Buzz_B
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LOL. Are they trying to wear you out?Why would God bless Jewish Christian as a remnant? God is a spirit and is doing a spiritual thing this does not include Jewish Christians. Where do you get this? it is a spiritual temple God is building, a spiritual remnant, a spiritual priesthood and yes all people will be blessed in the ages to come but not by some Jewish christian.
This is a good thread. I find the depth to which you have all been reasoning quite refreshing. It is so very rare on sites such as this.
Deadworm made what he feels is a good point, saying, "Any illusion we might have that this universal salvation will be restricted to the elect is removed by 11:32: "For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all."
Truthfully, that is not any different than what is said, here: "who desires all people to be saved and come to full knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:4
Look at Romans 11:32 again: "For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all."
Compare: Romans 11:14; 1 Corinthians 9:22 ("save some") Not all. "Some."
So I hope Deadworm recognizes that there are two groups: The elect called and chosen of God and those called but not chosen of God.
Matthew 22:14 "For many are called, but few chosen."
I agree with your thinking in many ways but I think that you may have confused being called and being chosen based only upon the parable of the ten virgins. I mean, lets face it, whether we be chosen as a part of the bride of Christ or we merely become those who respond to the call of the spirit and the bride, "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And he that heareth, let him say, Come. And he that is athirst, let him come: he that will, let him take the water of life freely" (Revelation 22:17), it is only God that makes it grow. The planting of the seeds of truth and the watering are done the same way for all. "I planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase." 1 Corinthians 3:6
I compliment your realizing that the elect are the mount Zion of God. Psalms 78:68 "But chose the tribe of Judah, The mount Zion which he loved." (ASV)
Psalms 125:1 "They that trust in Jehovah Are as mount Zion, which cannot be moved, but abideth for ever."(ASV)
God dwells in his holy mountain - or IOW- God dwells in his congregation of elect. And all who join themselves to that congregation, though they not all be elect, benefit from the holy spirit being there among those elect.
For many, this unfortunately is hidden by their failure to properly divide the Greek language before moving onto assume things in the English.
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