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Hi guys,

Any Muslims here? I came to you to show you the End of Islam.

Do you remember we are spirits inside our bodies....Soon we will leave our bodies to be judged.
Who will judge us? Islam and the Bible says that Jesus is the Judge.

A brief story:
For about a few months I feel that my spirit leaves my body during sleep. When my dream finishes I return to my body like a ball of energy. I wake up at the moment of its return because I feel like a gravity in my feet like a black hole trying to capture my spirit into my body.

This gravity is frightening but I feel it. What does Islam say about sleep and spirits and judgement and why we sleep.
 
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Salam, following death we are not judged by Jesus pbuh, rather we are judged by his GOD, Elaha/Allah.

Spirits do leave the body when we sleep, like a stream of light, one end is attached to the body whilst the remainder penetrates the Heavens. A split second before you wake, the spirit returns to the body and sometimes you feel like a dead weight before the body is reanimated every day.

From the Qur'an:

39: 42 “It is Allah Who takes away the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep. He keeps those (souls) for which He has ordained death and sends the rest for a term appointed. Verily, in this are signs for a people who think deeply”

6:60 “It is He, Who takes your souls by night (when you are asleep), and has knowledge of all that you have done by day”

Hadith:

It was narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was on a journey during which they slept until the sun rose. He said: “Verily you were dead and Allah returned your souls to you; whoever sleeps and misses a prayer, let him offer it when he wakes up, and whoever forgets a prayer, let him offer it when he remembers.”

As for bad dreams, they are from the Devil and should be repulsed with the words of GOD, listening to the following 10 mins before bed should be adequate:


Peace
 
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Salam, lady.

Thank you for your response. I like it. -Who is the God of Israel and what are His creatures?- May God bless His Words to us now.


Nowadays we get support from Muslims more than from those who call themselves "Christians". Why is that? Because not all who are called by the name "Christian" are actually believers like there are many kafirs/unbelievers even among Muslims. Righteous religious Muslims are amazing and they deserve to be saved from the coming WRATH of God even more than many Christians!


Christians give gifts to each other during Christmas. But God gives His gifts to Muslims too! He does not sleep or slumber! He saves them! Because He is NOT a man! Who is God? God is a Spiritual Supreme Being. God is always active and busy for our well being. God is awake and working, even while we sleep. “I bless the Lord who gives me counsel; in the night also my heart instructs me.” “In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men, while they slumber on their beds, then God opens the ears of men and terrifies them with warnings.”


Oh Jews/Israel! He will not allow your foot to slip; He who keeps you will not slumber. Behold, He who keeps Israel Will neither slumber nor sleep. The LORD is your keeper; The LORD is your shade on your right hand...


Gifts of God do not end on the earth, but they also continue in Heaven/His Kingdom when the Lord is going to judge Christians and give them rewards for their good deeds, sufferings and faith and troubles and even death as martyrs/shahyds. Our Lord Jesus says: "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing." Any tree NOT bearing a good fruit by our life will be BURNT. This is His WARNING and LAW and a COMMAND. He is the JUDGE for every Christian and pagan and Muslim. He was born surrounded by animals, but He should be named "Mighty God, Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
"Glory" to You, Lord Jesus, because Your birth brought God to the world, and Your crucifixion brought our world to God. To You all "glory".


(And he (JESUS) shall be a sign for (the coming of) the Hour.) means, sign and “One of the signs of the Hour will be the appearance of `Isa son of Maryam before the Day of Resurrection.” Something similar was also narrated from Abu Hurayrah, Ibn `Abbas, `Abu Al-`Aliyah, Abu Malik, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and others. Many Mutawatir Hadiths report that the Messenger of Allah said that `Isa will descend before the Day of Resurrection as a just ruler and fair judge. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Q. 43:61)


Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 4.657 Narrated by Abu Huraira


Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "By Him (Allah) in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus (a.s.)) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler);


Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 4.658 Narrated by Abu Huraira


Allah's Messenger (saws) said "How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus (a.s.)) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Qur'an and not by the law of Gospel?


Islam says: During the second coming of Christ Jesus (a.s.) son of Mary upon this earth, Prophet Jesus (a.s.) will establish the Kingdom of Righteousness on this very earth and He (Jesus (a.s.)), as the undisputed Ruler of the world, will judge people justly according to the Law of the Last and Final Revelation of the Lord, the Al-Quran on this earth. Yes. That is CORRECT, Muslims, He is going to establish His Kingdom on earth which you call "Caliphate".


Faith of true Muslims is amazing. I always admire that. And I sincerely desire that they would join the TRUE God of Israel who gave us His revelations in the Holy Scripture 2,000 years before the existence of Islam. But I am sure God respects their decision...to believe in what they want..in what He did not proclaim.


