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They have a way, where a parent can request such for a limited amount of time without telling the 11 year old the limit. I forget the legal name for this. But, is legal in all States. Its purpose is to teach a lesson about where a child is heading if they do not straighten up their act. They do not put the child in a cell with an adult, just alone where they are isolated to let their own mind run wild. I know of Children who were put in such a situation and all of them realized that is not a place they want to end up --- and after that walked the straight and narrow.
I do not know those children or what was really gong on in their hearts and minds. They may have been traumatized into "walking the straight and narrow" out of terror. How can I tell? I still think the idea of incarcerating an 11 year old is detestable.

You have to assume a lot of things, actually have...faith...in a lot things. Like

1. The people running the program are competent.
2. The people who are running the program, and the people who are dealing with the children in any way aren't pedophiles, frankly, or sick in some other ways. A child is incredibly vulnerable in such a place. Many, many children have reported horrific abuse in places where they were incarcerated, and that includes full blown, nearly adult, teenagers.
3. Those who report "great success" aren't just giving THEIR opinions of what "great success" is, or really even care about their children other than trying to get them to "walk the straight and narrow."
4. Every child is the same and if one child "benefited" then all children will.

If children are acting out there is an underlying problem. It could be physical and/or emotional. I don't buy it that incarcerating them will get to the root of the problem, but can see how it would cause the problem to be suppressed.

I see no reason whatsoever to trust any such situation and would certainly never put a child in any such place.
 
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In the USA they have a way, where a parent can request such for a limited amount of time without telling the 11 year old the limit. I forget the legal name for this. But, is legal in all States. Its purpose is to teach a lesson about where a child is heading if they do not straighten up their act. They do not put the child in a cell with an adult, just alone where they are isolated to let their own mind run wild. I know of Children who were put in such a situation and all of them realized that is not a place they want to end up --- and after that walked the straight and narrow.
This doesn't work. Shaming and scaring a kid when they're acting like this only adds trauma
 
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This doesn't work. Shaming and scaring a kid when they're acting like this only adds trauma
Amen. And it makes them vulnerable to any predators around. Of course those who prey on children will be attracted to a place where a child is alone and isolated, not under parental supervision and protection.
 
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I'm a 21 year old man, my 11 year old sister was trying to sneak out of the house at like 8pm. I stopped her but she was really insistent on going (our parents weren't home). I took her phone from her and told her she wasn't going anywhere before I call our parents.

She was really mad, she was in tears and was screaming at me. Then she starts punching and kicking me trying to get her phone back. One of the punches lands hard in my stomach and I get winded. The next thing I know she's dragged me to the ground and she's got her thighs wrapped around my neck squeezing really hard. I'm unable to remove her legs and can't breathe so I give her the phone back and submit.

She refuses to let go, she tells me to give me my phone. I do this, then she goes to the bathroom, throws my phone in the toilet and flushes it.

I go up to her and (I'm not proud of this) hit her. She again manages to floor me and wrap her thighs around my neck and I'm just desperately tapping on her legs indicating submission but she doesn't let go and I pass out.

My parents have grounded her and she has to pay for my new phone.

How do I regain control over her? She's an annoying little SJW who constantly wears "girl power" shirts. I'm scared than she's going to think she's stronger than me? Even though she caught me off-guard both times and it was fluky.

I'm a little insecure about my strength, but the weakest man is still stronger than 99% of women right? And definitely stronger than a child?

This is the muscle difference between us. Just to say that I'm tensing and she's not, but it doesn't matter since I still think I have the superior muscle definition untensed. Not to mention that I'm a guy too.

Her: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet

We were measured a while ago, she had 14 inch calves and 20 inch thighs. I had 9.5 inch calves and 15 inch thighs so I'm a little insecure about that too but I'm pretty sure she's just got fatty legs.
I would suggest you leave disciplining your sister to your parents from now on. Instead of trying to overpower your sister, call your parents next time when your sister tries to sneak out.

You may consider learning "Wing Chun", a Chinese self-defense martial art developed by a woman that enables a smaller, weaker person to defeat a bigger, stronger person.
 
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It seems there is a lack of communication between your sister and parents and you.

Family should spend more time together, a picnic is a good idea, to talk and talk and talk while having fun and to forget enmity with you.

Avoid using muscle to fight her, it will make things worst.

Pray to Jesus about her !
 
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I'm a 21 year old man, my 11 year old sister was trying to sneak out of the house at like 8pm. I stopped her but she was really insistent on going (our parents weren't home). I took her phone from her and told her she wasn't going anywhere before I call our parents.

She was really mad, she was in tears and was screaming at me. Then she starts punching and kicking me trying to get her phone back. One of the punches lands hard in my stomach and I get winded. The next thing I know she's dragged me to the ground and she's got her thighs wrapped around my neck squeezing really hard. I'm unable to remove her legs and can't breathe so I give her the phone back and submit.

She refuses to let go, she tells me to give me my phone. I do this, then she goes to the bathroom, throws my phone in the toilet and flushes it.

I go up to her and (I'm not proud of this) hit her. She again manages to floor me and wrap her thighs around my neck and I'm just desperately tapping on her legs indicating submission but she doesn't let go and I pass out.

My parents have grounded her and she has to pay for my new phone.

How do I regain control over her? She's an annoying little SJW who constantly wears "girl power" shirts. I'm scared than she's going to think she's stronger than me? Even though she caught me off-guard both times and it was fluky.

I'm a little insecure about my strength, but the weakest man is still stronger than 99% of women right? And definitely stronger than a child?

This is the muscle difference between us. Just to say that I'm tensing and she's not, but it doesn't matter since I still think I have the superior muscle definition untensed. Not to mention that I'm a guy too.

