Too Late for Love?

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Hello everyone. I have been in a struggle with self-esteem issues for the past year, and my singleness has been part of my problem. Marriage and family are not my highest priorities in life at the moment, having just started grad school and its not that easy to have a romantic relationship at the moment, but I am jaded about never having success with the ladies. Most of the time when I have asked out women, they were uninterested (maybe in me???) or they got creeped out, as if the entire male race is stupid and dirty. Some I have come close to turning into romance, but of course, failed. For example, The first girl that was serious about me I passed on after 2 years of being friends because at the time (high school) she seemed to lacked maturity, being two years younger than me, and at the time I was about to start college, so I needed to move on. Another big embarrassment came when I met this girl through one of my classes. We struck a close friendship, sharing classes and sweet texts throughout my first two years of college, but then at a later time when I asked her out I found out she had a BF. I have never been able to get over this embarrassment :( I also left my church of two years partly because I was uncomfortable with the largely female congregation, who were touchy and easily offended. Its as if the women just hate me or close their doors to all relationships. Now I constantly fear of saying the wrong thing in front of women and have a hard time making eye contact with girls. I now do my best to stay away from girls mixed groups; they just seem to be something that just can’t be reached with a 10 ft pole. I believe in various misconceptions about women, like they only date and marry men because they HAVE to. I feel pressured to marry being the last person in my family that can pass on my last name. Watching my friends stay in happy relationships in marriage has always been something disgusts me. I constantly feel like I have a hole to fill up, and various sins have resurfaced in my life, like lusting after women on the internet. However, I do feel like I have admirable qualities. I am striving to be my own person to avoid feeling like I need a GF, and people frequently comment on my positive attitude, vulnerability, respectfulness, my numerous attempts to make people feel loved, and generosity with others. I have no problems with communication or making friends, and hold a wide variety of interests, from sports, the great outdoors, to loving God. I have discussed this same topic on several forums, and these feelings have lessened through Christian counseling, but they can’t disappear like magic. How can I find friendships with women without coming on too strong? Is finding love just a fairy tale for me? How can I fill up the hole in my life with God? Since my last potential date ended in failure and most of my close friends graduate and move away did I miss my last dating opportunity?
 
  • Prayers
Reactions: gennypearl

Basil the Great

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Mar 9, 2009
4,766
4,085
✟721,243.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
Matthew, the good news for you is that most people do eventually find someone to marry, though a few of us, like myself, are unsuccessful. I am sure that there are a long list of recommendations that people can give you that may or may not help. I did have a few kind friends who set me up on some blind dates. While none of them were successful, they certainly could have been. I have heard of cases where such does work. A lot of people end up marrying someone that they meet at work. That could still easily happen to you. The bottom line is that unless someone is a knockout or has a really magnetic personality or is rich and/or famous, then much of it boils down to simply meeting the right person at the right time. Do not give up. Try and stay positive, as that is important. A lot of people say that women like guys with a sense of humor, something I was never too good at. There is no one magic bullet that works for everyone. I wish you well. God bless you.
 
Upvote 0

Servant68

Sleepless 300 miles from Seattle
Jun 30, 2015
1,470
1,509
The Pacific Northwest
✟73,203.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
You're 22 years old; it's not too late for anything. Well, other than potty training... I'm twice your age with a lot of the same issues and concerns and it's not too late for me. At least I hope not...
 
Upvote 0

Basil the Great

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Mar 9, 2009
4,766
4,085
✟721,243.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
I also noticed the age 22, but wondered if it was a typo mistake. If 22 is correct, all the more reason for you to breathe deeply and not let this matter bother you quite so much. Now this is not to say that we do not feel for you, but age 22 is relatively young. God willing, you have a lot of years left to hunt for the right gal.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

NurseAbigail

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Sep 27, 2017
1,074
1,611
NC
✟48,325.00
Country
United States
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Private
There's different kinds of women out there
...even I am afraid of my own specie sometimes... lol...had various convo with my female friends which shows to prove that different women have different tastes in men...

