A Millennium Full Of Sacrificial Blood?

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Ezekiel 47 is not a description for the new earth time. The new earth - has no sea. but this chapter does

Ezekiel 47:15
"...your border...from the great sea..."
We have told you "Several Times" keras, Ezekiel 47 shows the tree and river of life present, the eternal kingdom.
 
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A Millennium Full Of Sacrificial Blood?

Heb 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 

Heb 10:17  And
their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 

Heb 10:18  Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.



Were there any "blood" sacrifices in the Old Testament that were not for sin?

 
Heb_9:7  But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:




Heb_9:12  Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.



Heb_9:13  For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

Heb_9:14  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?



Heb_9:18  Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

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That's nice and all, but I already said I didn't know the purpose of the sacrifices. All I know is the scriptures say they will exist.

All your post does is point out what will not be the reason. It doesn't actually negate the statements that show us they will be a part of that system.
 
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Many falsely teach there will be a future millennial kingdom on this earth, where a Jewish priest will sacrifice animals in a temple in Jerusalem.

These same people use Isaiah 65 as a proof text of this millennial kingdom.

How do these people justify this teaching, when Isaiah 65:25 clearly teaches there will be no hurt or destruction in the kingdom seen?

Isaiah 65:25KJV
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

How do these people justify animal sacrifice, in the kingdom seen in Isaiah 65?

Yes the kingdom seen is eternal, and there will be no animal sacrifice, for Jesus Christ was the perfect Lamb of God!

Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

Truth7t7

I have the idea that there will be pockets of peace throughout the Millenial world as well as pockets of rebelliousness. Jesus as King will easily keep a lid on things. To my knowledge the earth dwellers are not saved as they haven't been tested by the devil. When the devil is released after 1000 years, he is able to marshal an uncountable horde of followers. I would call that the final test for everyone remaining on the earth with some making it and some not.

I mention this only to show that the earth during the millenium is not a perfect place
 
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My bible does not state boiling meat, it states the will share, could be wheat, oil, etc, doesn't state meat.

Zechariah 14:21KJV
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.
That's nice and all, but I already said I didn't know the purpose of the sacrifices. All I know is the scriptures say they will exist.

All your post does is point out what will not be the reason. It doesn't actually negate the statements that show us they will be a part of that system.
 
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I have the idea that there will be pockets of peace throughout the Millenial world as well as pockets of rebelliousness. Jesus as King will easily keep a lid on things. To my knowledge the earth dwellers are not saved as they haven't been tested by the devil. When the devil is released after 1000 years, he is able to marshal an uncountable horde of followers. I would call that the final test for everyone remaining on the earth with some making it and some not.

I mention this only to show that the earth during the millenium is not a perfect place
When Jesus Christ returns/appears in the second advent, this earth will be dissolved by the Lords fire in judgment.

2 Peter 3:10-13, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Luke 17:29-30, Nahum 1:5, Isaiah 24:20, Malachi 3:2, 1 Corinthians 3:13

Jesus will not return to this earth, and hang out with mortal humans, he warned the believer against this false teaching. Matthew 24:23-27
 
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Many falsely teach there will be a future millennial kingdom on this earth, where a Jewish priest will sacrifice animals in a temple in Jerusalem.
As you state correctly, there shall no longer be any more animal sacrifices.

There shall be a kingdom on earth, I don't know if you object to that. And, though I am puzzled, it looks as if there is going to be a temple built again unless it is totally different in application than what it seems. Such a temple does not imply a Jewish priesthood at all since that has been replaced, and the priesthood now is going to be a Christian priesthood. This teaching many may not accept. I don't know if they do or not.
 
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As you state correctly, there shall no longer be any more animal sacrifices.

There shall be a kingdom on earth, I don't know if you object to that. And, though I am puzzled, it looks as if there is going to be a temple built again unless it is totally different in application than what it seems. Such a temple does not imply a Jewish priesthood at all since that has been replaced, and the priesthood now is going to be a Christian priesthood. This teaching many may not accept. I don't know if they do or not.
A new member, or possibly a repeat?

