The Psychology of the Devil.

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You need to know who Jesus really is, because the wrong Jesus can't save you. He isn't just man or a created being. John says the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not. How could the world have been made by Him if He never existed before He was born?
And John the Baptist said that Jesus was preferred before him, because He was before Him. Well Jesus was born after John the Baptist, not before. So what did he mean? He spoke of His pre-existence. Jesus' pre-existence is all over the Bible.
 
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It's such an important thing that people know who Jesus is! And that's precisely why I started this thread. The point of this thread is that the devil wants people to believe anything but the truth about Jesus. Because he knows that Jesus is the only Redeemer. Jesus said, "If ye believe not that I am He, ye shall die in your sins." And of course if you die in your sins, that means that you go into everlasting punishment. Everyone is already condemned because of Adam's sin which gives us the sin nature which makes us sinners. So we are condemned to everlasting punishment by default. It doesn't matter how "good" or "bad" we are. There is no way out of this condemnation except to be forgiven of our sins and washed by the blood of Jesus Christ by faith in Him, by believing on Him and trusting Him to save us from our sins, and from their consequences. By acknowledging Him as Lord, (which He already is whether we acknowledge it or not), and our Savior, our Redeemer. By asking Him to save us from what we deserve, which is hell.
This is what I want more than anything, is for people to be saved. I want people to know Jesus. The real Jesus. I want people to have their sins forgiven and be given eternal life!

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
 
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I don’t know where the verse is at ——probably somewhere in the back


Dan....it’s an old Homer Simpson line.....I use it on people that just come here to argue....feel free to use it on the willfully blind
 
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Dan....it’s an old Homer Simpson line.....I use it on people that just come here to argue....feel free to use it on the willfully blind
Ok :) Yeah I remember Ned Flanders. (I always thought of him as the cartoon caricature of Jeff Foxworthy.)
 
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Wrong..
YOU asked....YOU look it up....I already know the answer ..it’s more than one verse....much more
Yes it is the same as Matthew 1:2 begat: to conceive; to give birth tο γενναω. So if Jesus pre-existed why did he have to be reborn again? Matthew 1:16
 
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Yes it is the same as Matthew 1:2 begat: to conceive; to give birth tο γενναω. So if Jesus pre-existed why did he have to be reborn again? Matthew 1:16
He wasn't "reborn", He didn't pre-exist as a man on the earth. He has always been with the Father in heaven. The Bible teaches this throughout the entire thing. I could post several pages of verses to show this. But I've already posted some of them, and you seem to ignore them.
He had to become flesh in order to be able to shed blood so that our souls could be redeemed. The blood is the atonement of the soul, as it says in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
If Jesus hadn't become flesh, He could not have shed His blood, which was necessary for the atonement of our souls. It had to be sinless blood, so no man but Christ could do this, because no man but Christ is sinless. So the word of God, who was with God, and who was God, became flesh, and is Jesus Christ.
 
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What if He is actually real and worthy of our worship?

Fine and all, just wonder why he allowed D/s feelings to be universally adaptable.

Occasionally I hear the phrase "drunkenness in the spirit" which I think describes common symptoms of D/s experiences quite well. There is certainly a feeling of being drunk. Growing up I've heard stories of people who were so sloshed up in spiritual feelings of worship/submission that they actually had to be driven home by someone else for their own safety because they were so out of it. Same thing with instances of fainting and even incoherent speech (remember a few of those at church) Same thing happens in BDSM circles too.
 
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He wasn't "reborn", He didn't pre-exist as a man on the earth. He has always been with the Father in heaven. The Bible teaches this throughout the entire thing. I could post several pages of verses to show this. But I've already posted some of them, and you seem to ignore them.
He had to become flesh in order to be able to shed blood so that our souls could be redeemed. The blood is the atonement of the soul, as it says in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
If Jesus hadn't become flesh, He could not have shed His blood, which was necessary for the atonement of our souls. It had to be sinless blood, so no man but Christ could do this, because no man but Christ is sinless. So the word of God, who was with God, and who was God, became flesh, and is Jesus Christ.


Thanks, Dan for typing all the stuff I knew but was too lazy to type....God help me....lol
 
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He wasn't "reborn", He didn't pre-exist as a man on the earth. He has always been with the Father in heaven. The Bible teaches this throughout the entire thing. I could post several pages of verses to show this. But I've already posted some of them, and you seem to ignore them.
He had to become flesh in order to be able to shed blood so that our souls could be redeemed. The blood is the atonement of the soul, as it says in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
If Jesus hadn't become flesh, He could not have shed His blood, which was necessary for the atonement of our souls. It had to be sinless blood, so no man but Christ could do this, because no man but Christ is sinless. So the word of God, who was with God, and who was God, became flesh, and is Jesus Christ.
then even after his resurrection why did he say Luke 24:39-40 a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see me have
 
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Because He did have flesh and bones. He bodily resurrected.
You got it he was flesh and bones before he ascended to heaven but not Spirit until his ascension thereby proving he did not pre-exist physically or spiritually but was present only in the plans of God.
 
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but not Spirit until his ascension thereby proving he did not pre-exist physically or spiritually but was present only in the plans of God.
This old heresy again? From centuries ago, disproven then, and always (forever) , as it is directly contrary to Scripture.
Anyone remember the name it was called at first ? (centuries ago)....

Curious almost (no answer needed), but why would anyone choose to believe this heresy? Is there something else with it that makes it attractive to the carnal flesh ?
 
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This old heresy again? From centuries ago, disproven then, and always (forever) , as it is directly contrary to Scripture.
Anyone remember the name it was called at first ? (centuries ago)....

Curious almost (no answer needed), but why would anyone choose to believe this heresy? Is there something else with it that makes it attractive to the carnal flesh ?



It used to be called “hogwash”.... now called PURE hogwash
 
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This old heresy again? From centuries ago, disproven then, and always (forever) , as it is directly contrary to Scripture.
Anyone remember the name it was called at first ? (centuries ago)....

Curious almost (no answer needed), but why would anyone choose to believe this heresy? Is there something else with it that makes it attractive to the carnal flesh ?
Disproven by whom or what scriptures? Colossian 1:16 says "in him were all things created ... all things on account of him and for him have been created"
 
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This old heresy again? From centuries ago, disproven then, and always (forever) , as it is directly contrary to Scripture.
Anyone remember the name it was called at first ? (centuries ago)....

Curious almost (no answer needed), but why would anyone choose to believe this heresy? Is there something else with it that makes it attractive to the carnal flesh ?
I told my dad about it and he said it is called Arianism. And I don't know why people would want to believe it, except maybe if Jesus was only a man, who then ascended, maybe they think they can be some sort of ascended master as well. Rather than it being God taking on flesh to keep His own law because none of us could, and to die and shed sinless blood for the atonement of our souls (which makes us helpless needy sinners), it would be a man who was able to keep God's law who eventually ascended up to heaven. Maybe it makes Jesus more of an example to us than the actual Redeemer He really is.
Just a guess though.
 
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