Me: He jokes a lot, he is so funny!:hearteyes:
Girl friend 1: You like that? I don't like men who joke a lot, kinda creepy.:neutral:
Me: :sigh:

Girl friend 2: Look at this pic! Isn't he soo dreamy! *shows pic of actor
Me: He's cute...he has a baby face though :/, needs some scruff!
Another Girl friend: :doh:

Girl friend 3: Hrrrmm...why is it so hard to find a tall bald man...
Me: ermmm...hang on, you lost me there...bald man??!!!
Girl friend 3: So when i go inside the club, he'll look like a bouncer...you know, tall, broad shoulders, bald head...muscular, makes me feel safe...
Me: hahahaha, good point!

At a restaurant...big group of friends from class...*Tall, skinny, ponytailed hair waiter comes by table, introduces himself, as he walks away...
Girl friend 4: oooh, he's cute!
Me: he looks okay
*Girl friend 4 goes to restroom for a bit, while she's gone, one of the girls at table whispers...
"She thinks he is cute? Didn't think guys like that was her type."

Out shopping once...
Girl friend 5: look at her, she's so lucky, her bf is holding her bag while she shops, ugh my bf always rushes me, but when i'm with him i don't complain.
Me: aw :(

At work...there's a certain short indian Dr. that majority the women there have a crush on...
Female coworker: Dr... he is so handsome and sweet!
Me: yeah, lol, hey, what about Dr....
Female coworker: he is...but he's got that bald thing going on...
Me: :pensive:

One time, a random surgeon came up the floor, buff dude, very polite, he stood by hallway...
Coworker: mmmmm, look at that!
Coworker 2: sooo hot!
Coworker: i wish other surgeons were like him.
Me: you guys are cray cray, checking him out hahaha

And there are those gorgeous women who are in abusive relationships,
Me: you should leave him! *sees bruises on her arms
Girl friend 6: I told the cops. *starts to change subject
Me: leave now while you can! Block him, go somewhere safe.

Another girl friend: I'm afraid to leave him, i feel like no one will like me. I'm at that point in my life where I'm content.
Me: but can you see yourself being with him in the long run? Being like this? Seems like he values the gym more than you.
Another girl friend: yeah, i know.
*Eventually, the guy cheated on her and they broke up.

Girl friend 7: Education is important, don't settle for someone who doesn't have a plan for the future.
Me: true, and maybe check credit report?
Girl friend 7: yesss!
Me: *googles where to find rich men

And there's the girl who has same bf for years, but breaks up with him because falls in love with the guy she had a crush on sometime in the past when she was in middleschool. :doh:

Me: he is so sweet, he said....
Girl friend 8: hrrrmmm...guys who sweet talk too much, you have to be careful...
Me: ermmm...but why?
Girl friend 8: those tend to hide something...bad things...
Me: le sigh....

Girl friend 9: He sounds like a good guy.
Me: He was too quiet! I tried starting a conversation, he just would give one word answers.
Girl friend 9: but he's responsible?
Me: yeah, a gentleman, although he seems to be in a different world sometimes one that involves coffee and guitars.
Girl friend 9: hrrrmmmm....

Me: Look for a Christian man. The best guys are the ones who love God...
Girl friend 10: Don't tell me that, i just had a one night stand with a pastor's son!
Me: O__o

And there are the quiet women, observers, we watch from a distance, we wait for the right person, we dress appropriately, avoid unnecessary flirtations, collect cat memes...lol

Anyways...my point is...there's a vast sea of women out there, and you may not know it, but there might be someone in your circle or future circle who fancies you so don't worry about it now, you're still young. Learn as you go. Trust God's timing.
 
Upvote 0

Travelers.Soul

Traveler; Dreamer; Warrior; Coffee lover
Aug 15, 2010
6,510
8,662
Land of the Horse
✟132,318.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Single
And there are the quiet women, observers, we watch from a distance, we wait for the right person, we dress appropriately, avoid unnecessary flirtations, collect cat memes...lol

We are the best. hahahaha.