Noticed you joined a day ago, right in the topic as if you sailed in from New Zealand yesterday?
 
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Many falsely teach there will be a future millennial kingdom on this earth, where a Jewish priest will sacrifice animals in a temple in Jerusalem.

These same people use Isaiah 65 as a proof text of this millennial kingdom.

How do these people justify this teaching, when Isaiah 65:25 clearly teaches there will be no hurt or destruction in the kingdom seen?

Isaiah 65:25KJV
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

How do these people justify animal sacrifice, in the kingdom seen in Isaiah 65?

Yes the kingdom seen is eternal, and there will be no animal sacrifice, for Jesus Christ was the perfect Lamb of God!

Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

Truth7t7

As you recall in Biblical history many (including Jewish folks) rejected Jesus as the Messiah, many still do. So basically they dismiss the New Testament as being "credible". They Don't believe it, they don't teach it. i.e. Law of Moses (sacrificial system) is still in effect. They don't do it now because in that system it is required to be done in certain ways, as God Himself directed Moses back then. In a temple being one of those requirements. Re-visit
Exodus 34:10 and onwards, the "old covenant". This is where they coming from. Make no mistake this is still an important read and having a understanding of it sheds light on a lot of the new testament teachings.

What I find unusual is many folks who do believe in both the Old Testament and New Testament and Jesus is the Messiah then why is it believed that the temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem and that is where the "anti-christ" will eventually show himself?

If, the temple was to ever be re-built then yes, animal sacrifices would resume there, that is why personally I do not believe that is going to happen.

Yes, Jesus was the last sacrifice. "It is finished". The sacrificial system is no longer necessary, it was nailed to the cross. Jesus was and is the final sacrifice for all. Amen
 
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A new member, or possibly a repeat?

Noticed you joined a day ago, right in the topic as if you sailed in from New Zealand yesterday?
I am new, but first joined as no denom. I asked a moderator to help me out since I am quite fundamental in my Bible views, though I do not belong to a denomination. So, I was changed to Christian which is just fine with me because that is what I appear as on other sites.
 
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Many falsely teach there will be a future millennial kingdom on this earth, where a Jewish priest will sacrifice animals in a temple in Jerusalem.

These same people use Isaiah 65 as a proof text of this millennial kingdom.

How do these people justify this teaching, when Isaiah 65:25 clearly teaches there will be no hurt or destruction in the kingdom seen?

Isaiah 65:25KJV
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

How do these people justify animal sacrifice, in the kingdom seen in Isaiah 65?

Yes the kingdom seen is eternal, and there will be no animal sacrifice, for Jesus Christ was the perfect Lamb of God!

Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

Truth7t7
Jesus tipped over the tables of those who sold sacrificial animals in the temple. (Matthew 21, John 2, Mark 11)
Animal sacrifice was banned during the Byzantine empire.

How do they justify war, when it is stated in Isaiah:

Isaiah 2:4 (WEB)
He will judge between the nations,
and will decide concerning many peoples;
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
 
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and the priesthood now is going to be a Christian priesthood

1Pe 2:4  To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 
1Pe 2:5  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 
1Pe 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 
1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 
1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 
1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 
1Pe 2:10  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 


Christ told the woman at the well that worship would not be in earthly Jerusalem. John 4:20-24

We are stones in the spiritual temple.

You are correct in stating that we are now the priesthood.

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Psalm 40:6 (World English Bible - Public Domain) Sacrifice and offering you didn’t desire. You have opened my ears. You have not required burnt offering and sin offering.

Psalm 51:16-17 (WEB) You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. 17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, you God will not despise.

Isaiah 1:11 (WEB)
11 “What are the multitude of your sacrifices to me?”, says Yahweh. “I have had enough of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed animals. I don’t delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of male goats.
12 When you come to appear before me, who has required this at your hand, to trample my courts?
13 Bring no more vain offerings. Incense is an abomination to me; new moons, Sabbaths, and convocations: I can’t bear with evil assemblies.
14 My soul hates your New Moons and your appointed feasts. They are a burden to me. I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you spread out your hands, I will hide my eyes from you. Yes, when you make many prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash yourselves, make yourself clean. Put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes. Cease to do evil.
17 Learn to do well. Seek justice. Relieve the oppressed. Judge the fatherless. Plead for the widow.”

Hosea 6:6 (WEB) For I desire mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
 
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Jesus tipped over the tables of those who sold sacrificial animals in the temple. (Matthew 21, John 2, Mark 11)
Animal sacrifice was banned during the Byzantine empire.

How do they justify war, when it is stated in Isaiah:

Isaiah 2:4 (WEB)
He will judge between the nations,
and will decide concerning many peoples;
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more.
I agree, the eternal kingdom as seen in Isaiah chapter 2 is gonna be beautiful, the last part of the chapter shows the final day of the Lord taking place, that leads to the end of this world, also seen in revelation chapter 6..
 
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Many falsely teach there will be a future millennial kingdom on this earth, where a Jewish priest will sacrifice animals in a temple in Jerusalem.

These same people use Isaiah 65 as a proof text of this millennial kingdom.

How do these people justify this teaching, when Isaiah 65:25 clearly teaches there will be no hurt or destruction in the kingdom seen?

Isaiah 65:25KJV
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

How do these people justify animal sacrifice, in the kingdom seen in Isaiah 65?

Yes the kingdom seen is eternal, and there will be no animal sacrifice, for Jesus Christ was the perfect Lamb of God!

Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

Truth7t7

There's the zebach sh’lamim perhaps that's what the animals are sacrificed for?
These offering sacrifices mentioned here...Leviticus 7:11-17.
Because the Lord's sacrifice be for sin, Jesus' blood took care of that business
once and for all. He's our High Priest and the only one who gets to sit down
because His sacrifice for sin was perfect and his heavenly Father accepted it.
The zebach sh'lamim was commanded for Pentecost, at other times it was up to the worshiper.
Just what I've come across in my readings on the ancient biblical practices of
sacrifices.
 
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We believe it for one very simple reason. The Holy Spirit, the God who cannot lie, explicitl said that this will be done.

18 And He said to me, "Son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: 'These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it. 19 You shall give a young bull for a sin offering to the priests, the Levites, who are of the seed of Zadok, who approach Me to minister to Me,' says the Lord GOD. 20 You shall take some of its blood and put it on the four horns of the altar, on the four corners of the ledge, and on the rim around it; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it. 21 Then you shall also take the bull of the sin offering, and burn it in the appointed place of the temple, outside the sanctuary. 22 On the second day you shall offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they cleansed it with the bull. 23 When you have finished cleansing it, you shall offer a young bull without blemish, and a ram from the flock without blemish. 24 When you offer them before the LORD, the priests shall throw salt on them, and they will offer them up as a burnt offering to the LORD. 25 Every day for seven days you shall prepare a goat for a sin offering; they shall also prepare a young bull and a ram from the flock, both without blemish. 26 Seven days they shall make atonement for the altar and purify it, and so consecrate it. 27 When these days are over it shall be, on the eighth day and thereafter, that the priests shall offer your burnt offerings and your peace offerings on the altar; and I will accept you,' says the Lord GOD." Ezekiel 43:18-27

