7 seals of Revelation - Bible study LIVE

LivingRightInWrongWorld said:

Our church just made a live YouTube Bible study on Revelation 6 and future events. We touched the first 6 seals. What are your opinions on it?

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In the video, the commentator says the AntiChrist is a one world leader that will bring peace.

Okay, the commentary needs a lot of refinement in eschatology. The commentator is right that the rider on the white horse is the Antichrist.

But that person is the Antichrist because he will have been anointed the King of Israel - the reason of being given a crown. "Anti" Christ mean instead of and against the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

And the false peace and safety will be because following Gog/Magog, Israel will think she is on the threshold of the messianic age of peace and safety. And the world will be convinced as well.

"The" Christ in the New Testament functionally means the "King of Israel". Language wise, Christ or messiah comes from Greek, which takes from the Hebrew word meaning "anointed".

From John4:25
25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

Jesus is the rightful promised great King of Israel, son of David, but was rejected by the Jews - who for a short time will accept another as their King.

From Mark 15:32
32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

From John 12:
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

So it is imperative to understand that the rider on the white horse - is a not simply a "one world leader". But specifically, the person having been anointed by Israel as the King of Israel. By extension, Jews do believe that the world will see this person as the real messiah - who brings peace to the world. So that person will have global influence.

And being the "real" messiah, as such many in Christianity will fall away from believing Jesus is the messiah - 2Thessalonians2:3. One of the things that will precede the Day of the Lord.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Why can't people see and understand that the first five Seals were opened by Jesus at His Ascension? Revelation 5:7 and Revelation 6:1
This is proved by the wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters the world has experienced since then. How many more of those terrible things do you need to fulfil those 4 Seals?
But the Fifth Seal clinches it, as it includes all the martyrs since Stephen and still being added to today.
Plainly the Sixth Seal awaits fulfilment, it will be the world changer that will set the scene for a One World Govt and for the Redemption and gathering of the Lord's righteous people, now every faithful Christian person.
Wait for the Day!

keras said:

Why can't people see and understand that the first five Seals were opened by Jesus at His Ascension? Revelation 5:7 and Revelation 6:1
This is proved by the wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters the world has experienced since then. How many more of those terrible things do you need to fulfil those 4 Seals?
But the Fifth Seal clinches it, as it includes all the martyrs since Stephen and still being added to today.
Plainly the Sixth Seal awaits fulfilment, it will be the world changer that will set the scene for a One World Govt and for the Redemption and gathering of the Lord's righteous people, now every faithful Christian person.
Wait for the Day!

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Opened - yes. Otherwise, we would not know what was contained. I think most people unconsciously use the wrong terminology. I think they mean when the events revealed by unsealing the seals begin to be fulfilled.

None of the seals have begun to be fulfilled. The world certainly was not at peace back at the time John received Revelation.

The fifth seal doesn't apply to Stephen, but the great tribulation martyred saints.

No world government beginning due to the sixth seal, but the gathering of the armies of the world at the very end of the 7 years to try and stop Jesus.

The seals cover the 70th week, 7 years of Daniel 9.

Douggg said:

Opened - yes. Otherwise, we would not know what was contained. I think most people unconsciously use the wrong terminology. I think they mean when the events revealed by unsealing the seals begin to be fulfilled.

None of the seals have begun to be fulfilled. The world certainly was not at peace back at the time John received Revelation.

The fifth seal doesn't apply to Stephen, but the great tribulation martyred saints.

No world government beginning due to the sixth seal, but the gathering of the armies of the world at the very end of the 7 years to try and stop Jesus.

The seals cover the 70th week, 7 years of Daniel 9.

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the seals do not cover the so-called 70th week (of which there is no such thing). There are 2 covenant periods that are broken into 2 halves. Covenant with Death, and the Mosaic covenant.

the 'tribulation' occurs in each of the 1st halves of these 2 covenants - which are shortened each time. the translation of Daniel 9:24-27 is misleading: 'he will stop sacrifices for half the week' not necessarily 'he will stop sacrifices in the middle of the week, ie the 2nd half'. Which half is it talking about? It doesn't say, because it is ambiguous on purpose.

Revelation is designed as a fractal pattern, so that evil people (if they so desired) could use prophecy to prove that they are correct in sinning.

