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His Statement of Faith,

The Bible is the inspired Word of God, a revelation from God to mankind, the infallible rule of faith and conduct, and is superior to conscience and reason, but not contrary to reason (2 Timothy 3:15-16Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 Peter 2:2Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The one true God has revealed Himself as the eternally self-existent, self-revealed “I AM” and has further revealed Himself as embodying the principles of relationship and association, i.e., Father, Son, and Holy Ghost (Deuteronomy 6:4Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Mark 12:29Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Isaiah 43:10Open in Logos Bible Software (if available), 11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Matthew 28:19Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


That man was created good and upright, for God said “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” But man, by voluntary transgression, fell, and his only hope of redemption is in Jesus Christ the Son of God (Genesis 1:26-31: 3Open in Logos Bible Software (if available):1-7; Romans 5:12-21Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The grace of God, which brings salvation, has appeared to all men, through the preaching of repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ; man is saved by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost, and, being justified by grace through faith, he becomes an heir of God according to the hope of eternal life (Titus 2:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Romans 10:13-15Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Luke 23:47Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Titus 3:5-7Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). The “inward” evidence to the believer of his salvation is the direct witness of the Spirit (Romans 8:16Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). The “outward” evidence of his salvation to all men is a life of righteousness and true holiness.


The ordinance of baptism by a burial with Christ should be observed as commanded in the Scriptures, by all who have repented and in their hearts have truly believed in Christ as Savior and Lord. In so doing, they have the body washed in pure water as an outward symbol of cleansing, while their heart has already been sprinkled with the blood of Christ as an inner cleansing. Thus, they declare to the world that they have died with Jesus and that they have also been raised with Him to walk in newness of life (Matthew 28:19Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Acts 10:47-48Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Romans 6:4Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Acts 20:21Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Hebrews 10:22Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The Lord’s Supper, consisting of the elements, bread and the fruit of the vine, is the symbol expressing our sharing the divine nature of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Peter 1:4Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), a memorial of His suffering and death (1 Corinthians 11:26Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). It is enjoined on all believers “until He comes.”


That all believers are entitled to, and should ardently expect, and earnestly seek, the promise of the Father, the baptism in the Holy Ghost and fire, according to the command of our Lord Jesus Christ. This was the normal experience of all in the early Christian church. With it comes the enduement of power for life and service, the bestowment of the gifts and their uses in the work of the ministry (Luke 24:29Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Acts 1:4Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1:8Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 Corinthians 12:1-31Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). This wonderful experience is distinct from and subsequent to the experience of the new birth (Acts 10:44-46Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 11:14-16Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 15:7-9Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


In the baptism of believers as a unique work of the Holy Ghost—an evidence of which is the speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance (Acts 2:4Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). The manifestation of speaking in other tongues, in this instance, is the same in essence as the gift of tongues (1 Corinthians 12:4-10Open in Logos Bible Software (if available), 28Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)) but different in purpose and use.


The Scriptures teach a life of holiness without which no man shall see the Lord. By the power of the Holy Ghost we are able to obey the command, “Be ye holy, for I am holy.” Entire sanctification is the will of God for all believers, and should be earnestly pursued by walking in obedience to God’s Word (Hebrews 12:14Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 Peter 1:15-16Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 John 2:6Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The church is the body of Christ, the habitation of God through the Spirit with divine appointments for the fulfillment of the great commission. Each believer, born of the Spirit, is an integral part of the church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven (Ephesians 1:22-23Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 2:22Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Hebrews 12:33Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


A divinely called and scripturally ordained ministry has been provided by our Lord for a twofold purpose: The evangelization of the world, and the edifying of the Body of Christ (Mark 16:15-20Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Ephesians 4:11-13Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


Deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement and is the privilege of all believers (Isaiah 53:4-5Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Matthew 8:16-17Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The resurrection of those who have fallen asleep in Christ and their translation, together with those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, is the imminent and blessed hope of the church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Titus 2:12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 1 Corinthians 15:51-52Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Romans 8:23Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ from heaven, the salvation of national Israel, and the Millennial reign of Christ on earth is the Scriptural promise and the world’s hope (2 Thessalonians 1:17Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Revelation 19:11-14Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Romans 11:26-27Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Revelation 20:1-7Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


The devil and his angels, the beast and the false prophet, and whosoever is not found written in the Book of Life, shall be consigned to everlasting punishment in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death (Revelation 19:20Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Revelation 20:10-15Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).