Her: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Me (tensing): Imgur: The magic of the Internet

We were measured a while ago, she had 14 inch calves and 20 inch thighs. I had 9.5 inch calves and 15 inch thighs so I'm a little insecure about that too but I'm pretty sure she's just got fatty legs.
I would have called the police and told them she needs to go to a youth detention center. Don't let women or girls treat you like that because they think that because they are female they can do what they want. Next time, don't hit her, just call 911 or the police, and let them come deal with her.
 
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I would have called the police and told them she needs to go to a youth detention center. Don't let women or girls treat you like that because they think that because they are female they can do what they want. Next time, don't hit her, just call 911 or the police, and let them come deal with her.
This is a really bad idea. They will not take an eleven year old on her big brother's say-so. In some jurisdictions, in a domestic dispute they have to take someone in, and it could just as easily be you. You will lose any tiny remnants of trust you may have with her. And really bad things can happen to an eleven year old if they would incarcerate her. This is a vulnerable child, not - - what? Your worst enemy's dog? I am sorry I am being so adamant but there is something going on with this child and "Lock her up" is not the answer.
My stepdaughter's.mother was having problems with her at eleven and the police would not do anything. You can't just dump a little kid off at juvy.
 
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I'm a great-grandmother who has been around the block a few times. I don't know about the United Kingdom, but there's an option of all calling the police here. That might make your parents angry, but if it does I would tell them to lay down the rules and take care of her consequences or you won't stay home alone with her. Struggling with an eleven-year-old is dangerous (or legal trouble) for both of you. I used to go over to my daughter's home to watch her kids. One grandson became so defiant that I refused to watch her kids after that. I was apalled at the disrespect that grandson showed --- shocked really because I wouldn't have dreamed of being disrespectful to my grandparents. And I wasn't fearful of punishment as a child; I just didn't like to be scolded.

Defiant teens can be put on probation here in the States. If they get a good probation officer, he/she will inform them that they are to obey the rules he/she sets down or be sent to a juvenile home.

I hope everything works out for you.
 
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This is a really bad idea. They will not take an eleven year old on her big brother's say-so. In some jurisdictions, in a domestic dispute they have to take someone in, and it could just as easily be you. You will lose any tiny remnants of trust you may have with her. And really bad things can happen to an eleven year old if they would incarcerate her. This is a vulnerable child, not - - what? Your worst enemy's dog? I am sorry I am being so adamant but there is something going on with this child and "Lock her up" is not the answer.
My stepdaughter's.mother was having problems with her at eleven and the police would not do anything. You can't just dump a little kid off at juvy.

Family Services in every state can get involved. The police should have told your stepdaughter's mother what her options are. Children might be vulnerable, but if they are allowed to behave violently at eleven, there are going to be worse problems in the future. Parenting classes are a must, although it sounds like it's too late.
 
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Family Services in every state can get involved. The police should have told your stepdaughter's mother what her options are. Children might be vulnerable, but if they are allowed to behave violently at eleven, there are going to be worse problems in the future. Parenting classes are a must, although it sounds like it's too late.
Family services did get involved. That was not my point. My point is that calling the police if you are the big brother is a very bad idea. As for my stepdaughter, she skipped the last two years of high school and went to the best university in the state. This was good for her because then she got to live in the dorm and not with her.mother. She has now graduated from law school and owns a house at the age of 27. She had her reasons for acting out and I suspect that this little girl does too.
 
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I would have called the police and told them she needs to go to a youth detention center. Don't let women or girls treat you like that because they think that because they are female they can do what they want. Next time, don't hit her, just call 911 or the police, and let them come deal with her.

It has NOTHING to do with being female! NOTHING! Something has gone drastically wrong in that family or the eleven-year-old would know that getting physical isn't an option. That girl has an anger problem. A professional needs to get at the root of it.
 
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Family services did get involved. That was not my point. My point is that calling the police if you are the big brother is a very bad idea. As for my stepdaughter, she skipped the last two years of high school and went to the best university in the state. She has now graduated from law school and owns a house at the age of 27. She had her reasons for acting out and I suspect that this little girl does too.

If calling for help isn't an option (and it shouldn't be necessary), the parents shouldn't ask her brother to be in charge while they're gone.
 
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It seems there is a lack of communication between your sister and parents and you.

Family should spend more time together, a picnic is a good idea, to talk and talk and talk while having fun and to forget enmity with you.

Avoid using muscle to fight her, it will make things worst.

Pray to Jesus about her !

Family time won't help at this stage of the game. And quite possibly the parents were either witholding consequences for bad behavior, or being too harsh. Authoritarian parents end up with as many problems as those who enforce no rules. Authoritative parenting is the best option, but should have started before she turned eleven.
 
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I do not know those children or what was really gong on in their hearts and minds. They may have been traumatized into "walking the straight and narrow" out of terror. How can I tell? I still think the idea of incarcerating an 11 year old is detestable.

You have to assume a lot of things, actually have...faith...in a lot things. Like

1. The people running the program are competent.
2. The people who are running the program, and the people who are dealing with the children in any way aren't pedophiles, frankly, or sick in some other ways. A child is incredibly vulnerable in such a place. Many, many children have reported horrific abuse in places where they were incarcerated, and that includes full blown, nearly adult, teenagers.
3. Those who report "great success" aren't just giving THEIR opinions of what "great success" is, or really even care about their children other than trying to get them to "walk the straight and narrow."
4. Every child is the same and if one child "benefited" then all children will.

If children are acting out there is an underlying problem. It could be physical and/or emotional. I don't buy it that incarcerating them will get to the root of the problem, but can see how it would cause the problem to be suppressed.

I see no reason whatsoever to trust any such situation and would certainly never put a child in any such place.

A parent can't incarcerate a child. There are homes where they receive counseling.
 
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