO ME, they were JEWS. They made statements, saying, "WE", "US", which gave me the appearance of "THEM" being Jews.

So kindly, do not presume I know what you know, or that my understanding based only on their saying "we" and "us", is somehow saying that is NOT TRUE, (which WOULD BE challenging their faith), because I said no such thing.

God Bless,
SBC

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