“According to His promise, look for new heavens, and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness” (2 Peter 3:13Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); Revelation 21:1Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).
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This emphasis I wish to place with that scripture is that the evil spirit was seemingly in a place of assisting the work of salvation. Paul did not cast it out at first but did so later. Not all Spirits are against salvation per say, many are more interested in their own personal issues and desires and will ride the church like a parasite even if some are turned to the Lord. These are very dangerous because they are so hard to see.

Perhaps in this case the excentric and peculiar behavior gave it away for Paul as it accumulated over time. There is a saying I have heard many times that says "look for the tail". That is when something evil tries to make itself look good there is always a tail if you look at the whole thing. When it comes to false Charisms it always seems to involve eccentricities.

The girl in Acts 16 in the Greek was saying "a way of Salvation", not "the way of Salvation" which is more consistent with a lying spirit.
 
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The girl in Acts 16 in the Greek was saying "a way of Salvation", not "the way of Salvation" which is more consistent with a lying spirit.
That doesn't change the logical outcome of what she said. That being that she drew in people to listen to Paul.
 
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Is there a text edition of this, I do not have speakers.

In a nut shell he says the the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are individuals ie 3 of the 9 they all have souls ie 3 of the 9 and spirits ie 3 of the 9
3x3=9

HE is bring God down to mans level
 
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I asked for Biblical support & verses.

If you could please reply with that.

I think He has this in mind. Further research has shown that "a way" is the correct translation. When you think about New Agers for example, the false spirits behind them will teach "a way" to God. This "a way" is consistent with demons.

Acts 16:17King James Version (KJV)
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

Acts 16:17Common English Bible (CEB)
17 She began following Paul and us, shouting, “These people are servants of the Most High God! They are proclaiming a way of salvation to you!”

Another text that may be quoted is,

James 2:19
It’s good that you believe that God is one. Ha! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble with fear.
 
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I have copied this thread from another forum to give a more general group of people from different denominations the opportunity to respond without getting themselves into trouble. I would appreciate if people didn't aim comments at me personally, but to comment on the issues instead. Then we can have a good, even if very spirited discussion for and against what I might be implying. Here is the post I entered in the other forum:

I know that there have been threads on this topic before and there has been quite a range of views, some very supportive, and others fairly harsh and unloving toward him.
The first question to be asked - Is he a born again Christian brother? If he is, then we have to love him as Christ loves us, because if we cannot love him like that, we know really know God at all, because God is pure love.
The next question I have is, does he preach the Lordship of Christ, the need to receive Christ as Saviour, the need to repent, and the necessity of living a holy life before God? If so, he cannot be a false preacher or teacher, because he is teaching the fundamentals of the Christian faith.
The next question is: are the manifestations of falling over in the Spirit and other manifestation associated with his ministry true or false? Well, if he is preaching truth as I have defined above, there is a good indication that the manifestations are true also.
Do we all agree with what he does and how he does it? No, and this is quite normal because we all have different perspectives and callings. We all do things differently, but because there is a diversity of gifts, callings and methods, that doesn't mean that just because we disagree, that it is actually false and not of God.

A false teacher or preacher is not a genuine born again believer in Christ. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He does not promote the Lordship of Christ, quite the opposite, he will promote New Age self dependence, and say that Number One is the most important person to be considered (by that I mean self, and self improvement). He will also promote liberalism in that it is not necessary to live a holy life, because Jesus forgave all sin, so it won't matter if we keep sinning. We won't be subject to any consequences if we sleep around, get involved in the occult, consult fortune tellers, because psychics can guide people just as well as the Holy Spirit. This is how the New Testament defines a false prophet, teacher, or preacher.

Just because a Charismatic preacher has unusual manifestations in his meetings and whole groups of people are slain in the Spirit, it doesn't mean that he is a false teacher. Actually, God is not very concerned about manifestations unless they are so out of control that they promote riotous living and lawlessness and a lack of self-control in people's daily living.