We will discuss Islam and the profound end-time prophecies....and revelations of God for Muslims.


What does this God say about construction of our bodies?


Our bodies consist of three parts (body, spirit and soul). ONE GROUP of THREE entities. This is the Tawhid concept in Christianity called Multiplicity and Unity or "Tri-Unity/Trinity". God is ONE GROUP too like you, oh Muslim, uniting THREE Supreme beings in ONE GROUP. And each one of them is God too...i.e. a Divine and Supreme Being. Like you are a spirit too co existing among THREE entities....You are a spirit inside of your body controlling it like a car. When your body dies, you leave it and continue to exist. I suppose soul is just a blood. So, you are soul and spirit and body united and acting in unity like God…YOU are a GROUP like GOD because He created people in His image.




Who is Allah’s Lord. Allah speaks about his Lord in Quran 11:90. We must understand that according to Islam, Allah is the only speaker of all the Quranic verses. Quran 11:90 reads, “Ask for forgiveness of your lord, and turn to him in repentance. For my lord is indeed merciful and loving-kindness.” Of whom does Allah speaks when he says, “For my lord is indeed merciful and loving-kindness”? Could this be the same Lord to whom Allah prayed when he said in Quran 1:6 “Guide us to the straight path”? Can a god who believes he is the ‘one and only’ glorifies another god? In Quran 17:1 Allah glorifies another god for taking Muhammad to the sacred Mosque. The verse reads, “Glory be to Him (god) who made His servant (Muhammad) to go on a night (flight) from the Sacred Mosque…which We (Allah) have blessed the precinct, that We may show to him some of Our signs…”



Ok, what we see today. Lets make a summary:

(1) Jesus is the Judge on earth like God.

(2) He is going to JUDGE first Christians..He will start the Judgement from the Church of God. He will judge Muslims too.

(3) God cares about people even during sleep. But sometimes He even end our lives during sleep when we do NOT bear any GOOD fruits by our lives and when our existence is aimless He kills us through illnesses, accidents and when our mission finishes.

(4) God is going to establish the Kingdom of JESUS on our planet soon to judge Muslims and Christians and unbelievers and to establish PEACE ..the Kingdom of RIGHTEOUSNESS.



Now next questions for you Muslim to consider together:

(1) What is the result of the Muslim war when Jesus arrives to our planet. Describe Islam and we will consider that together.
 
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You believe the bad dreams are warnings from God, which is indeed possible. To be sure, try the video I posted before sleeping.

Muslims believe dreams before the Fajr (pre dawn) prayer are from the Devil, hence using God's words to repel them. Dreams after Fajr are considered to be from God.

Some errors in your post regarding Jesus pbuh (peace be upon him):

Jesus pbuh will indeed rule the Earth as a just and righteous Leader. You didn't give the full picture though; he marries, has children and eventually passes away to be buried in the ground, the same as any other mortal human being. Thereafter the Kingdom is handed back to GOD for a decreed time before Judgement Day is announced.

The judgement of Jesus pbuh during his earthly rule is like that of a pious King. It's not Judgement Day where the dead are raised and every soul judged for what it had earnt.

On the Trinity Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not co equal. The Trinity formula is not found anywhere in the Bible, nor was it taught by Jesus pbuh.

On 11:90 This is what the Prophet pbuh is being taught to recite by GOD. There is no one above GOD, nor has He any need for anyone or thing. Every verse mentioned is what the Prophet pbuh is being told to recite.

Thank you for your thoughtful comments on genuine Muslims. There are also many genuine GOD fearing people found around the World belonging to many beliefs/religions. GOD willing such people will unite under the banner of Monotheism when Jesus pbuh returns to kill the Dajjal, (Anti-Christ).

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The updated version:

Salam sister.




My response: I like your thoughtful responses, lady. Thank you. May the God of Israel bless His words to us today.


As you know already, the God of Israel does not mention any "leaving of spirits during dreams". But sometimes He influences us during sleep to correct our thoughts and actions. There is no need for Him to take our spirits to Himself every night and send us back to our bodies. That is just unreasonable. EVERYTHING is reasonable in our God. Yes, I mentioned “our God” because Islam claims that the God of Israel is your God too. Ok, but there are some cases when the Holy Scripture mentions that some spirits left bodies for some reasons. Look:

In a dream, in a vision of the night,
when deep sleep falls on people
as they slumber in their beds,

he may speak in their ears
and terrify them with warnings,
to turn them from wrongdoing
and keep them from pride,
to preserve them from the pit,
their lives from perishing by the sword.

