Yahshua is our Messiah's name

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Different groups have different things to say. Did you know that the worst students of ancient Hebrew, are the ones who already speak Hebrew? It seems that they can not get it out of their head that the language has changed over the years. Are you a professor of ancient Hebrew?


Do not over-rate Professors - they are simply the heads of University Departments. They do not even have to hold a Doctorate! A Professor is granted a 'Chair' in a particular discipline which makes him / her the head of that Department - that is all it represents, oh and probably a pay rise! They might be expected to write some books and papers and speak at conferences, but many others can do that without the title of Professor.

It also depends on where you are in the world - I was an Academic Tutor but people in some countries whose work I marked, seeing my qualifications, referred to me as Professor, though I do not hold a Doctorate, nor have I been granted a 'Chair' in anything. It has many different meanings.
 
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The consensus on this topic is not particularly varied outside of the occasional fringe theory.



Aramaic languages are my area of study and what I've taught. Galilean/Jewish Palestinian Aramaic is my focus.

I have research-level proficiency in Classical and Ancient Hebrew, but I do not teach it.

Any comments about this?

By not pronouncing his name correctly, this piece of scripture would go unnoticed.

Exodus 23:21
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
Yah / wah and Yah / Shua

John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
Yah / Shua
Yah /Wah

Yah short form

Yah (Hebrew: יהּ‎‎ Yah) is a short form of Yahwah (in consonantal spelling YHWH Hebrew: יהוה‎‎, called the Tetragrammaton), the proper name of God in the Hebrew Bible. This short form of the name occues 50 times in the text of the Hebrew Bible, of which 24 form part of the phrase "Halleluyah".
 
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Theophoric names with "Yeho" prefixes have corresponding forms where the letters "eh"' have been omitted. There is a theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ) into Jo (יוֹ), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name. With the Tetragrammaton, some theophoric names begin with the first two consonants, other names take only the first and the third letters from the Tetragrammaton and build them into the syllable "yo" at the beginning of a name (Yoab, Yoram, Yoyakim, Yoel, Yonathan).
 
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An example of retaining only one letter of the Tetragrammaton is the Hebrew name Yeshu [ישו], rendered into Greek as "Jesus." This is a short form of Yeshua [ישוע] that is itself a short form of Yehoshua [יהושע]. Even the one letter (yod) in the Tetragrammaton can represent the name Yah.


Yahwah
A note on the words hawah and hayah.


Quote from pages 217 and 218 of the Brown-Driver-Briggs. Ref # 3068-69 on page 217.
Brown-Driver-Briggs on page 218 states that, "Many recent scholars explain יהוה‎ as Hiph. of הוה equals היה "

הוה hawah / HWH is hawah.
היה hayah / HYH is hayah.


Note that the vowels are all " a."
יהוה Yahwah


The vowels are "a" in the Brown-Driver-Briggs, the NIV Exhaustive Concordance, and the Strong's Exhaustive Concordances.
 
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Would you please cut it out with the Gish Gallops?

By not pronouncing his name correctly, this piece of scripture would go unnoticed.

These verses have literally nothing to do with pronunciation.


Note the "e" vowels. That's what the η in the Greek represents. :)

The vowels are "a" in the Brown-Driver-Briggs, the NIV Exhaustive Concordance, and the Strong's Exhaustive Concordances.

These are what are called lemma forms. When you look up "running" in an English dictionary, you look up the form "to run" because the English lemma form is the Infinitive.

In Hebrew and Aramaic, the lemma form is the Imperfect 3rd person singular. The actual inflected forms have different vowels.

For example: The Hiphil stem, in the Imperfect form, is a-i, not a-a, which would make hayah into yahwih.

Examples that corroborate this:
 
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Would you please cut it out with the Gish Gallops?



These verses have literally nothing to do with pronunciation.



Note the "e" vowels. That's what the η in the Greek represents. :)



These are what are called lemma forms. When you look up "running" in an English dictionary, you look up the form "to run" because the English lemma form is the Infinitive.

In Hebrew and Aramaic, the lemma form is the Imperfect 3rd person singular. The actual inflected forms have different vowels.

For example: The Hiphil stem, in the Imperfect form, is a-i, not a-a, which would make hayah into yahwih.

Examples that corroborate this:
That is correct, if you are going according to the Hellenistic Jews and Greeks. Do you really think ancient Hebrew went by modern day Hebrew grammar rules?

What do you think the vowels are in ancient Aramaic for Yah and Wah?
 
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That is correct, if you are going according to the Hellenistic Jews and Greeks. Do you really think ancient Hebrew went by modern day Hebrew grammar rules?

What do you think the vowels are in ancient Aramaic for Yah and Wah?

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For those who do not know this, it was the Hellenistic Jews that took over the priesthood and the temple; along with the nation Israel in 167 BC to 133 AD. They are the one who changed the language, and they are the ones who had Christ killed.
 
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For those who do not know this, it was the Hellenistic Jews that took over the priesthood and the temple; along with the nation Israel in 167 BC to 133 AD. They are the one who changed the language, and they are the ones who had Christ killed.

There is zero evidence for a conspiracy.

And "the priesthood" had zero influence over Galilean Aramaic – which Christ spoke, and which certainly had e-class vowels in the name Yeshua.
 
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There is zero evidence for a conspiracy.

And "the priesthood" had zero influence over Galilean Aramaic – which Christ spoke, and which certainly had e-class vowels in the name Yeshua.
God says that there was a conspiracy.
Jeremiah 11:9
Then the Lord said to me, “There is a conspiracy among the people of Judah and those who live in Jerusalem.
 
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God says that there was a conspiracy.
Jeremiah 11:9
Then the Lord said to me, “There is a conspiracy among the people of Judah and those who live in Jerusalem.


That has nothing to do with language - it is shown best, in my opinion, in Ezekiel Ch. 8 which shows how they conspired to trick G_d, paying lip service to him, but worshipping other gods in his house. It is part of the reason they were sent into exile.
 
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That has nothing to do with language - it is shown best, in my opinion, in Ezekiel Ch. 8 which shows how they conspired to trick G_d, paying lip service to him, but worshipping other gods in his house. It is part of the reason they were sent into exile.
The passage is about Jeremiah's time and beyond. It has two different aspects to it.


Isaiah 53:7

He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

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Jeremiah 11:19

I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.”

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Acts 8:32

This is the passage of Scripture the eunuch was reading: “He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before its shearer is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

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