I just thought I would chuck that into the pot and see what boils up.
Benny Hinn seeking out the not so sick for his "miracle healing" sessions:

False miracles:

Benny Hinn has a private jet and several houses.
A Google search of "Benny Hinn fraud" might yield enough articles to arouse suspicion.
 
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That doesn't change the logical outcome of what she said. That being that she drew in people to listen to Paul.

16 One day, when we were on the way to the place for prayer, we met a slave woman. She had a spirit that enabled her to predict the future. She made a lot of money for her owners through fortune-telling. 17 She began following Paul and us, shouting, “These people are servants of the Most High God! They are proclaiming a way of salvation to you!” 18 She did this for many days.

This annoyed Paul so much that he finally turned and said to the spirit, “In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave her!” It left her at that very moment.

19 Her owners realized that their hope for making money was gone. They grabbed Paul and Silas and dragged them before the officials in the city center. 20 When her owners approached the legal authorities, they said, “These people are causing an uproar in our city. They are Jews 21 who promote customs that we Romans can’t accept or practice.” 22 The crowd joined in the attacks against Paul and Silas, so the authorities ordered that they be stripped of their clothes and beaten with a rod. 23 When Paul and Silas had been severely beaten, the authorities threw them into prison and ordered the jailer to secure them with great care. 24 When he received these instructions, he threw them into the innermost cell and secured their feet in stocks.

There is nothing in the text that says she was drawing people to them to hear the gospel. Since Paul got "annoyed", I would understand it that she was keeping people away from them. Neither of us were there, both of our opinions are arguments from silence, thus it can not be proven either way. We do not know how much time passed for example between verses 18 and 19, nor do we know if the crowd later in the text was present when the demon was cast out. Thank You for your kind opinion. Daniel
 
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I have copied this thread from another forum to give a more general group of people from different denominations the opportunity to respond without getting themselves into trouble. I would appreciate if people didn't aim comments at me personally, but to comment on the issues instead. Then we can have a good, even if very spirited discussion for and against what I might be implying. Here is the post I entered in the other forum:

I know that there have been threads on this topic before and there has been quite a range of views, some very supportive, and others fairly harsh and unloving toward him.
The first question to be asked - Is he a born again Christian brother? If he is, then we have to love him as Christ loves us, because if we cannot love him like that, we know really know God at all, because God is pure love.
The next question I have is, does he preach the Lordship of Christ, the need to receive Christ as Saviour, the need to repent, and the necessity of living a holy life before God? If so, he cannot be a false preacher or teacher, because he is teaching the fundamentals of the Christian faith.
The next question is: are the manifestations of falling over in the Spirit and other manifestation associated with his ministry true or false? Well, if he is preaching truth as I have defined above, there is a good indication that the manifestations are true also.
Do we all agree with what he does and how he does it? No, and this is quite normal because we all have different perspectives and callings. We all do things differently, but because there is a diversity of gifts, callings and methods, that doesn't mean that just because we disagree, that it is actually false and not of God.

A false teacher or preacher is not a genuine born again believer in Christ. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He does not promote the Lordship of Christ, quite the opposite, he will promote New Age self dependence, and say that Number One is the most important person to be considered (by that I mean self, and self improvement). He will also promote liberalism in that it is not necessary to live a holy life, because Jesus forgave all sin, so it won't matter if we keep sinning. We won't be subject to any consequences if we sleep around, get involved in the occult, consult fortune tellers, because psychics can guide people just as well as the Holy Spirit. This is how the New Testament defines a false prophet, teacher, or preacher.

Just because a Charismatic preacher has unusual manifestations in his meetings and whole groups of people are slain in the Spirit, it doesn't mean that he is a false teacher. Actually, God is not very concerned about manifestations unless they are so out of control that they promote riotous living and lawlessness and a lack of self-control in people's daily living.

I just thought I would chuck that into the pot and see what boils up.

First of all........"Slain in the spirit" is a non-biblical term. there is NO such thing in the Bible. It is a term made up by those who are overcome emotionally.