Matthew 2:12
And having been warned in a dream not to return to Herod, they withdrew to their country by another route.

Genesis 46:2
God spoke to Israel in visions of the night and said, "Jacob, Jacob." And he said, "Here I am."

So, some of dreams are visions.

Daniel 2:19
Then the mystery was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.

The Prophet Daniel saw such visions too. During such a vision, he saw God and His Son. That happened 2,000 years before the existence of Islam. What he saw in such a vision? A reality or a mix with the virtual reality produced by his brain? His vision was a reality shown in visions passed through his mind during a dream like some waves transmitting some video information. Some of this video information was created in such a way to explain the present reality like cartoons or modern video games. Let’s see what the prophet Daniel saw:

9 “As I looked,

“thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days (GOD) took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
and the books were opened.

13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man (The SON of GOD), coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He man (The SON of GOD) was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

The Son of God/Jesus is the King here. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. That is what you said: “Jesus pbuh will indeed rule the Earth as a just and righteous Leader.”

Yes, here we see that His Father has white hair like His Son too. Look at the Son of God in a description given by another prophet John:

I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw … among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters….. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

You are right when you said: “Thereafter the Kingdom is handed back to GOD for a decreed time before Judgement Day is announced.”

The Holy Scripture confirms your words, lady.

21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

What we see here? There is a subordination in the Godhead. The King Jesus will reign like God the Father on our planet and at the end of His reign, He will be subject to His Father. Why this is IMPORTANT to have a UNITARY GOVERNMENT?! We will consider that later too. So, what is the Tawhid concept in Christianity called by us as the TRI-UNITY (unity and multiplicity within called by us as ONE GROUP/ Majmuah wahida)? Actually, the United States Government is a trinity too. Let’s consider that too.

Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” This statement is an honorable declaration in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It contends that God is a “One Spirit Entity” — not two, or three, or four “spirit entities”. This solemn declaration ties all three religions together as “Monotheism” — a system of the study of God in which there is only one God.

However, God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit. Let me put it another way. In Islam there is such a thing as God and Jesus. But this is not so in Christianity. There is no such thing as God and Jesus, because God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit. We do have the Father and the Son, but there is no such thing as God and the Son, because God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit.

Let me give you an example: The smallest particle of matter is called “Atom”. Atom is a trinity. It consists of (1) protons, (2) electrons, and (3) neutrons. The “Atom” (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of protons, electron, and neutrons. There is no such thing as “atom and protons”, because within the atom (singular) are protons. Within the God (singular) are Father, Word, and Spirit — three separate and distinct Persons make up one God just as within the atom (singular) are protons, electrons, and neutrons — three separate and distinct sub-particles make up one atom.

The United States Government is a trinity. It is a “One-Government” that has within itself three separate and distinct branches of governments: (1) Legislature Branch of Government, (2 Executive Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government. There is no such thing as the United States Government and the Legislature Branch of Government, because within the United States Government is the Legislature Branch of Government. In the same way there is no such thing as “God and Jesus”, because within God (singular) is “Word of God” (Jesus).

Time is a trinity. It consists of (1) past, (2), present, and (3) future. There is no such thing as “Time and Future”, because within “Time” (singular) is future. A person who continues to say “Time and Future” does not understand “Time”, because “Time” extends from eternity to eternity. In the same way somebody who continues to say “God and Jesus” does not understand God. God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit.

Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” This statement is an honorable declaration in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It contends that God is a “One Spirit Entity” — not two, or three, or four “spirit entities”. This solemn declaration ties all three religions together as “Monotheism” — a system of the study of God in which there is only one God.



The question is what does the word “One” means? Islam says the word “One” means solitude (singularity, aloneness). Both Judaism and Christianity say the word “One” means a “composite unity” as in “The man and his wife are one flesh” — Genesis 2:24 or “The evening and the morning are one day” — Genesis 1:13.

The question as to what the word “One” really means is as simple as asking a Jew, a Christian, and a Muslim the same exact question.

Ask as Muslims: “Who created man?” He will answer, “Allah created man.” Allah created man from a drop of blood—Q. 86:5-7. Allah created man from sperm—Q. 75:37. Allah created man from a dust—Q. 30:20. Allah created man from water—Q. 25:54. Allah created man from a single person —Q. 4:1. Allah created man from a clay—Q. 32:7-9.

In the “Total Aloneness of Allah” a Muslim cannot and will not attribute the creation of man to any other then to Allah — the one and only — Q. 112:1.

Ask a Jew: “Who created man?” He will answer by attributing “Divinity” to two Persons: (1) the Spirit of God, and (2) the Almighty. Job 33:4 reads, “The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.”