Seriously though, to the OP you're young. Don't give up hope there is time enough for love and at your age there is plenty of time.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Matthew, the good news for you is that most people do eventually find someone to marry, though a few of us, like myself, are unsuccessful. I am sure that there are a long list of recommendations that people can give you that may or may not help. I did have a few kind friends who set me up on some blind dates. While none of them were successful, they certainly could have been. I have heard of cases where such does work. A lot of people end up marrying someone that they meet at work. That could still easily happen to you. The bottom line is that unless someone is a knockout or has a really magnetic personality or is rich and/or famous, then much of it boils down to simply meeting the right person at the right time. Do not give up. Try and stay positive, as that is important. A lot of people say that women like guys with a sense of humor, something I was never too good at. There is no one magic bullet that works for everyone. I wish you well. God bless you.
Thank you for your response. Praise God that its in God’s timing! :) And thank God there’s still plenty of time, I guess I just gave into cultural pressure from friends and family to step into a relationship against God’s will. Thanks for taking the time for typing your response!!
 
Upvote 0

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
There's different kinds of women out there
...even I am afraid of my own specie sometimes... lol...had various convo with my female friends which shows to prove that different women have different tastes in men...

Me: He jokes a lot, he is so funny!:hearteyes:
Girl friend 1: You like that? I don't like men who joke a lot, kinda creepy.:neutral:
Me: :sigh:

Girl friend 2: Look at this pic! Isn't he soo dreamy! *shows pic of actor
Me: He's cute...he has a baby face though :/, needs some scruff!
Another Girl friend: :doh:

Girl friend 3: Hrrrmm...why is it so hard to find a tall bald man...
Me: ermmm...hang on, you lost me there...bald man??!!!
Girl friend 3: So when i go inside the club, he'll look like a bouncer...you know, tall, broad shoulders, bald head...muscular, makes me feel safe...
Me: hahahaha, good point!

At a restaurant...big group of friends from class...*Tall, skinny, ponytailed hair waiter comes by table, introduces himself, as he walks away...
Girl friend 4: oooh, he's cute!
Me: he looks okay
*Girl friend 4 goes to restroom for a bit, while she's gone, one of the girls at table whispers...
"She thinks he is cute? Didn't think guys like that was her type."

Out shopping once...
Girl friend 5: look at her, she's so lucky, her bf is holding her bag while she shops, ugh my bf always rushes me, but when i'm with him i don't complain.
Me: aw :(

At work...there's a certain short indian Dr. that majority the women there have a crush on...
Female coworker: Dr... he is so handsome and sweet!
Me: yeah, lol, hey, what about Dr....
Female coworker: he is...but he's got that bald thing going on...
Me: :pensive:

One time, a random surgeon came up the floor, buff dude, very polite, he stood by hallway...
Coworker: mmmmm, look at that!
Coworker 2: sooo hot!
Coworker: i wish other surgeons were like him.
Me: you guys are cray cray, checking him out hahaha

And there are those gorgeous women who are in abusive relationships,
Me: you should leave him! *sees bruises on her arms
Girl friend 6: I told the cops. *starts to change subject
Me: leave now while you can! Block him, go somewhere safe.

Another girl friend: I'm afraid to leave him, i feel like no one will like me. I'm at that point in my life where I'm content.
Me: but can you see yourself being with him in the long run? Being like this? Seems like he values the gym more than you.
Another girl friend: yeah, i know.
*Eventually, the guy cheated on her and they broke up.

Girl friend 7: Education is important, don't settle for someone who doesn't have a plan for the future.
Me: true, and maybe check credit report?
Girl friend 7: yesss!
Me: *googles where to find rich men

And there's the girl who has same bf for years, but breaks up with him because falls in love with the guy she had a crush on sometime in the past when she was in middleschool. :doh:

Me: he is so sweet, he said....
Girl friend 8: hrrrmmm...guys who sweet talk too much, you have to be careful...
Me: ermmm...but why?
Girl friend 8: those tend to hide something...bad things...
Me: le sigh....

Girl friend 9: He sounds like a good guy.
Me: He was too quiet! I tried starting a conversation, he just would give one word answers.
Girl friend 9: but he's responsible?
Me: yeah, a gentleman, although he seems to be in a different world sometimes one that involves coffee and guitars.
Girl friend 9: hrrrmmmm....