The only example of such a thing that I can think of is the men in the Garden who came to arrest Jesus and all of them were wick lost men who were intent on killing Jesus.

There does not seem to be any validity to Mr. Hinns claim of healings.

According to investigative groups Benny Hinn has had ZERO verifiable healings of any kind in now 36 years and a $100 million a year "healing enterprise." This record of ZERO healings is shared amongst investigative groups such as Inside Edition, Dateline NBC, 60 .Minutes, HBO First Look, Trinity Foundation, FOX NEWS.

Even old friends of Benny Hinn appear to feel that Hinn "started out as a good man, but that changed when "dark characters" from the "preaching for profit" industry came into the picture.
Benny Hinn: How many OFFICIAL healings has Benny Hinn had? | God in a Nutshell Project
 
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Where?

1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

When did Satan get filled with the Spirit?

Who claimed any of these hucksters were filled with the holy spirit? No one.

You need to go back and try to sort the argument out, and exactly what was claimed by the op and myself.
 
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16 One day, when we were on the way to the place for prayer, we met a slave woman. She had a spirit that enabled her to predict the future. She made a lot of money for her owners through fortune-telling. 17 She began following Paul and us, shouting, “These people are servants of the Most High God! They are proclaiming a way of salvation to you!” 18 She did this for many days.

This annoyed Paul so much that he finally turned and said to the spirit, “In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave her!” It left her at that very moment.

19 Her owners realized that their hope for making money was gone. They grabbed Paul and Silas and dragged them before the officials in the city center. 20 When her owners approached the legal authorities, they said, “These people are causing an uproar in our city. They are Jews 21 who promote customs that we Romans can’t accept or practice.” 22 The crowd joined in the attacks against Paul and Silas, so the authorities ordered that they be stripped of their clothes and beaten with a rod. 23 When Paul and Silas had been severely beaten, the authorities threw them into prison and ordered the jailer to secure them with great care. 24 When he received these instructions, he threw them into the innermost cell and secured their feet in stocks.

There is nothing in the text that says she was drawing people to them to hear the gospel. Since Paul got "annoyed", I would understand it that she was keeping people away from them. Neither of us were there, both of our opinions are arguments from silence, thus it can not be proven either way. We do not know how much time passed for example between verses 18 and 19, nor do we know if the crowd later in the text was present when the demon was cast out. Thank You for your kind opinion. Daniel
I agree with you that we can't know with certainty. But I think the crowds reaction shows how much the region regarded her. Her position and ability, which is made manifest in the crowds reaction, would logically have driven their attention to Paul.

There are many places where we have to do our best with a verse and I hope that I am accomplishing that. I think it best explains the facts we know in this section. Thank you as well.
 
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Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

This is not to discount that the Holy Spirit can do unusual things, however before we put a stamp of approval on a practice to be a normality instead of the unusual, we need to see if it is promoted as such in the Scriptures.

We do not see any of this practiced or even hinted in the Scripture. When the Spirit came upon Jesus at His baptism He came up out of the water; He didn’t collapse and sink down! The Lord Jesus had power to heal even the worst cases of disease, blindness and crippled limbs, and yet no one who Jesus ever touched fell over “slain.”

Nor do we find Peter or John touching people and causing them to fall over. They did not ask other disciples to stand behind those they were going to lay hands on, to catch them as they toppled backward by the power. The New Testament has no people lining up waiting for the “anointing” to be passed on from another, not even the Apostles.

Can you picture any of the Apostles running up to people and slapping them on the forehead, or lining people up to be slain? No soft music or repetitive choruses were sung to set an atmosphere for the anointing to fall. No one yelled repetitive phrases like, “Fire!” or “touch” or “More, Lord!” So where does this all come from ?

Those who advocate this practice need to consider what they are really attributing to the Holy Spirit. There is no Biblical precedent for being “slain in the Spirit” as we see practiced today.
 
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People often tend to favor fooling themselves, if in so doing they can earn status and wealth. At best there's an uncomfortable mix of deception and faith at work with Mr Hinn in my opinion. In any case, born again or not, we're called to love him.