Nation state Israel has to go through a perceived 'Jacob's trouble' before they reach their 'messiah'. Then they will accept the false prophet, who leads them astray into worshiping Lucifer, the king of Babylon (guess who that is).

keras said:

Why can't people see and understand that the first five Seals were opened by Jesus at His Ascension? Revelation 5:7 and Revelation 6:1
This is proved by the wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters

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Wars, famines, plagues, disasters happens since the ancient times among kingdoms, be4 Jesus was even birthed and gave Revelation to Apostle John.

But Jesus speaks about a time where the tribulation will be unequaled to any other time.

Matt 24:21 There will be a lot of misery at THAT TIME, a kind of misery that has not happened from the beginning of the world until now and will certainly never happen again.

It means this will only happen at the end of times which is the 7 years of Grief Tribulation, begins with the 1st seal opening where antichrist comes to make fake peace.

tranquil said:

the seals do not cover the so-called 70th week (of which there is no such thing). There are 2 covenant periods that are broken into 2 halves. Covenant with Death, and the Mosaic covenant.

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All of the end times time frames fit within the 7 years. The confirming of the (Mt. Sinai) covenant for 7 years was established by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. The 7 years are in the text.

Following Gog/Magog are 7 years, then the Armageddon feast in Ezekiel 39:17-20.

In Revelation 12, the first half of the 7 years are the 1260 days in Revelation 12:6. Then the war in heaven (the second heaven). And Satan and his angels cast down, restricted to earth, for the time, times, half times in Revelation 12:14, the second half of the 7 years.

Douggg said:

Opened - yes. Otherwise, we would not know what was contained. I think most people unconsciously use the wrong terminology. I think they mean when the events revealed by unsealing the seals begin to be fulfilled.

None of the seals have begun to be fulfilled. The world certainly was not at peace back at the time John received Revelation.

The fifth seal doesn't apply to Stephen, but the great tribulation martyred saints.

No world government beginning due to the sixth seal, but the gathering of the armies of the world at the very end of the 7 years to try and stop Jesus.

The seals cover the 70th week, 7 years of Daniel 9.

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Yu'all can believe what you want. I will believe Revelation 5 and 6, where Jesus commenced opening the Seals at His Ascension.

As each Seal is opened, the things described therein; take place. It is sheer unscriptural speculation to think they don't happen right away.
Revelation 6:9-11 clearly states that is all the souls of those killed for God's Word and their testimony. This absolutely applies to Stephen.

keras said:

Yu'all can believe what you want. I will believe Revelation 5 and 6, where Jesus commenced opening the Seals at His Ascension.

As each Seal is opened, the things described therein; take place. It is sheer unscriptural speculation to think they don't happen right away.
Revelation 6:9-11 clearly states that is all the souls of those killed for God's Word and their testimony. This absolutely applies to Stephen.

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WRONG..........STILL.

LivingRightInWrongWorld said:

I don't believe our Lord Jesus would give John a revelation, a vision, of the things that already happened at His ascension. It is clearly a vision of the end times. Like we say in the video, some similiar things might already be happening on a smaller scale, and those are foreshadowing of the things that are about to come when those seals are opened.

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Why not?
All prophecy is for our information and knowledge of what the Lord has planned. Past, present and future.

Those who like to think the first five Seals remain to be opened, simply do not know the historical record properly, of the practically continuous murderous wars, the terrible famines, the plagues; Black death, typhus, the Spanish Influenza of 1919 that killed whole towns, they just don't know how many died then; anywhere between 50 to 100 million people. Now we have AIDS and Ebola, +
If those four 'horsemen' could be doing their work any better, there would be no one left alive!

Revelation 6:9 is plain: the souls of those slain for their faith are kept under the heavenly Altar. This has to include every martyr from Stephen, to those tortured to death in the Inquisition, to the girl shot at Columbine, to those being killed now by Islamic crazies.

Those four 'horsemen' will continue their horrible work right up to the time Jesus Returns and then the number of those martyred will be complete. Revelation 6:11

keras said:

Yu'all can believe what you want. I will believe Revelation 5 and 6, where Jesus commenced opening the Seals at His Ascension.

As each Seal is opened, the things described therein; take place. It is sheer unscriptural speculation to think they don't happen right away.
Revelation 6:9-11 clearly states that is all the souls of those killed for God's Word and their testimony. This absolutely applies to Stephen.

