Why doesnt Jesus

Jenniferdiana said:

Why doesnt Jesus know the hour except the father? Why cant he know?

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If He knows though He indicated He doesn't, wouldn't that basically make Him a liar for saying only the Father knows that day and hour, if He too now knows that day and hour?

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

In two accounts Jesus clearly indicated that only the Father knows that day and hour. Why would that change before that day and hour arrives, that Jesus too eventually knows that day and hour? That day and hour hasn't arrived yet, right? So why wouldn't what Jesus indicated in these passages be the case all the way up until this is literally fulfilled, that only the Father knows that day and hour?

So this is basically how I might reason it, thus I'm not making Jesus contradict Himself by concluding He eventually too knows that day and hour before that day and hour arrives.

Funny that you should ask this question today, Jenniferdiana, as I was thinking about this very matter today while I was driving to Wal-Mart.

Simple he could not know it because he was in human body , angels aswell don't know it because they have no ability to do so . When Christ appear we will see him like he is that mean we will have resurrected body just like Christ does and we will be in however many dimensions he is currently enjoying

1 John 3:2 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Jesus could walk through walls and disappear immediately after his resurrection , we will be able to do same things in our new bodies .

So our human body is limited to 3 dimensions + time so to 4 dimensions . We can't get to smaller areas and smaller amount of time than planck's constants , we are literally in cage right now called universe , when he comes for us he will release us from this universe by giving us new bodies and we will be outside of time just like Christ is .

That's why he could not say to you when it is .

Also God gave revelation about Jesus to Jesus so Jesus can put it in signs for us and gave it to John. To be able to put future events into signs you must know when they will occur right , so he does know when they occur now .

Revelation 1

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Jenniferdiana said:

I dont know. Im confused.

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Maybe the following might help explain things? Apparently the Father and the Son are not equal in hierarchy. Because if they were, why did Jesus come to do the will of the Father, rather than come to do His own will instead? Why didn't the Father just send Himself rather than sending the Son? We could go on and on with more examples, but I see no reason to if these two examples are already making the point I'm trying to make. So if according to hierarchy, that the Father is in a higher position than the Son, why would it be unreasonable to assume the Father might know things the Son might not? Do not each have a mind of their own? Would the Son necessarily always be privy to what the Father is thinking at all times?

Jenniferdiana said:

Why doesnt Jesus know the hour except the father? Why cant he know?

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He may know now. (TODAY, He May Know)

Jenniferdiana said:

Ive always wondered about that though..lol i dont get it

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That's 'normal', as there are perhaps hundreds, thousands, or more
things that people "don't get".
YHWH is so far higher than people, this is as He Says, and really not a surprise.

We simply believe His Word is TRUTH, as it always is,
and
trust and rely on Him to DO what is best.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

He may know now. (TODAY, He May Know)

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What causes you to conclude that? If He didn't know that day and hour when He spoke those things 2000 years ago, this tells us that He also didn't know that day and hour before He left heaven and was born a man. That would account for the past and present. Why would it have to be different in the future then, meaning before that day and hour actually arrives?

DavidPT said:

What causes you to conclude that?

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Who said ANYONE concluded that ?

DavidPT said:

If He didn't know that day and hour when He spoke those things 2000 years ago, this tells us that He didn't know that day and hour before He left heaven and was born a man.

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Sorry, no.
He is not restricted in the ways men think , ever.

His Ways are as high as heaven is above the earth, greater than the greatest thinkers among men by far, as His Word Says.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Sorry, no.

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Why no? How could He have known that day and hour before He left heaven, but didn't know it after He left heaven? Obviously He remembered things that took place in heaven before He left heaven, concerning Him and the Father. Did He develop amnesia or something when it came to no longer knowing this day and hour, though while in heaven He did know that day and hour?

DavidPT said:

Maybe the following might help explain things? Apparently the Father and the Son are not equal in hierarchy. Because if they were, why did Jesus come to do the will of the Father, rather than come to do His own will instead? Why didn't the Father just send Himself rather than sending the Son? We could go on and on with more examples, but I see no reason to if these two examples are already making the point I'm trying to make. So if according to hierarchy, that the Father is in a higher position than the Son, why would it be unreasonable to assume the Father might know things the Son might not? Do not each have a mind of their own? Would the Son necessarily always be privy to what the Father is thinking at all times?

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Father came to earth in form of Son of God , you can't separate them these 3 are in 1 (everybody forgets HS ;c ) . I have like plenty of verses to show you for example these two :

There is only one God

Isa 45:22
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Only God can pay the price for your sins
Psalm 49
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.

God will provide himself a lamb ( when you read in hebrew it's like God will appear himself as offering )
Genesis 22
8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.


Jesus Christ is the Father also
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus Christ was in heaven while being on earth in that same time , because he is both Father , Son and Holy Spirit because these three are one and you can't separate them .

John 3
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:


Jesus literally said that he is in heaven while being on earth talking to Nicodemus

Hope it helps .

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Sorry, no.
He is not restricted in the ways men think , ever.

His Ways are as high as heaven is above the earth, greater than the greatest thinkers among men by far, as His Word Says.

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Jesus was made for the moment he was on earth less in power than angels . All miracles what he did was not of him but of Father through Holy Spirit .

Hebrews 2:7
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

John 12
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

John 14
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Who said ANYONE concluded that ?

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So you were basically meaning that it's possible that He may now know, and not that you were concluding He 100% does? And if so, sorry for the confusion on my part.

Jenniferdiana said:

Why doesnt Jesus know the hour except the father? Why cant he know?

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I just accept it is so because it is so. We don't need to know why or when. We just need to be ready.