We are also called to make righteous judgments as all who claim to be something are not anything at all.
 
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The first time I looked I almost thought this thread was about the late, great Benny Hill. I noticed that it said Benny Hinn when I read the title a second time.

Some would say there is little difference, with the exception one is a charlatan and the other is at least honest about what he does.
 
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This is not to discount that the Holy Spirit can do unusual things, however before we put a stamp of approval on a practice to be a normality instead of the unusual, we need to see if it is promoted as such in the Scriptures.

We do not see any of this practiced or even hinted in the Scripture. When the Spirit came upon Jesus at His baptism He came up out of the water; He didn’t collapse and sink down! The Lord Jesus had power to heal even the worst cases of disease, blindness and crippled limbs, and yet no one who Jesus ever touched fell over “slain.”

Nor do we find Peter or John touching people and causing them to fall over. They did not ask other disciples to stand behind those they were going to lay hands on, to catch them as they toppled backward by the power. The New Testament has no people lining up waiting for the “anointing” to be passed on from another, not even the Apostles.

Can you picture any of the Apostles running up to people and slapping them on the forehead, or lining people up to be slain? No soft music or repetitive choruses were sung to set an atmosphere for the anointing to fall. No one yelled repetitive phrases like, “Fire!” or “touch” or “More, Lord!” So where does this all come from ?

Those who advocate this practice need to consider what they are really attributing to the Holy Spirit. There is no Biblical precedent for being “slain in the Spirit” as we see practiced today.

Exactly, the slain or falling down or whatever, creates an illusion something is happening. There is no healing whatsoever going on, but there is something that can actually be seen to make it appear so, and it does fool some people. I suppose they wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't at least working well enough to pay their very costly bills.
 
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Exactly, the slain or falling down or whatever, creates an illusion something is happening. There is no healing whatsoever going on, but there is something that can actually be seen to make it appear so, and it does fool some people. I suppose they wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't at least working well enough to pay their very costly bills.

Correct!

It is EMOTIONALISM!

People get caught up in the illusion and expectations of something wonderful is taking place and the mind actually follows through and makes it happen.

But of course it is all make believe and when the adrenaline and rush comes down, the cancer and pain and suffering is still there.

Here is an excellent question to ask those who believe in healings done by men.

Why are those "Healing" services done in large auditoriums and Stadiums and advertised in advance.

Does the Holy Spirit only work when there is an audience????

Now the real question is this. IF a man had the gift of healing people physically, why would he be in a Football Stadium instead of the cancer ward of the local hospital.
In fact IF there was such an individual, WHY would there even be anyone in a cancer ward????????
 
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Exactly, the slain or falling down or whatever, creates an illusion something is happening. There is no healing whatsoever going on, but there is something that can actually be seen to make it appear so, and it does fool some people. I suppose they wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't at least working well enough to pay their very costly bills.

It is done because of what P.T. Barnum discovered a 100 years ago..........
"There's a sucker born every minute".
 
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It might be worth you reading Galatians chapter 1

Thank you for the advice. I did go back and reread it. I‘m not sure what your point is. If it has to do with the gospel Paul preached, I agree we should not deviated from what Paul preached. We still have a problem here that needs to be addressed, which interpretation of what Paul preached should we accept?


My example;


1 Corinthians chapters 12,13 &14, do we go with the interpretation this has all been done away with or the interpretation that it is still for us today?


If I missed your intended point please clarify.
 
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Thank you for the advice. I did go back and reread it. I‘m not sure what your point is. If it has to do with the gospel Paul preached, I agree we should not deviated from what Paul preached. We still have a problem here that needs to be addressed, which interpretation of what Paul preached should we accept?


My example;


1 Corinthians chapters 12,13 &14, do we go with the interpretation this has all been done away with or the interpretation that it is still for us today?


If I missed your intended point please clarify.
NO! Why do we have so many differing doctrines? Are 99% wrong and only 1 has it right? I doubt it.

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
 
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NO! Why do we have so many differing doctrines? Are 99% wrong and only 1 has it right? I doubt it.

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
You didn't address my point!
 
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