Me: Look for a Christian man. The best guys are the ones who love God...
Girl friend 10: Don't tell me that, i just had a one night stand with a pastor's son!
Me: O__o

And there are the quiet women, observers, we watch from a distance, we wait for the right person, we dress appropriately, avoid unnecessary flirtations, collect cat memes...lol

Anyways...my point is...there's a vast sea of women out there, and you may not know it, but there might be someone in your circle or future circle who fancies you so don't worry about it now, you're still young. Learn as you go. Trust God's timing.
I love your humorous take on the different tastes of women! :p Thank you for taking the time to make my day! You’re awesome.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NurseAbigail
Upvote 0

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
You're 22 years old; it's not too late for anything. Well, other than potty training... I'm twice your age with a lot of the same issues and concerns and it's not too late for me. At least I hope not...
Thanks @Servant68 Im in the same boat, I’m constantly learning as I go along in this crazy thing called life, but as a college student at least I’m re learning what busy means haha
 
Upvote 0

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Gnarwhal

☩ Broman Catholic ☩
Oct 31, 2008
20,391
12,081
36
N/A
✟425,930.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Libertarian
You're 22 years old; it's not too late for anything. Well, other than potty training... I'm twice your age with a lot of the same issues and concerns and it's not too late for me. At least I hope not...

Agree 100%.

Actually, I think it's foolish to be in relationships before you're 25 because the mind's still developing up until that point, so time spent in a relationship before that age can be problematic because of how much people change. I've seen it cause more problems than positively affecting a relationship.

I have a friend who's 11 years older than me, and when I was 22 and he was 33, I introduced him to his wife. She became the only real girlfriend he ever had, and they got married about four years after they met.

So no, it's not too late. Tis a silly question to ask, really. People enter into relationships at very late stages in life, widows and widowers meet in grief counseling and end up marrying each other in their 60s.

You know what would be best for you to do? Meet with a counselor. I'm not suggesting this because I think you have a problem, but I think everyone benefits from counseling sessions regardless of their mental and emotional state. We learn a lot about ourselves and our own behavior when we sit down for regular counseling, and that can inform what we understand about our relationships or lack thereof, which gives us an opportunity to grow and evolve and become the kind of person the opposite sex wants to date.
 
Upvote 0

Matthew Frazier

Imma Jesus Freak baby ;D
Dec 6, 2017
137
84
29
Texas
✟32,446.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Agree 100%.

Actually, I think it's foolish to be in relationships before you're 25 because the mind's still developing up until that point, so time spent in a relationship before that age can be problematic because of how much people change. I've seen it cause more problems than positively affecting a relationship.

I have a friend who's 11 years older than me, and when I was 22 and he was 33, I introduced him to his wife. She became the only real girlfriend he ever had, and they got married about four years after they met.

So no, it's not too late. Tis a silly question to ask, really. People enter into relationships at very late stages in life, widows and widowers meet in grief counseling and end up marrying each other in their 60s.

You know what would be best for you to do? Meet with a counselor. I'm not suggesting this because I think you have a problem, but I think everyone benefits from counseling sessions regardless of their mental and emotional state. We learn a lot about ourselves and our own behavior when we sit down for regular counseling, and that can inform what we understand about our relationships or lack thereof, which gives us an opportunity to grow and evolve and become the kind of person the opposite sex wants to date.
Thank you very much! This is what I need to see. I’ve felt very inadequate about my situation for many years because of pressure by my peers to date, and it seemed like an obligation after the death of my uncle, leaving me as the only person with my last name to pass it on to my kids. But you are absolutely right, it is silly to worry about these questions; the showy people who have shamed me for being single need to buzz off ;) I’m definitely glad I’m not dating, I still feel like I’m a work in progress before I make major commitments. Thankfully I am currently seeing a counselor, who has given me useful support such as your reply and has helped worked out my self esteem. I’m seeing very similar advice to what my counselor told me so I’m seeing a very encouraging trend! :) All in God’s timing
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gnarwhal
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums