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Re: 2 questions on Universalism for John
Hi John,
My questions are directed at you.
1. On another thread you said "Jesus did not have to die". But scripture is clear he did have to die to pay the price for the sins of the world. He was the sacrificial Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world. God poured out his Judgment on Christ, as the scapegoat.
Luke 22:19-20
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Are you saying the cross was not neccesary for salvation? Scripture is very clear it was. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.
2. How do you address the Great White Throne Judgment of Revelation 20? The context is clearly human beings, not demons, being cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:11-15
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
And:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Thanks for your time.
Anthony
Re: 2 questions on Universalism for John
Hi John,
My questions are directed at you.
1. On another thread you said "Jesus did not have to die". But scripture is clear he did have to die to pay the price for the sins of the world. He was the sacrificial Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world. God poured out his Judgment on Christ, as the scapegoat.
Luke 22:19-20
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Are you saying the cross was not neccesary for salvation? Scripture is very clear it was. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.
2. How do you address the Great White Throne Judgment of Revelation 20? The context is clearly human beings, not demons, being cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:11-15
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
And:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Thanks for your time.
Anthony
