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Hi All,
I have few issues that I'd like to talk about and I'd like to begin with this one. I understand that divorce is often the sin of both partners and is (as far as I know) always the sin of at least one partner. My question is this: In the case of abuse or abandonment, is it a sin for the abused or abandoned partner to seek a divorce? If so, why?
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Hi All,
I have few issues that I'd like to talk about and I'd like to begin with this one. I understand that divorce is often the sin of both partners and is (as far as I know) always the sin of at least one partner. My question is this: In the case of abuse or abandonment, is it a sin for the abused or abandoned partner to seek a divorce? If so, why?
~Beloved2018
Your answer is likely to be in 1 Cor. 7. Sometimes people will argue about the passage, or even ignore it, or even try to insist on alternative interpretations from what some readers may see as being self-evident; but it's a relevant passage.
 
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Hi All,
I have few issues that I'd like to talk about and I'd like to begin with this one. I understand that divorce is often the sin of both partners and is (as far as I know) always the sin of at least one partner. My question is this: In the case of abuse or abandonment, is it a sin for the abused or abandoned partner to seek a divorce? If so, why?
~Beloved2018
I think it is acceptable if a abused or abandoned partner seeks divorce. Sometimes it is the only way the partner can find safety.
 
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I just have a question. Why is this being asked in the Catholic forum? Is the Catholic view of divorce wanted?
Does it really make a difference what one list as their faith? I had to remove my listing because of spirits like yours. This type of segregation is detrimental to the site.
 
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Actually it does since this is the Catholic sub forum. If someone asks a question in here then they most likely want a Catholic answer not one from every tom, dick, and harry from every where
 
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Excuse me? It was an honest question.
Does it really make a difference what one list as their faith? I had to remove my listing because of spirits like yours. This type of segregation is detrimental to the site.
 
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Actually it does since this is the Catholic sub forum. If someone asks a question in here then they most likely want a Catholic answer not one from every tom, dick, and harry from every where
I get it, so the reply was to stop people who dont list there religion as catholic.....because some spirits dont want to even comment on threads with people who have a different spirit. Maybe it would have be better to assume, since this is a catholic forum....the poster wants catholic advice and give it.....and just tell me to mind my business because of want i listed as my religion?

But i see no fault is however you choose to run your life or this site.
 
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I get it, so the reply was to stop people who dont list there religion as catholic.....because some spirits dont want to even comment on threads with people who have a different spirit. Maybe it would have be better to assume, since this is a catholic forum....the poster wants catholic advice and give it.....and just tell me to mind my business because of want i listed as my religion?

But i see no fault is however you choose to run your life or this site.

No Michie ask an honest question. The big problem is that CF list every post on the side so not many know where they are posting, personally I wish they would stop that it would make it better imho.
 
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No Michie ask an honest question. The big problem is that CF list every post on the side so not many know where they are posting, personally I wish they would stop that it would make it better imho.
I agree on all account.....The poster is honest.....and your suggestion would make things better. I've already learn to not even read Posts by her, as my comments arent welcomed or considered because of my listing....now I know I should be more careful about reading the groups as well before reading.

I just feel good advise is good advise. God is the same everywhere, so your religious listing is not that important. I have no fear of believing anything other than the truth, so I dont mind hearing and giving respect to all. but not all have this view. And the separations on this site are for those who dont....so I will respect it.
 
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Catholics don't acknowledge divorce. A marriage is either valid from the onset, or it's not. The Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, has a process for determining whether it was ever valid as the Sacrament that Holy Matrimony is, and if it wasn't then the couple move on. But a secular divorce is meaningless to the Church.

If a couple has a secular divorce but the Church determines that their marriage was valid, then the people in question are expected to be celibate going forward if they want to remain in good standing with the Church. Else they find themselves in mortal sin and unable to receive the Eucharist, should they pursue a relationship or remarriage.
 
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Hi All,
I have few issues that I'd like to talk about and I'd like to begin with this one. I understand that divorce is often the sin of both partners and is (as far as I know) always the sin of at least one partner. My question is this: In the case of abuse or abandonment, is it a sin for the abused or abandoned partner to seek a divorce? If so, why?
~Beloved2018
God hates divorce. To protect yourself or your children you may have to separate. To do so for good reason would not be a sin. You may need to get a civil divorce in the case of abuse, to protect yourself or your children. To do so for serious good reason would not be a sin. But a civil divorce does not grant you the right to marry again in the Church. If your marriage was valid in the first place you are still considered married even if you have a civil divorce. Remarrying would be a sin if the first marriage was valid. If it wasn't valid, you would be free to marry again in your first real (valid) marriage.

Can you tell us a little bit about the circumstances. We aren't any sort of marriage tribunal, but we might have a few ideas for you.
 
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I always wondered how church leaders expect women to take care of their kids after a divorce if they can't remarry--especially if the man has run off and is not supporting their kids. Some women have been housewives all their lives and couldn't find a job that would even come close to supporting a family.
 
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Excuse me? It was an honest question.

I didn't mean to cause contention. I've listed myself as, 'Christian' because even though I'm Catholic, I'm struggling with issues and don't want people trusting my opinion of Catholicism.
 
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God hates divorce. To protect yourself or your children you may have to separate. To do so for good reason would not be a sin. You may need to get a civil divorce in the case of abuse, to protect yourself or your children. To do so for serious good reason would not be a sin. But a civil divorce does not grant you the right to marry again in the Church. If your marriage was valid in the first place you are still considered married even if you have a civil divorce. Remarrying would be a sin if the first marriage was valid. If it wasn't valid, you would be free to marry again in your first real (valid) marriage.

Can you tell us a little bit about the circumstances. We aren't any sort of marriage tribunal, but we might have a few ideas for you.

My biological father was a serial cheater, verbally and physically abusive. We were on our way to a women's shelter when my grandmother intervened and gave us a home. My siblings and I still have emotional scars. Mom grew up a Confessional Lutheran (they don't take divorce lightly either), it was hard convincing her, it was not a sin to leave. She made vows after all and she took them seriously. She eventually remarried the most God-fearing and paternal Lutheran I had ever known. I consider him a gift of God. He healed our fractured spirits as much as they could be, by any man. He had been married too. He took his vows seriously too. He never planned to divorce either. Then one day, he finds out his wife has been cheating on him throughout their marriage, that she no longer loves him and is leaving him.

I have an aunt who after 20 yrs of marriage to an alcoholic husband was told, 'I love you, but am not in love with you'. He refused to go to marriage counseling.

Now I have cousin going through similar stuff.

What if they were all Catholic? I'd like to tell my cousin, 'Hey why not come to Church with me. Jesus your true Husband is waiting there. Come to a place of solace, where people won't blame you for what he did. I know you're tired. You'll find so much comfort here'. She's 30 yrs old and the look in her eyes and the stress and worry on her face is so sad. I can't lay the burden of sin on her, or on my mom or 'dad' or aunt. They're not the abusers, the adulterers, ect. they're not the ones who broke up a marriage.'

~Beloved2018
 
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