The question is why a Jew who says, “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord” now attributes “Divinity” to two Persons? — Because God (singular) in Judaism is a “composite unity.” Isaiah 44:6 reads, “Thus said the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Here is the Good News: Jews can explain the plurality within God from their Holy Scriptures which is the Old Testament. Christians can explain the plurality within God from their Holy Scriptures which is the New Testament.

Here is the Bad News: No Muslim — not one — can explain the singularity of Allah — “the Total Aloneness of Allah” as to the revelation of himself in plural pronouns (we, our). In fact I do not expect you to address the question as to why Allah, the “total aloneness god who is one with and within himself” refers to himself as “we” and also as “I”. But I expect you to continue to attack the Holy Trinity which clearly states that “God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit.”

There is no such thing as “God and Jesus”, but rather “The Father and the Son.”

Let’s make a Summary of what we have learned today:

(1) Christianity is actually the same what is Islam. Or better to say: THE TRUE ISLAM IS IN THE HOLY BIBLE ONLY.

(2) The Tawhid Concept in Christianity is reasonable and it is representing a UNITY of THREE Supreme Beings called in the Original Jewish Scripture in Hebrew in the Holy Torah by the same name “YHVH”. YHVH addressed to another YHVH. One God addressed to another God and that makes them equal.

(3) “Jesus pbuh will indeed rule the Earth as a just and righteous Leader.” That is CORRECT. He is our King.

Next questions to ponder: How He is going to rule over nations on our planet? What does Islam say about His Reign/caliphate on our planet? And the question which you still did not answer:

What is the result of the Muslim war when Jesus arrives to our planet. Describe Islam and we will consider that together.



Now let me show you these words again:

Jesus says to you, Lady and to you, Muslims:

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” I am the First and the Last (Al-Awwal, Al-Akhir). I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. “Look, I am coming soon! Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last (Al-Awwal, Al-Akhir), the Beginning and the End.

The Quran testifies that First and the Last (Al-Awwal, Al-Akhir) is one of the names of Allah:

Al-Awwal, Al-Akhir: The First and the Last! Al-Awwal and Al-Akhir are two of the Ninety-Nine Names.

Surah 57:3 of the Qur’an refers to Allah as “the First and the Last, the Most High and the Most Near.”

Isaiah 44:6—Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me.”

Qur’an 22:56-57—The kingdom on that day shall be Allah’s; He will judge between them; so those who believe and do good will be in gardens of bliss. And (as for) those who disbelieve in and reject Our communications, these it is who shall have a disgraceful chastisement.

Matthew 25:31-32—“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

"For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed? I will not yield my glory to another. Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last. My own hand laid the foundations of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together." Isaiah 48:11-13

What does that mean that the Son of God is the First and the Last? This means that He created everything. He is the Creator of everything ...people…stars and planets according to the Holy Scripture because He is a Supreme Being like His Father. The Son is a Spirit and NOT a man. The Son existed always with His Father. Everything came into existence by Him and FOR HIM. He is the Creator in the Quran too. He made the beginning of EVERYTHING. He is the originating source of the creation. He is the end. Jesus will bring the material world on our planet to a conclusion at the time of the end of His Reign on our planet..at the end of His Millennium Reign. “Then comes the end, when he [Christ] shall deliver up the kingdom to God”.

The Beginning and the End…For some of us He will be the beginning of the New World created for us…For some of us He will be the END. That is fair too….But still we can fight for those whom we love…. Why? Because they –the RIGHTEOUS Muslims- DESERVE that even more than Christians!
 
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9 “As I looked,

“thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days (GOD) took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
and the books were opened.

13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man (The SON of GOD), coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He man (The SON of GOD) was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
The words, 'The SON of GOD' do not appear in the Torah, they're not even there in brackets.

Jewish Bible:

13 I saw in the visions of the night, and behold with the clouds of the heaven, one like a man was coming, and he came up to the Ancient of Days and was brought before Him.

14 And He gave him dominion and glory and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and tongues shall serve him; his dominion is an eternal dominion, which will not be removed, and his kingdom is one which will not be destroyed.

Notice this one like the son of man is brought before GOD. Nothing remotely about a Divine Son equal with GOD.

The Son of God/Jesus is the King here. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. That is what you said: “Jesus pbuh will indeed rule the Earth as a just and righteous Leader.”
Yes he returns to rule and eventually die. He breaks the cross and makes clear only GOD should be worshipped.

Yes, here we see that His Father has white hair like His Son too. Look at the Son of God in a description given by another prophet John:

I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw … among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters….. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Let's stop here and ask which Prophet named John is this? Is this person's testimony truthworthy?
Let me know before we examine what he has to say.