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It's important to pay close attention to events in Scripture, and be careful to not add ideas that don't belong there:

Rev 5:7-10
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
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Those in Rev.5 are about these AFTER Jesus has returned, meaning Millennial timing:

Rev 14:1-5
14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having His Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
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Even the Rev.15:2-4 verses are another view of the redeemed, which we know happens at Christ's return when He will take over all kingdoms of this world, and end the future tribulation.

So what perspective does that put the Seals of Rev.6 into?

The idea of our Lord Jesus opening the Seals in Rev.5 is about opening them up in understanding to His servants. It's because those events in the Seals are the same seven signs He gave His disciples about the end of this world while upon the Mount of Olives.

keras said:

Why not?
All prophecy is for our information and knowledge of what the Lord has planned. Past, present and future.

Those who like to think the first five Seals remain to be opened, simply do not know the historical record properly, of the practically continuous murderous wars, the terrible famines, the plagues; Black death, typhus, the Spanish Influenza of 1919 that killed whole towns, they just don't know how many died then; anywhere between 50 to 100 million people. Now we have AIDS and Ebola, +
If those four 'horsemen' could be doing their work any better, there would be no one left alive!

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Our Lord Jesus revealed in His Olivet Discourse that those signs would occur in the final generation that would see them. That doesn't mean over a period of 2,000 years. It means in the last generation, the generation on earth that will see His coming:

Matt 24:32-34
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
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He was not... speaking of "these things" being fulfilled in the generation era of those disciples who were with Him there on the Mount of Olives. He was speaking that about the last generation on earth seeing all those things.

Thus, the generation that begins to see 'these things' will not pass until all is fulfilled. That's the meaning there.

And those signs He gave there parallel the Seals of Rev.6, the last sign being that of His coming.

keras said:

Revelation 6:9 is plain: the souls of those slain for their faith are kept under the heavenly Altar. This has to include every martyr from Stephen, to those tortured to death in the Inquisition, to the girl shot at Columbine, to those being killed now by Islamic crazies.

Those four 'horsemen' will continue their horrible work right up to the time Jesus Returns and then the number of those martyred will be complete. Revelation 6:11

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That Rev.6:9-11 section about the 5th Seal isn't telling you that began with Stephen, for even many of the OT prophets before were slain for The Word of God.

The 5th Seal is about ALL... those since God's Salvation was preached, and they were slain for it. The Rev.6:11 verse is especially about those on earth yet... to be slain for the same thing, pointing to the future time of great tribulation:

Rev 6:11
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
KJV

LivingRightInWrongWorld said:

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Our church just made a live YouTube Bible study on Revelation 6 and future events. We touched the first 6 seals. What are your opinions on it?

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Since the YouTube video was removed, I can't comment on it.

But here's a look at how I see the Seals...

1st Seal - (assumed first seal; doesn't really say 1st seal) - one on a white horse wearing a victory wreath for a crown (Greek stephanos means 'to twine') and having a bow of cheap fabric (Greek toxon). This rider is pointing to the coming pseudo-Christ of Matt.24:

If that rider were Jesus, He wouldn't be coming on the 1st Seal to conquer the world. Jesus comes to conquer this world at the end of the tribulation, not before it.

This rider is the false messiah. The reason why it is given as a first warning in Rev.6 is because it is the first thing Jesus warned us about in His Olivet Discourse:

Mark 13:5
5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
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2nd Seal - a red horse, i.e. a war horse. That's the sign in His Olivet Discourse where He warned that we shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, but... the end is NOT YET. (Matt.24:6). So as long as wars are going on, the events for the very end of this present world, are not yet. And the very end is about these tribulation events when the majority will believe world peace and safety has come on earth (1 Thess.5).

3rd Seal - black horse, balances, measure of wheat for a penny, etc. - it's about the balances of commerce. The expression of a measure of wheat for a penny is put for having to work all day just to buy a loaf of bread. Weak economy and inflation it's pointing to. But don't hurt the Oil or the Wine, which are Biblical symbols of God's Truth by The Holy Spirit and our Lord Jesus' Blood shed on the cross.

4th Seal - a pale horse; Death riding on it. Hell followed with him. Power over 4th part of earth to kill with with 1) a sword, 2) hunger, 3) death, 4) beasts.

That I believe is more in the spiritual sense than literal sense, reason being because in Rev.9 those not sealed with God's Seal are not allowed to be killed by the devil's servants. And per Amos 8:11, the famine for the last days is not for bread or water, but for hearing The Words of The LORD. "Death" is being used as a title for Satan.

This Seal parallels the signs Jesus gave in Matt.24 & Mark 13 about famines and troubles and earthquakes is divers places, i.e., the beginning of sorrows. I believe we are very close to this point today.

5th Seal - the souls under the altar

The direct parallel to those yet to be slain as they were is in Mark 13:9-13 and Matthew 24:9-10. That is pointing to the future time of great tribulation.

6th Seal (Part I) - great earthquake, sun becomes black, moon appears as blood, stars fall as untimely figs.

Parallel is Mark 13:14-23 and Matthew 24:15-28 about the time of great tribulation with the false messiah in Jerusalem working great signs and wonders to deceive with.

This is the actual timing of the false rider on the white horse. Remember, the 1st Seal label is not specifically mentioned back at Rev.6:1 ("one of the seals"). The stars falling like untimely figs is pointing to the idea of a winter fig that grows early and then falls off in the spring. The idea is about the false messiah who comes first, before our Lord Jesus does, and falling away to bow to that false one in place of our Lord Jesus (2 Cor.11). We are to wait for our Lord Jesus' coming after that. This is why Apostle Paul was warning us about this in 2 Thess.2, because some false ones were trying to claim a different order of events for Christ's return with fake letters as if from Paul and the Apostles.

6th Seal (Part II) - heaven departed as a scroll, every mountain and island moved, kings of the earth and every great man try to hide from the wrath of The Lamb (Jesus). This is pointing to the day of Christ's second coming on the day of The Lord and 7th trumpet when He will take over all kingdoms on this earth.

This attempt to hide in the rocks and wanting for the mountains and hills to fall on them is also covered in Luke 23 when Jesus was speaking of the deceived. It is about their shame when the True Messiah suddenly appears, and the deceived are shocked because of going after the false messiah who comes first.

Douggg said:

All of the end times time frames fit within the 7 years. The confirming of the (Mt. Sinai) covenant for 7 years was established by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. The 7 years are in the text.

Following Gog/Magog are 7 years, then the Armageddon feast in Ezekiel 39:17-20.

In Revelation 12, the first half of the 7 years are the 1260 days in Revelation 12:6. Then the war in heaven (the second heaven). And Satan and his angels cast down, restricted to earth, for the time, times, half times in Revelation 12:14, the second half of the 7 years.

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Yes, Satan is present in the 2nd 42 month period, but that is not the same as saying the '2nd half', because it isn't exactly '7 years'.

Yes, the Mosaic covenant is read every 7 years, but that is not the same as the 'tribulation' lasting for 7 years. When the Mosaic covenant is confirmed by the false prophet, and then broken by the false prophet in the middle of the 7, that is when the curses for disobedience are poured out onto the unfaithful
Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 28:15-68 - New International Version

aka the 7 bowls of wrath, the 6th bowl war being Armageddon. the armageddon feast is this from the Deut curses

you said yourself that the Gog war occurs before the 7 year covenant is confirmed, so why are you saying the 'tribulation' is exactly 7 years? Obviously, it is longer than 7 years. In fact, Daniel 12:11-12 tells us how long exactly the tribulation is: 1290 + 1335 days, which is exactly 42 Bible months/ lunar months/ 1239 days (aka 'time, times, and half a time') + 5 bible months (147 days, the 5th Trumpet lasts for 5 months) + 1239 days (42 months, 'time, times, and half a time').




the false prophet will come after Israel has perceived to have gone through 'Jacob's trouble'.

Revelation is a fractal pattern because 1290 days breaks down to 147 days (5 months of Locusts that cut off the daily sacrifice Joel 1:4-9, then an abomination is placed in the symbolic temple by these locusts. 2300 evening and morning sacrifices = 1150 days - 7 days to consecrate it back to normal Ezekiel 43:26 = 1143 days of defilement. 147 + 1143 = 1290

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the regular burnt offering is taken away and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days.

In this manner, it will appear that the Trumpets have started come the winter solstice/ Dec 21, 2017, go forward 5 months to a temple being defiled in a false fulfillment of the 2nd woe, Rev 11.

