How do you take knowledge from the head to the heart?

Ben Collyer said:

well if you met someone who was chronically insecure about themself, to the point of total self rejection, what would you say?

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I would say to him that who he is, and what he can be, is defined by God and not by the godless values of the world which are thrown in our faces by godless people every day.

Ben Collyer said:

well if you met someone who was chronically insecure about themself, to the point of total self rejection, what would you say?

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Ben Collyer said:

well if you met someone who was chronically insecure about themself, to the point of total self rejection, what would you say?

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i tell you what I have seen help people of low esteem when they get out with the Church and help feed the homeless mow the grass at the Church when you help people Jesus has a way of changing the heart and circumstances join the Choir go to bible study Be active I see you have
Christian label do something change your environment Music,TV Programs do you have solid Christian friends believe it or not there is a war inside ourselves when we become Christians Pray often about
This when I have some serious praying to do I go get near water a stream river lake and I just pour my
Heart out to GOD.Now I don’t no this but do you have a good conscience if you have hurt someone
Go ask for forgiveness treat your parents well and don’t forget your a child of the King.Talk to someone
Who is a good strong Christian man someone who has been an overcomer of trials let him Pray
For you get involved in your Congregation if your not attending Church go Sunday don’t go to someone
Who says their a Christian and never attends Church unless their a shutin get help from a practicing
Member whom you no is near to God.
GOD BLESS you Ben

The. Spirit has to move on the word thats already on you. So pray before meditating ask God to transfer it from your head to your heart.

Ben Collyer said:

For example, Identity, if I wanted to believe in my heart my identity, and thus be free of all insecurity, How would I go about doing that? someone might say

"meditate on scriptures regarding your identity" but I have tried that and nothing shifted inside me.

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Be free of all insecurity? Insecurity arises from Self and wanting to protect it. God calls us to put Self to death. That's His remedy for our insecurities. How do you die to Self? You can't. God must bring you into this death. And when He does, then it is that you'll discover the life God has for you in Jesus.

Matthew 16:24-25
24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

Ben Collyer said:

well if you met someone who was chronically insecure about themself, to the point of total self rejection, what would you say?

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What makes you reject yourself? Where does the impulse to hate who you are come from? Does God make mistakes? Is His creation of you faulty or flawed in some way? How can that be if God is perfect?

Ben Collyer said:

We are only able to love others as much as we love ourselves, if our identity is rooted in negativity, we then dont love ourselves and so cant love others fully

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This is found no where in Scripture. In fact, the Bible says that no man ever yet hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it (Eph. 5:29). Our problem is that we love ourselves too much which is why we get preoccupied with our perceived inadequacies. We aren't attractive enough, or strong enough, or smart enough, or whatever, and vain and ego-centric Self hates that it can't claim first place in all these categories. And so Self provokes us into profound dissatisfaction, and insecurity, and self-loathing. All of these things, though, are at bottom just perverse expressions of pride. If we weren't prideful, if we weren't self-centered, we wouldn't care that we aren't the prettiest, or smartest, or most gifted, etc, would we?

1 Peter 5:5-6
5 ...be clothed with humility, for "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble."
6 Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,

I am learning that to obey the Spirit of Christ ("whatever is not of faith is sin") causes me to find affirmation. Like when I don't feel forgiveness and yet forgive. When I don't feel patient and yet hold my tongue and ride out the wild bronco of will within me. The affirmation I eventually feel inside later? Well, that's not just "me"; there's a source from which some of that "Good on ya" came from.

Truly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains by itself. But if it dies, it produces much fruit. I assure you that unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it can only be a single seed. But if it dies, it bears much fruit (John 12:24 ~ CEB)

I don't know how most of the spiritual maturation in me would have occurred unless, to some degree, I had obeyed despite my reservations/against my will, etc! I think doing so is in and of itself a form of belief and a way of proactively admitting we will be better off in the process. Maybe in the short term, maybe somewhere down the line, maybe in Glory.

This is maturation and we will never have an hermetically-sealed interior "I love myslef, therefore I love you" mechanism to move us. The Christ--who is love? Yes. But the "Me"--who is all loving? No. Why? Because even within the tightest of unions, even where the love for the prodigal prevails, there are times that that son will not love--but rather sin. That does not ruin relationship. But to continue to love as Jesus, we must then confess (1 John 1:9) And in the process of confession, we must be brave enough (and I think Jesus constantly invites us to do so) to admit we must love, despite our inner tendencies, etc., with a greater goal in-mind.