What we see here? There is a subordination in the Godhead. The King Jesus will reign like God the Father on our planet and at the end of His reign, He will be subject to His Father. Why this is IMPORTANT to have a UNITARY GOVERNMENT?! We will consider that later too. So, what is the Tawhid concept in Christianity called by us as the TRI-UNITY (unity and multiplicity within called by us as ONE GROUP/ Majmuah wahida)? Actually, the United States Government is a trinity too. Let’s consider that too.
I'm confused as you are saying GOD is one, but showing one god taking orders from the Most High GOD. So two gods right?

Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” This statement is an honorable declaration in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It contends that God is a “One Spirit Entity” — not two, or three, or four “spirit entities”. This solemn declaration ties all three religions together as “Monotheism” — a system of the study of God in which there is only one God.
No Jew believes God is 3 separate persons who share the same will, power and knowledge making One God.

However, God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit. Let me put it another way. In Islam there is such a thing as God and Jesus. But this is not so in Christianity. There is no such thing as God and Jesus, because God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit. We do have the Father and the Son, but there is no such thing as God and the Son, because God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit.
Please show me where God or ANY of His Prophets/Messengers explained God to be Three undivided Enities.

Word of God = spoken commandments, God says and Angels do His will.

"…O Mary! Behold, God gives you good news of a word from Him, who shall become known as the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary..." (Quran 3:45)

"It is He who gives life and causes death; and when He decrees a matter, He but says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is." (Quran 40:68)

"Indeed the likeness of Jesus to God as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, ‘Be,’ and he was." (Quran 3:59)

Spirit of God = Agent of God, usually a Angel doing his work.

The Quran gives details of Jesus’ conception. Mary was not impregnated by a man. Angel Gabriel, referred to in the Quran as the Spirit, brought the soul of Jesus – his soul was created by God like other human souls - to breathe it into Mary. On seeing the angel, she expressed with surprise,

"‘My Lord,’ said Mary, how shall I have a son when no man has ever touched me?" (Quran 3:47)

The angel answered,

"Thus it is: God creates what He wills: When he decrees a matter, He only says to it: ‘Be,’ and it is." (Quran 3:47)

Gabriel then blew the soul of Jesus into Mary, "so We blew into it (her womb) through Our angel." (Quran 66:12)

Let me give you an example: The smallest particle of matter is called “Atom”. Atom is a trinity. It consists of (1) protons, (2) electrons, and (3) neutrons. The “Atom” (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of protons, electron, and neutrons. There is no such thing as “atom and protons”, because within the atom (singular) are protons. Within the God (singular) are Father, Word, and Spirit — three separate and distinct Persons make up one God just as within the atom (singular) are protons, electrons, and neutrons — three separate and distinct sub-particles make up one atom.

The United States Government is a trinity. It is a “One-Government” that has within itself three separate and distinct branches of governments: (1) Legislature Branch of Government, (2 Executive Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government. There is no such thing as the United States Government and the Legislature Branch of Government, because within the United States Government is the Legislature Branch of Government. In the same way there is no such thing as “God and Jesus”, because within God (singular) is “Word of God” (Jesus).

Time is a trinity. It consists of (1) past, (2), present, and (3) future. There is no such thing as “Time and Future”, because within “Time” (singular) is future. A person who continues to say “Time and Future” does not understand “Time”, because “Time” extends from eternity to eternity. In the same way somebody who continues to say “God and Jesus” does not understand God. God (singular) is the indivisible (undivided) union of Father, Word, and Spirit.

Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” This statement is an honorable declaration in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It contends that God is a “One Spirit Entity” — not two, or three, or four “spirit entities”. This solemn declaration ties all three religions together as “Monotheism” — a system of the study of God in which there is only one God.
As above show me where it's taught in the Bible by Prophets, then we can try to make sense using real life examples and see if they really are the same thing.

The question is what does the word “One” means? Islam says the word “One” means solitude (singularity, aloneness). Both Judaism and Christianity say the word “One” means a “composite unity” as in “The man and his wife are one flesh” — Genesis 2:24 or “The evening and the morning are one day” — Genesis 1:13.

One in Islam means:

 
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"No Jew believes God is 3 separate persons who share the same will, power and knowledge making One God."
LOL Yes, because they do not study the Holy Bible in the ORIGINAL Language Hebrew..lol But we do. May be even some of rabbis saw these ayat in Hebrew but they prefer to close their eyes like Muslims to not see that. That is why we call them KAFIRS like Muslims. And of course they all be in hell because of that. Note: Like Muslims too.

"Please show me where God or ANY of His Prophets/Messengers explained God to be Three undivided Enities."
The Hebrew Bible is full of such descriptions. God YHVH calls by His name YHVH another One Supreme Being in one aya/verse.