Dec 21, 2017 + 1290 days = dusk July 3, 2021 which breaks the 'covenant in the middle of 70 7's/ 245 years. Declaration of Independence, dusk July 3rd, 1776 day July 4, 1776 + 245 years = dusk July 3, 2021.

So, the actual 'covenant' will be confirmed on Jan 20, 2018 (1 exact year after Trumps Inauguration Day), add 1260 days to get dusk July 3, 2021. From the Jewish perspective, the 1335 days will start on this date, Jan 20, 2018 to get to dusk Sept 16, 2021. The 'blessed 1335th day' would thus be Day of Atonement, dusk Sept 15, 2021/ day Sept 16, 2021. From the Jewish point of view, this would indicate they have found their messiah, who will perform the priest duties of announcing the Jubilee on Yom Kippur. But from the Christian POV, this would be the false prophet, because

1290 + 1335 days = 42 lunar/ Bible months/ 1239 days + 147 days (5 months) + 42 months/ 1239 days. that ending day (2625 days after Dec 21, 2017) would be dusk Feb 27, 2025. From dusk Sept 16, 2021 (the 'messiah taking over priest duties on Yom Kippur) to dusk Feb 27, 2025 is exactly 1260 days and would be when the 2 witnesses would be witnessing.

tranquil said:

you said yourself that the Gog war occurs before the 7 year covenant is confirmed, so why are you saying the 'tribulation' is exactly 7 years?

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I never said the "tribulation" is 7 years.

I don't use the term "tribulation" applied to the 7 years because for most of the first half, the world will be saying peace and safety.

The "great tribulation" will be the last 1335 days of the 7 years.

tranquil said:

In fact, Daniel 12:11-12 tells us how long exactly the tribulation is: 1290 + 1335 days,

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No, you are misunderstanding Daniel 12:11-12. Everything fits within the 7 years.



The last 1335 days begin on day 1185 of the seven years.

On day 2475 (day 1185+1290 days) the heavens part and the world sees Jesus before the throne of God.

From day 2475 to day 2520 when Jesus descends down to earth - the world's armies will assemble at Armageddon during that 45 days to make war on Jesus.

day 1185 + 1290 days + 45 days = 2520 days = 7 years.

In this manner, it will appear that the Trumpets have started come the winter solstice/ Dec 21, 2017

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Where in bible prophecy are you finding the winter solstice? And why are you referring to the American day of Independence? And what has bible prophecy got to do with Trump's inauguration day?

LivingRightInWrongWorld said:

Our church just made a live YouTube Bible study on Revelation 6 and future events. We touched the first 6 seals. What are your opinions on it?

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I watched it in full not a bad effort at all. There are a few minor things they need to brush upon. The White Horse does not mean Peace pe se nor purity. The White Horse signifies a Conqueror, through the ages it always has, thus when Jesus comes back to earth in Rev. 19 he Conquers and when the Anti-Christ comes forth, after Jesus opens the First Seal, he also Conquers, he gained his advantage however pre the First Seal via a FAKE PEACE, just as they describe, but its not associated with the White Horse which comes to conquer, the Peace is the head fake just before the Conquering. ( Conqueror does not = Peace ).

Rev. 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. (The Crown signifies a PRIZE WON via the Greek, its a different Crown than Jesus has, the words are different.)

Thus the Red Horse takes away Peace from the earth signifying peace was brought forth.

The Black Horse brings Famine.

The Pale (Green) horse brings Sickness and Death of course all of these things come via the Beast or Anti-Christs Actions, he becomes the Beast when he Conquers Jerusalem. Some would have us believe that Israel accepts this man as their King or Messiah but that is not what the Scriptures say, thus that is of Satan, not of God. The scriptures clearly say Israel accept Jesus as their Messiah before the Day of the Lord arrives (Malachi 4:5-6, Zechariah 12:10 and Zechariah 13:1).

The 5th Seal Martyrs are of course those Christians shown in Rev. 12:17, they are Martyred for their faith, whereas the Jewish peoples who flee unto the Wilderness are protected for 1260 days. Those under the Alter are the REMNANT, not the Church, who have of course been Raptured and are in Heaven preparing to marry the Lamb, then return with him. These Martyrs are told specifically they must wait until their fellow brothers are killed also, meaning of course until the Beasts 42 Month reign is over. They are the Beheaded who are judged in Rev. 20:4 and reign with Christ 1000 years. The Bride IMHO, goes back to heaven and returns inside the New Jerusalem thus it is called the Bride of Christ as it descends.

