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I mean not to be blunt, I am a bit under the weather, so I apologize if anything sounds gruff
OK, first let me remind that I have been the one pointing out that sacrifice did not require blood, even the sin sacrifice can be grain if one is poor. Remembering that we must think that blood is not what Hashem wants, it is the ritual, the heart. The only sacrifice without a grain option was of the community, so not on the individual.
Further, I have not been saying that animal sacrifice would necessarily continue, simply that sacrifices would continue. Your posts were the ones saying that the sacrifices would not take place again. That said, I personally do think that animal sacrifice will continue, but that might be a different discussion. Let us simply leave it now that I believe the scriptures point towards the belief that sacrifice will continue in the third Temple.
Haha, sounds goodNow that I've got the 18 hamburger buns made I can pay more attention!
We actually do not know that it was a Nazarite vow, though it is a reasonable assumption, and I agree it probably was.Those men were performing a Nazarite vow--thus the shaved heads.
Num_6:18 And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.
Num_6:19 And the priest shall take the sodden shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them upon the hands of the Nazarite, after the hair of his separation is shaven:
Num_6:20 And the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: this is holy for the priest, with the wave breast and heave shoulder: and after that the Nazarite may drink wine.
Num_6:21 This is the law of the Nazarite who hath vowed, and of his offering unto the LORD for his separation, beside that that his hand shall get: according to the vow which he vowed, so he must do after the law of his separation.
It was not a sin offering. Most offerings of this nature did not require blood---for there was no sin to forgive. They used meal, flour, oil--All of this is a far cry from instituting animal sacrifices for removal of sins. Christ has done that.
OK, first let me remind that I have been the one pointing out that sacrifice did not require blood, even the sin sacrifice can be grain if one is poor. Remembering that we must think that blood is not what Hashem wants, it is the ritual, the heart. The only sacrifice without a grain option was of the community, so not on the individual.
Further, I have not been saying that animal sacrifice would necessarily continue, simply that sacrifices would continue. Your posts were the ones saying that the sacrifices would not take place again. That said, I personally do think that animal sacrifice will continue, but that might be a different discussion. Let us simply leave it now that I believe the scriptures point towards the belief that sacrifice will continue in the third Temple.
I believe it is supportable for many sacrifice, please remember that there were many other sacrifices other than sin and guilt. Fire did not come down from Heaven to ignite the sacrifices on a routine basis, it was fire made in a normal way. Fire did come from Heaven at certain times in scripture, but not routinely for normal sacrifice.Reinstating animal sacrifice for the propose of removal of sins is not biblically supported and if there were fire to come down from heaven over those sacrifices--it would not be of God.
No idea...maybe, but it seems very unlikely.I don't know if anyone makes Nazarite vows anymore?
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