"I'm confused as you are saying GOD is one, but showing one god taking orders from the Most High GOD. So two gods right?"
Honey, THREE....They are three in one aya of the Torah. UNITED by the same divine origin. They are NOT people. They are Supreme Beings.

Ok now let's move forward.
 
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Next questions to ponder: How Jesus is going to rule over nations on our planet? What does Islam say about His Reign/caliphate on our planet? And the question which you still did not answer:

What is the result of the Muslim war when Jesus arrives to our planet. Describe Islam and we will consider that together.

Note: I am Bahira Omar

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

Flames of War
Future of Caliphate or the New World 2


I said to my Friend:

Sometimes I think our love and conscience can be much better than any religion of this world..much stronger and perfect. Let’s create our own religion and world...I am going to write about that.”

His response was:

“I like that kind of thinking too, I admire people who have great ideas to create a better world…

I couldn't agree more, we need a new system that debunks and replaces religion - something that actually shows people to live in a harmonious society and not cause problems for each other. This is something religion has never done. If you have any great ideas, please let me know!”

I asked my beloved man the other day:
“Do you know ..how to stop any confrontation and hatred among the nations like the USA and Russia? How to stop the Cold War and Space Wars?"
The only way is to unite all nations into one state on our planet!
Then there will be no more reasons for any war. There will be one state, common finances, common laws, common security...
Jesus is going to do that on our planet soon...during His Millennium Reign.
A brief story. Try to imagine now:

“Syria.. War…Muslims love Syria like their mother but suddenly the Syrian Government arrests them, casts into prison, tortures because of their religious views of Islam and their desire to protect Syria from their President and His military forces torturing their citizens during interrogations…The result: after prison Lions breath in their freedom…and decide to continue their fight…because they were grown up as a FREE people..to be FREE and to establish Freedom. Have you ever seen such Lions? One of them is Hadi Al Abdallah, a prominent Syrian citizen journalist and activist. All other Muslims in Syria are like Hadi…Fighters…Rebels…Freedom is their desire and purpose to live…Have you seen them?! The men of honor and dignity! They are righteous…If you want “self-righteous”. They gained the highest level of love for their people and “their god”. They have the perfect state of mind and hearts…but…

There is the Christian God. Who is He?

Fighting like Lions daily in hunger and pain, they still make the final step to look into heaven to another God. Who are You, oh God of Christians?!

Islam says that You are the God for every Muslim!

But why Your laws command to stop any war against the Government?!

What is the reason why You do not allow us to be rebels?!

What is the purpose of Your Kingdom?

We establish the Caliphate in Syria and Iraq but Your Christian people establish another Kingdom..another Caliphate on our planet preparing to respond to our Islamic attacks in Palestine and Gaza..

Who are you, the God of Christians?!

And what are Your plans on our planet?!

A bullet spears his shoulder….he falls down to decompose and return to the ground from where he was taken to live on that planet …

His blood sheds like river..The last river he saw in his life…His life in blood poured out from his body…

Darkness.

The prison called “hell”.

Again, he should spent his days of existence in a prison. He recalls the words of the Christian God but why his way in Islam lead him to this prison?!…

Again..as at the first time when he was in prison in Syria, he suffers from pain and darkness and loneness…He was born to be alone and again he is alone…

All he had was she in the world where he existed…

Some ways lead to the dead end…”


The Heavenly Council.
I step to a bright room full of light and its floor is transparent like made of glass…transparent and shining…
The Heavenly Council.
To talk to God and to His Council.
God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the "gods": Psalm 82:1
I (GOD) said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. Psalm 82:6
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty,.... "in the congregation of angels"; they are mighty, and excel in strength, and there is a large company of them, even an innumerable one, and who surround the throne of the Majesty on high.
In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple. Isaiah 6:1
At once I was in the Spirit, and I saw a throne standing in heaven, with someone seated on it. Revelation 4:2
The One seated there looked like jasper and carnelian, and a rainbow gleaming like an emerald encircled the throne. Revelation 4:3
And whenever the living creatures give glory, honor, and thanks to the One seated on the throne who lives forever and ever Revelation 4:9
..the twenty-four elders fall down before the One seated on the throne, and they worship Him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, Revelation 4:10
.. I saw a great white throne and the One who sat on it. The earth and the heavens fled from His presence, and no place was found for them. Revelation 20:11
"Therefore, hear the word of the LORD. I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left. 1 Kings 22:19
“Thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days (GOD) took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
and the books were opened.
“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man (HE WAS THE SON OF GOD JESUS), coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days (GOD) and was led into his presence. He (THE SON OF GOD JESUS), was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
I address to God and to His Son:
“Why the righteous Muslims, knowing You very well but who made a mistake choosing Islam, should get to the prison “hell”?! Where is Your Justice and Mercy?!”
God answers:
But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says:
Now to each one of us grace has been given according to the measure of the gift of Christ. This is why it says: “When He ascended on high, He led captives away, and gave gifts to men.” What does “He ascended” mean, except that He also descended to the lower parts of the earth?