Satan/Dragon chases the Woman (Israel) trying to kill her off via the Beast/Anti-Christ, he does kill off the Remnant of the Church who refuse to take the Mark of the Beast, BUT.....He also kills off every Religion at this time, he does not seek to combine all religions of the world under ONE UMBRELLA, that is just not factual, here is where the Kings (Revelation 17:16) kill off the Harlot (False Religion) they seek to make the whole world worship the Beast and his image as the ONLY GOD !! Thus they will destroy Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all religions when the Beast first comes to power as a Conqueror in Seal Number One. This is why we have all the Deaths (1/4 of all mankind). These Muslims blow up infidels because they deem Allah such a great God, but we are supposed to believe they are gong to worship a "MAN" as God !! Give me a break. The Anti-Christ/BEAST or Little Horn of Daniel has dark powers, he knows all of these things, he will be a master chess player, he will come to power knowing he is going to have to destroy Islam in order to be worshiped as God, so via the same FAKE PEACE he Conquers Jerusalem with, hes going to Conquer the Arab world and Islam in like manner. Hes not playing, if it takes a couple of Nukes to persuade them, boom, he is going to use the Nukes. It will be swift, like Hitler's blitzkriegs. The Harlot of Rev. 17 is killed off in Rev. chapter 6.

The 6th Seal is not the end however, there is still the Trumpets and Vials to come, a lot of people make this mistake. The Plagues get progressively worse, the Trumpets have a powerful Earthquake as does the Vials, when Jesus lands on the Mt. of Olives to defeat the Beast and his Minions. The 6th Seal is when the inhabitants of earth finally realize the are in the Day of the Lord or the Lambs Wrath via the Seals. The very first Seal was the Wrath of God, he allowed the BEAST to come forth on mankind because of His anger at mankind. The Church is in Heaven at this time, the REMNANT (Those who gave their lives to Christ after the Rapture) are still on earth and will be the Beheaded Martyrs.

The Seventh Seal is of course all Seven of the Trumpets in one. The Seventh Seal therefore brings forth the Seven Trumpets and Vials.

Revealing Times said:

The Pale (Green) horse brings Sickness and Death of course all of these things come via the Beast or Anti-Christs Actions, he becomes the Beast when he Conquers Jerusalem. Some would have us believe that Israel accepts this man as their King or Messiah but that is not what the Scriptures say, thus that is of Satan, not of God. The scriptures clearly say Israel accept Jesus as their Messiah before the Day of the Lord arrives (Malachi 4:5-6, Zechariah 13:10 and Zechariah 13:1).

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Malachi 4:5-7 prophesied of sending Elijah. In Matt.11:13-14 Jesus said John the Baptist represented the coming of Elijah, but the unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem rejected John, and Christ Jesus.

You mean Zech.13:9, not verse 10 (there is no verse 10 there). The one-third to be tried by fire, refined as silver, try as gold is tried, is about those not deceived by the coming pseudo-Christ in our near future of BOTH... believing Jews and believing Gentiles on Christ Jesus, i.e., the Christian Church. That's who the symbolic woman is past Rev.12:7.

Zech.13:1 is a future forward view for after... Jesus has returned and taken over all kingdoms on this earth. That "fountain" represents God's River of Ezekiel 47 and Revelation 22.

This means the one third of Zech.13:9 can ONLY be believers on Christ Jesus, the other two-thirds being deceived.

And Rev.13 and the Book of Daniel tells us more about the coming false one being given power over the saints (Christ's Church in ALL nations) for a period of 42 months. And that Daniel revealing was especially to Daniel's people and Jerusalem.

Rev 13:7-8
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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The only ones with their names written in the book of life are those who believe on Christ Jesus as the Savior, meaning the Christian Church. All others will be deceived by the coming false messiah, especially the unbelieving Jews in the state of Israel, because those unbelievers particularly will be the ones to treat the coming false one as the true Messiah they have waited for.

The trick of that future deception in Jerusalem just doesn't work if the unbelieving Jews there aren't fooled. They will be deceived, as the Scriptures point to it.