Now wait just a minute! This changes everything.

Nithavela · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
You gotta understand the problem. When (not if) the Dreamers get their amnesty the floodgates will be opened. Mexicans will launch their babies into this country with catapults if necessary.

I think that this alone would be worth it.

I hope the wall will have webcams.

Favourofone · Jan 13, 2018

Enfeoffment75 said:
Imagine if that happened to you.

Deport every non Indian ?

OldWiseGuy · Jan 13, 2018

Nithavela said:
I think that this alone would be worth it.

I hope the wall will have webcams.

That is a hoot! Thanks.

brinny · Jan 13, 2018

Enfeoffment75 said:
You should remember that as a Christian you should always do unto others as you would have them do to you.

This young woman is for all intents and purposes a 100% American who did NOTHING ILLEGAL herself and she is facing being kicked out of her home for NO REASON.

If you say "amen" for that then surely you hope that will happen to you one day!

Is she a legal citizen of the United States?

Enfeoffment75 · Jan 13, 2018

brinny said:
Is she a legal citizen of the United States?

Did she cross the border of her own will?

Like I said, if you think it is good that someone who did not, herself, commit any crime to get her gets booted out of the country then let us pray that one day you, too, will be punished for a crime in which you did nothing wrong yourself.

It is what Jesus commands you do!

Enfeoffment75 · Jan 13, 2018

Favourofone said:
Deport every non Indian ?

YES! A thousand times yes!

Native Americans need to deport every single one of us. We stole their land. Even though we (today) didn't do it, but we are just as illegitimate.

OldWiseGuy · Jan 13, 2018

Enfeoffment75 said:
Did she cross the border of her own will?

It would be interesting to know when each of these dreamers was made aware that they are illegally in the U.S. At that point they are responsible for their illegal status.

It would be like being made aware that something given to you was actually stolen property. Keeping it, while knowing who it belongs to, makes you a thief.

brinny · Jan 13, 2018

brinny said: ↑
Is she a legal citizen of the United States?

Enfeoffment75 said:
Did she cross the border of her own will?

Like I said, if you think it is good that someone who did not, herself, commit any crime to get her gets booted out of the country then let us pray that one day you, too, will be punished for a crime in which you did nothing wrong yourself.

It is what Jesus commands you do!

Again, is she a legal citizen of the United States?

brinny · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
It would be interesting to know when each of these dreamers was made aware that they are illegally in the U.S. At that point they are responsible for their illegal status.

Exactly.

Enfeoffment75 · Jan 13, 2018

brinny said:
Again, is she a legal citizen of the United States?

Do you believe Jesus was a real person?

Hank77 · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
I almost fell off my chair yesterday when a Latina "dreamer" being interviewed said that while she considered the U.S. her country and wanted to remain here that she would emigrate if forced to do so.

What she said next stunned me. She was a graduate medical student and revealed quite confidently that many other countries would be happy to have her, among those mentioned was Canada (which is known for liberal immigration policies).

I have been led to believe by the media and "dreamer" advocates that she and others would be sent to the third world country of their parents origin to live in hopeless squalor for the rest of their lives.

Who knew that other developed countries would welcome them with open arms, giving them nearly the same opportunities that they have enjoyed in the U.S.

I think Trump should reveal this fact. Perhaps it would change the tenor of the whole debate.

Can you explain to me why we would want these highly trained people to leave; it's not as if we don't need more medical doctors especially? They have gotten their education here, sometimes taking that opening from a US citizen, and getting loans from US banks to fund their education.

But then you have those who are still in junior high and high school and those who have only a high school education. Where do you think they will end up? Some of them only speak English. All of them have lived here since they were young children, how do you think they will fare in third world cultures?

Hank77 · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
You gotta understand the problem. When (not if) the Dreamers get their amnesty the floodgates will be opened. Mexicans will launch their babies into this country with catapults if necessary.

No, the Dreamer Act does not include newer arrivals and you know this.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Jan 13, 2018

Nithavela said:

Best explanation I have heard yet. Pertaining to what? Who cares, it's still more feasible than anything heard yet. lol

Halbhh · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
I almost fell off my chair yesterday when a Latina "dreamer" being interviewed said that while she considered the U.S. her country and wanted to remain here that she would emigrate if forced to do so.

What she said next stunned me. She was a graduate medical student and revealed quite confidently that many other countries would be happy to have her, among those mentioned was Canada (which is known for liberal immigration policies).

I have been led to believe by the media and "dreamer" advocates that she and others would be sent to the third world country of their parents origin to live in hopeless squalor for the rest of their lives.

Who knew that other developed countries would welcome them with open arms, giving them nearly the same opportunities that they have enjoyed in the U.S.

I think Trump should reveal this fact. Perhaps it would change the tenor of the whole debate.

Why deport her?

Why?

Are our own ancestors who immigrated here more....? What? More deserving?

brinny · Jan 13, 2018

brinny said: ↑
Again, is she a legal citizen of the United States?

Enfeoffment75 said:
Do you believe Jesus was a real person?

Nice dodge.

Again.

Start a thread on that off-topic question you stuck in there, and i'll respond.

In the meantime, respond to the question i asked at least twice that you have repeatedly avoided.

Thank you kindly.

OldWiseGuy · Jan 13, 2018

Halbhh said:
Why deport her?

Why?

Are our own ancestors who immigrated here more....? What? More deserving?

Why turn people, who have no tickets, away from a theatre if there are empty seats.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
Why turn people away from a packed theatre when there is still standing room.

Now that's logic.

OldWiseGuy · Jan 13, 2018

~Cassia~ said:
Now that's logic.

I actually changed it slightly.

Why turn people, who have no tickets, away from a theatre if there are empty seats.

OldWiseGuy · Jan 13, 2018

Immigration laws do not conflict with the teachings of Jesus.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Jan 13, 2018

OldWiseGuy said:
I actually changed it slightly.

Why turn people, who have no tickets, away from a theatre if there are empty seats.

Well in accord with the whole thing I think the Trump wolf gets too much feeding.

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