Again, it says,

15 "But the priests, the Levites, the sons of Zadok, who kept charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, they shall come near Me to minister to Me; and they shall stand before Me to offer to Me the fat and the blood," says the Lord GOD. 16 They shall enter My sanctuary, and they shall come near My table to minister to Me, and they shall keep My charge. 17 And it shall be, whenever they enter the gates of the inner court, that they shall put on linen garments; no wool shall come upon them while they minister within the gates of the inner court or within the house. 18 They shall have linen turbans on their heads and linen trousers on their bodies; they shall not clothe themselves with anything that causes sweat. 19 When they go out to the outer court, to the outer court to the people, they shall take off their garments in which they have ministered, leave them in the holy chambers, and put on other garments; and in their holy garments they shall not sanctify the people. 20 They shall neither shave their heads nor let their hair grow long; but they shall keep their hair well trimmed. 21 No priest shall drink wine when he enters the inner court. 22 They shall not take as wife a widow or a divorced woman, but take virgins of the descendants of the house of Israel, or widows of priests. 23 And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the unholy, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. 24 In controversy they shall stand as judges, and judge it according to My judgments. They shall keep My laws and My statutes in all My appointed meetings, and they shall hallow My Sabbaths. 25 They shall not defile themselves by coming near a dead person. Only for father or mother, for son or daughter, for brother or unmarried sister may they defile themselves. 26 After he is cleansed, they shall count seven days for him. 27 And on the day that he goes to the sanctuary to minister in the sanctuary, he must offer his sin offering in the inner court," says the Lord GOD. 28 "It shall be, in regard to their inheritance, that I am their inheritance. You shall give them no possession in Israel, for I am their possession. 29 They shall eat the grain offering, the sin offering, and the trespass offering; every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs. 30 The best of all firstfruits of any kind, and every sacrifice of any kind from all your sacrifices, shall be the priest's; also you shall give to the priest the first of your ground meal, to cause a blessing to rest on your house. 31 The priests shall not eat anything, bird or beast, that died naturally or was torn by wild beasts. Ezekiel 44:15-31

The explicit words of scripture are too strong a bind to be broken by any and all the reasonings of mere men.

Here the Holy Spirit explicitly says that animal sacrifices will be offered in that day. When people reason that this is impossible, they are forgetting that the God that changed the rules when He first gave the law through Moses, and who changed them again at the cross, has a perfect right to change them again, any time He wants to do it. And here, he has explicitly stated that these will be His rules at that time.

And the very few of us that have actually studies these sacrifices, have found that this order of worship is not only different from what we are told to do at this time, but that are also different from the laws given through Moses. This is most certainly NOT a return to the law of Moses, but a new law, one that takes into account the new covenant, but does the worship in a different way.

I say that the new covenant is here taken into account, because Jeremiah 3:16 explicitly says that there will no longer be an "ark of the covenant." That was the symbol of the old covenant, and it will be gone.
 
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Writer you quote Ezekiel chapters 43/44 as if this is a future temple and sacrificial system?

The temple seen, and sacrificial system seen was the 2nd Zerubbabel temple 536BC. The prophecy was given to Ezekiel in the 25th year of the Babylonian captivity, he was instructed to declare this prophecy to Israel in the captivity, this prophecy is "Fulfilled" :)

Ezekiel 40King James Version (KJV)
40 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the Lord was upon me, and brought me thither.
2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.
3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.
4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.
We believe it for one very simple reason. The Holy Spirit, the God who cannot lie, explicitl said that this will be done.

18 And He said to me, "Son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: 'These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it. 19 You shall give a young bull for a sin offering to the priests, the Levites, who are of the seed of Zadok, who approach Me to minister to Me,' says the Lord GOD. 20 You shall take some of its blood and put it on the four horns of the altar, on the four corners of the ledge, and on the rim around it; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it. 21 Then you shall also take the bull of the sin offering, and burn it in the appointed place of the temple, outside the sanctuary. 22 On the second day you shall offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they cleansed it with the bull. 23 When you have finished cleansing it, you shall offer a young bull without blemish, and a ram from the flock without blemish. 24 When you offer them before the LORD, the priests shall throw salt on them, and they will offer them up as a burnt offering to the LORD. 25 Every day for seven days you shall prepare a goat for a sin offering; they shall also prepare a young bull and a ram from the flock, both without blemish. 26 Seven days they shall make atonement for the altar and purify it, and so consecrate it. 27 When these days are over it shall be, on the eighth day and thereafter, that the priests shall offer your burnt offerings and your peace offerings on the altar; and I will accept you,' says the Lord GOD." Ezekiel 43:18-27