Here's what motivates me to walk in love when it's easy and to die to self and walk in love when it is not: "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Hebrews 11:6 ~ KJV).

I think that your identity will come from talking to God, reading the scriptures and upholding what is right with God for you. This does not come quickly for all of us some of us struggle at every step of the way. For me, when I fully understood the scripture I was reading and applied it to my own life, I had gained a piece of myself that was not there before. Thus, I gained in my own identity.

Ben, there are some very good things in this thread to remind you of your value and your identity in the Kingdom. I'm going to talk about something other than prayer and meditation - not that those aren't good things to do, because they are, but there are other things you can do in addition.

Go back as far as you can in your memory and identify the first time you felt hurt, sad, betrayed, like you were not good enough, couldn't measure up, didn't matter, left out, rejected. Think about how those experiences and feelings contributed to the core belief that you should be insecure in yourself. When you go back in your memory, pray and ask Jesus where he was during that time. I'll bet he will answer you, that he was there with you, and he knows why you have become so insecure.

Try to nail down the exact core belief. Is it that you feel unworthy? Unworthy of what? Is it that you've been told you're never going to measure up? Measure up to what? Somebody else? Maybe measure up to perfection? Now, when you have a specific time when you feel insecure, try to figure out what the immediate thought was right before the feeling of insecurity. What was the thought? Once you have identified the thought, take it captive and make it obedient to Jesus - that is, combat the thought that leads to insecurity, and remind yourself of your identity in Jesus, who you are as a dearly, beloved child of God Almighty and co-heir with Jesus in his Kingdom. The key is taking the thought and making it powerless by bringing in the power of the Word. Every time you feel insecure, identify the thought, and turn that thought upside-down, making your thoughts align with God's thoughts of you.

This won't happen overnight. It might take a lifetime. You know the truth in your head, but you internalize it with practice so that you won't just know it, but you will believe it.

Ben Collyer said:

For example, Identity, if I wanted to believe in my heart my identity, and thus be free of all insecurity, How would I go about doing that? someone might say

"meditate on scriptures regarding your identity" but I have tried that and nothing shifted inside me.

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Knowledge is wonderful and we should seek it. However, more importantly is faith. We can have all of the knowledge in the world but to find our place in it, we must have faith. Faith that we were created for a reason, for a purpose, faith that we are important because we here.

More importantly, if we are Christian, we must have faith that if asked, God will show us what His purpose for us is. Wisdom (true knowledge as far as I'm concerned) comes from God and we should seek it.

Yes, Christians must meditate on scriptures as our need for God is great.

Ben Collyer said:

For example, Identity, if I wanted to believe in my heart my identity, and thus be free of all insecurity, How would I go about doing that? someone might say

"meditate on scriptures regarding your identity" but I have tried that and nothing shifted inside me.

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Charles Capps and other like-minded teachers teach that the spoken word and the spoken Word of God, in the form of confessions or affirmations is the actual mechanism to get an idea from your mind to your heart. Words spoken are extremely powerful and can be used to mold you future.

Ben Collyer said:

For example, Identity, if I wanted to believe in my heart my identity, and thus be free of all insecurity, How would I go about doing that? someone might say

"meditate on scriptures regarding your identity" but I have tried that and nothing shifted inside me.

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The implications of insecure doctrines promote feelings of insecure identity. I once held several of them, and became enslaved to them, to the extent that all too often the focus of faith became more of a focus inward on self, rather than outward towards Christ. As Scripture would have it, my identity is found in Christ, and His work, and His righteouness.

Ben Collyer said:

For example, Identity, if I wanted to believe in my heart my identity, and thus be free of all insecurity, How would I go about doing that? someone might say

"meditate on scriptures regarding your identity" but I have tried that and nothing shifted inside me.

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Your identity is in Christ as long as you remain in Him.
" I am the vine and you are the branches. You can bear no fruit of yourself"
As long as you walk out your salvation daily with Jesus, your identity is that you are Gods child. Does this then mean that you won't have insecurities or trials or even persecution? No, if it were the case, half the bible didn't need to be written. Satan will always try to get you to doubt who you are in Christ, he bloody well hates you.

Have faith in Jesus Christ, without faith we cannot please God. With your faith, walk with Christ and never be insecure if doing so, if you fall pick yourself up and continue on. Never doubt your identity in Christ if you are with Christ.