The Swastika and Ankh, two religious symbols turn bad

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Ankh is an ancient Egyptian symbol of life. It looks like a cross where a lot of historians and non believers say is where Christians get the idea of crosses and Jesus dying on it . People who never heard of the Roman Empire or Julius Caesar or Crucification or how Romans did it.

The swastika sign (卐) – a symbol of Buddhism or Nazism?



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Yet both were misused. The Nazis turned the Swastika into a symbol of hate and war and racism forming their own caste systems.
The Romans turn the Egyptian symbol of life into death.

How is that possible?
 

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Ankh is an ancient Egyptian symbol of life. It looks like a cross where a lot of historians and non believers say is where Christians get the idea of crosses and Jesus dying on it . People who never heard of the Roman Empire or Julius Caesar or Crucification or how Romans did it.

The swastika sign (卐) – a symbol of Buddhism or Nazism?



Ankh - Wikipedia


Yet both were misused. The Nazis turned the Swastika into a symbol of hate and war and racism forming their own caste systems.
The Romans turn the Egyptian symbol of life into death.

How is that possible?
There's probably more to be said about this, but the cross was definitely not the ankh simply revived.

We know for a fact that the Romans used several versions of crosses and did so because of shape of the human body and their idea of putting criminals on display, among other considerations. Some of them didn't really look much like ankhs at all.

And as for the swastika, the German version also is different in appearance from the Buddhist one in several ways. But people usually don't notice the difference. Incidentally, you also said that the swastika in the Nazi version was a symbol of hate and war. It wasn't. It was a symbol of life and power among other things, but we associate it with hate and war because that's what the Nazi regime that we identify with the swastika is remembered by us for having done. If Hitler had preferred the four pointed star or the all-seeing eye, we would now think of them as representing hate and war.
 
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My church used to rent an old Presbyterian church building for its Sunday service and this building was so old ("how old was it tulc?")it was so old it had various symbols carved into the tiles decorating the floor and among those symbols were swastikas, it predated the rise of the Nazis and must have been a little embarrassing during WWII to have Church in there. Here's the exterior of it with a (very brief) history
Uptown Chicago History: Buena Memorial Presbyterian Church, Buena Park, Uptown Chicago
and here: Crews salvage Windows to History - King Richard's Religious Antiques
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tulc(remember thinking "that's a weird place to find a swastika.") :scratch:
 
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Ankh is an ancient Egyptian symbol of life. It looks like a cross where a lot of historians and non believers say is where Christians get the idea of crosses and Jesus dying on it . People who never heard of the Roman Empire or Julius Caesar or Crucification or how Romans did it.
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There's probably more to be said about this, but the cross was definitely not the ankh simply revived.

We know for a fact that the Romans used several versions of crosses and did so because of shape of the human body and their idea of putting criminals on display, among other considerations. Some of them didn't really look much like ankhs at all.

And as for the swastika, the German version also is different in appearance from the Buddhist one in several ways. But people usually don't notice the difference. Incidentally, you also said that the swastika in the Nazi version was a symbol of hate and war. It wasn't. It was a symbol of life and power among other things, but we associate it with hate and war because that's what the Nazi regime that we identify with the swastika is remembered by us for having done. If Hitler had preferred the four pointed star or the all-seeing eye, we would now think of them as representing hate and war.

The swastika sign (卐) – a symbol of Buddhism or Nazism?



Ankh - Wikipedia


Yet both were misused. The Nazis turned the Swastika into a symbol of hate and war and racism forming their own caste systems.
The Romans turn the Egyptian symbol of life into death.

How is that possible?
Or I guess maybe we'd be building thungs in the shape of pyramids as well.

Weren't the Nazi's against books and art to a degree? It makes sense then, why not associate everything with ill will or intentions. I suppose life is a looking glass that reflects what the viewer most deeply wants to see.
 
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It is my understanding that the swastika was an ancient North American Indian symbol of the sun. There is a town in Ontario Canada by that name as well. Over the years the residents have stubbornly resisted all attempts to change the name.
 
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It is my understanding that the swastika was an ancient North American Indian symbol of the sun. There is a town in Ontario Canada by that name as well. Over the years the residents have stubbornly resisted all attempts to change the name.
Why not a circle or something? Does a trees branches go further then it's roots?
 

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It is my understanding that the swastika was an ancient North American Indian symbol of the sun. There is a town in Ontario Canada by that name as well. Over the years the residents have stubbornly resisted all attempts to change the name.
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