Again, it says,

15 "But the priests, the Levites, the sons of Zadok, who kept charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, they shall come near Me to minister to Me; and they shall stand before Me to offer to Me the fat and the blood," says the Lord GOD. 16 They shall enter My sanctuary, and they shall come near My table to minister to Me, and they shall keep My charge. 17 And it shall be, whenever they enter the gates of the inner court, that they shall put on linen garments; no wool shall come upon them while they minister within the gates of the inner court or within the house. 18 They shall have linen turbans on their heads and linen trousers on their bodies; they shall not clothe themselves with anything that causes sweat. 19 When they go out to the outer court, to the outer court to the people, they shall take off their garments in which they have ministered, leave them in the holy chambers, and put on other garments; and in their holy garments they shall not sanctify the people. 20 They shall neither shave their heads nor let their hair grow long; but they shall keep their hair well trimmed. 21 No priest shall drink wine when he enters the inner court. 22 They shall not take as wife a widow or a divorced woman, but take virgins of the descendants of the house of Israel, or widows of priests. 23 And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the unholy, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. 24 In controversy they shall stand as judges, and judge it according to My judgments. They shall keep My laws and My statutes in all My appointed meetings, and they shall hallow My Sabbaths. 25 They shall not defile themselves by coming near a dead person. Only for father or mother, for son or daughter, for brother or unmarried sister may they defile themselves. 26 After he is cleansed, they shall count seven days for him. 27 And on the day that he goes to the sanctuary to minister in the sanctuary, he must offer his sin offering in the inner court," says the Lord GOD. 28 "It shall be, in regard to their inheritance, that I am their inheritance. You shall give them no possession in Israel, for I am their possession. 29 They shall eat the grain offering, the sin offering, and the trespass offering; every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs. 30 The best of all firstfruits of any kind, and every sacrifice of any kind from all your sacrifices, shall be the priest's; also you shall give to the priest the first of your ground meal, to cause a blessing to rest on your house. 31 The priests shall not eat anything, bird or beast, that died naturally or was torn by wild beasts. Ezekiel 44:15-31

The explicit words of scripture are too strong a bind to be broken by any and all the reasonings of mere men.

Here the Holy Spirit explicitly says that animal sacrifices will be offered in that day. When people reason that this is impossible, they are forgetting that the God that changed the rules when He first gave the law through Moses, and who changed them again at the cross, has a perfect right to change them again, any time He wants to do it. And here, he has explicitly stated that these will be His rules at that time.

And the very few of us that have actually studies these sacrifices, have found that this order of worship is not only different from what we are told to do at this time, but that are also different from the laws given through Moses. This is most certainly NOT a return to the law of Moses, but a new law, one that takes into account the new covenant, but does the worship in a different way.

I say that the new covenant is here taken into account, because Jeremiah 3:16 explicitly says that there will no longer be an "ark of the covenant." That was the symbol of the old covenant, and it will be gone.
 
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Writer you quote Ezekiel chapters 43/44 as if this is a future temple and sacrificial system?

The temple seen, and sacrificial system seen was the 2nd Zerubbabel temple 536BC. The prophecy was given to Ezekiel in the 25th year of the Babylonian captivity, he was instructed to declare this prophecy to Israel in the captivity, this prophecy is "Fulfilled"

Ezekiel 40King James Version (KJV)
40 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the Lord was upon me, and brought me thither.
2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.
3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.
4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.

It borders on insanity to even try to pretend that this has even been fulfilled. The temple described does not even resemble any temple that has ever been built. And the rules of the worship in it are distinctly different fro those in the law of Moses.
 
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It borders on insanity to even try to pretend that this has even been fulfilled. The temple described does not even resemble any temple that has ever been built. And the rules of the worship in it are distinctly different fro those in the law of Moses.
Ezekiel:

Well Israel, God instructed me to tell you guys about a temple I had a vision of, our captivity in Babylon will end in 45 years, we will return to Jerusalem and build a temple under Zerubbabel?

I forgot to tell you guy's that the temple in the vision is 2500+ plus years in the future?

Writer even you gotta smile at that one :)
 
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