You have ascended on high, You have led captive Your captives; You have received gifts among men, Even among the rebellious also, that the LORD God may dwell there. Psalm 68:18
Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!
Proverbs 30:4
His name is the Son of God.

Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit. 1 Peter 4:6
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. After being made alive. He went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits—to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 1 Peter 3:18-20
Did Jesus go to sheol/hades/hell? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8–10 and 1 Peter 3:18–20.

What did Jesus do in the prison “hell”?
He went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Jude 1:6: “The angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.” There are some fallen angels that committed an egregious crime of some kind- rebels; Jude 1:6 they “did not keep their own position but deserted their proper dwelling.” Revelation 9:1–12, 14–15, and 2 Peter 2:4 also speak of a group of very wicked angels that are currently bound.
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
Then He will also say to those on the left hand, “Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41).
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment (2 Peter 2:4).
Satan was created as a holy angel. Isaiah 14:12: Satan’s pre-fall name was Lucifer. Ezekiel 28:12-14 describes Satan as having been created a cherub, apparently the highest created angel.
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
In speaking of the angels he (GOD) says, "He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire."
“He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.”
He makes His angels winds, and His servants a fiery flame.


Satan (Lucifer) became arrogant in his beauty and status and decided to be like God. He decided to be a rebel and to start a war in heaven/in the universe…He wanted to sit on a throne above that of God (Isaiah 14:13-14; Ezekiel 28:15; 1 Timothy 3:6). Satan’s pride and sins led to his fall. He became a first murderer.

The Son of God told us about Satan:
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Because of his sin, God permanently removed Satan from his exalted position and role.
Satan became the ruler of our world and the prince of the power of the air (John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:2). He is an accuser (Revelation 12:10), a tempter (Matthew 4:3; 1 Thessalonians 3:5), and a deceiver (Genesis 3; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 20:3). His very name “satan”means “adversary” or “one who opposes.” Another of his titles, the devil, means “slanderer.”

However, Satan’s destiny is sealed—an eternity in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10). This will happen after his incarceration in the prison “hell” created for Satan and his angels (the 1/3rd of the Army of God).
"Then he (Jesus) will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Matthew 25:41

Jesus called Satan the “prince of this world,” and the apostle Paul referred to him as the “ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient” (Ephesians 2:2). Satan does not live in hell; he lives and works on the earth and in the heavens circling it..may be even in UFOs.

This is important to know, because soon Jesus will return to our planet Earth and collect what belongs to Him…His people. He will defeat the followers of Satan during the World War 3 and claim His elect for Himself. Ultimately, Satan will be thrown into the Lake of Fire and “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10). Afterward, Jesus will judge unbelievers according to what they have done during their lives. Anyone whose name is not found written in the Book of Life is thrown into the Lake of Fire where Satan and his minions will be by that time (Revelation 20:13, 15). Hell and death are also thrown into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14), so, technically speaking, at no time does Satan reside in hell. But he will be confined permanently in a very hot place that could be called a “hellish” location on a planet like our Sun, to be tormented eternally.

Who will be in the Lake of Fire with him?
His rebels.
All Muslims.
Unbelievers.
Ungodly Christians.
That is fair.
But if Jesus saved people from hell who lived in the time of the prophet Noah..they most probably repented, why He would not save righteous Muslims from hell and the Lake of Fire who like Hadi al Abdallah just made a mistake choosing Islam knowing Christianity even better than Christians?!

How to live in peace? How to avoid hell? If Islam calls to kill and establish Islam on our planet?!
Do you know how to stop any confrontation and hatred among the Muslim nations if even Islam and the Quran commands them to practice hatred!? How to stop the Cold War and Space Wars?

The only way is to unite all nations into one state on our planet!

Then there will be no more reasons for any war. There will be just one state...common finances...common laws...

Jesus is going to do that on our planet soon...during His Millennium Reign.
The Millennium (also known as the Millennial Kingdom) is the 1,000-year reign of Jesus after the Tribulation and the Muslim World War 3 in Israel when He literally return soon to our planet to protect Jews/ Israel from the Islamic fighters during the World War 3.

Jesus will reign as King over Israel as well as all the nations of the world (Isaiah 2:4; 42:1). The world will live in peace (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:18), Satan will be bound in prison for 1,000 years (his incarceration period) (Revelation 20:1–3).

Then I saw an angel coming down from Heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.
Revelation 20:1–3

The purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill promises God made to establish peace and to return the planet Earth created by the Son of God to His Son.. our Earth.. to restore our planet and to enforce His laws. All of these will be fulfilled during Jesus’ 1,000-year reign.
Jesus is going to do all of these promises on our planet soon...during His Millennium Reign.

His Kingdom will be actually the “Caliphate” that Muslims so dream to see established on our planet.

The Son of God will stop any wars the Bible says. How? There will be no external threats.... The wolf (Muslims and unbelievers) shall dwell with the lamb (Christians) in PEACE.
Isaiah 11:6–9
6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.
9 They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;
for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.
Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
Isaiah 32:16-18


People will live safely on our planet...but to secure peace on our planet the Son of God will need to ensure internal security...through strict control of the citizens of the new state.

The Son of God says:
“And he (CHRISTIANS) that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.” Revelation 2: 27.
Whenever we think of "what would Jesus do?" we think of the gentle Shepherd -don't we?
But what does it mean that He will rule with an iron rod? What does that look like? How is it applied?
And what does it mean for the overcomers-Christians- who will likewise rule with Him with iron rods?

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he (Jesus) judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

When Jesus first came to earth born in the manger He came to offer forgiveness of sins through His shed blood on the Cross.
Well when He comes back, He comes to judge the Muslim nations during the Islamic War in Israel and to establish His Kingdom which will have no end.
There will be internal security forces, preventing internal conflicts.
This is exactly what He plans to do.
He can stop any external wars...but He is not able to stop internal wars...and such rebels with start the World War 4....after the Millennium reign of Christ on our planet:
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Internal wars is what people will always do to be FREE from any regime…to have freedom...only willingly submission to the control will ensure safe dwelling....
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Internal wars...is what people will always do..to be FREE from any regime..to have freedom...only willingly submission to the control of God on our planet will ensure safe living....All other external rebels (People/unbelievers who will reject the Reign of Christ on our planet) during the Millennium Rein will gain freedom from the security control system of God...but only for a while…because His world and the universe is programmed for destruction.


What is required to exist in the destroying universe?
The Commonwealth or Community, constructing the new world....
This could be the New World 2 after the God's Kingdom in the universe....with own gods....or in other words leaders....
It is possible that God will allow to construct this New World 2....saving righteous Muslims from the prison “hell” or even the Lake of Fire… who like Hadi Al Abdallah are righteous! He could even separate a planet for them to construct there a New World …
God can allow creating their New World because its future can be even better than the future of His Kingdom!!!!
Finally 2 worlds should unite ....to avoid confrontation...and this will be useful for God anyway...strengthening His world...uniting people…
Unity via a Counsel, having common laws, is ensurance of peace!
Demons failed to do that in the universe....

They -rebels- separated themselves from the Army of God to destroy what God created..people and nations...failing to unite themselves for creation of the better world ...Their laws do not exist…Not existing laws do not allow them to act in unity, securing each other’s freedom and safety. Laws, like street rules and regulations, or laws of physics should be applied to control the world…if there is no control then the world collapses into pieces…

Sometimes I think our love and conscience can be much better any religion of this world..much stronger and perfect.
But that is EXACTLY what God already done!
Love and Conscience are His values!

The Son of God said:
This is My commandment, that you love one another as I loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command you.

Laws, love and justice will ensure existence of His world!
Destruction of the world by Islam will NEVER contribute to peace and its way leads to nowhere…

The Caliphate of Christians on our planet is EXACTLY what the world needs and gets. The Caliphate of Islam is short-term until the Islamic allah will use a pleasant wind (a sort of gas/a gas attack from Syria/Yemen..lol) to exterminate all Muslims on our planet and then later even all kafirs/unbelievers and even angels.
Christian God saves. The Islamic god kills.

That is the difference between Islam -the wrong way created by demons/rebels and Satan in Islam on our planet- and the reasonable Master Plan of the God of Israel and every Christian.
The way that kills in Islam is exactly the way of rebels who will be in the Lake of Fire….they are demons and all rebels from Syria and Iraq and our world…We cannot change those who do not want to be changed!
But we can save those who want to be saved like Hadi Al Abdallah and fighters like him…
Please Lord save Hadi and those who are still alive. And those who are already dead…those who are even in hell..like You already saved prisoners!
Do it again and always!

Because sometimes our love and conscience can be much better than any religion of this world..much stronger and perfect. Let us create our own world...the world based on the laws of our conscience and love like You loved us…

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
I am he that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
To Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


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