Is the rapture?

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You don't think the resurrection is on this planet (earth)? "He will rule the nations with an iron scepter"
Randy I Don't Believe The 1000 Years In Revelation 20:1-6 Represents A Literal Kingdom On This Earth.
The Scenario In Rev 20:1-6 Is In The Spiritual Realm.
I Believe The World Ends At the Second Advent, Immediately After The Future Tribulation.

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Hi Truth7t7,

Now that came out of left field. And definitely NOT. I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Son of Man, the second person of the Godhead, who came to earth to reveal the Father, to destroy the works of the devil and gave Himself up for a sacrifice for our sins.

We could fill pages on our precious Lord, couldn`t we,

regards, Marilyn.
I Asked Because You Had Mention A Third Heaven, They Teach In Schemes Of Different Heavens, And Planets As Eternal Places To Go And Live?

Sorry, Just Asked The Question.

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When Paul first preached Christ to the Israelites, he used the Old Testament scriptures to prove that Jesus was the Messiah.

He is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53.

He is the one who would bring in the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which would replace the covenant they had broken.
After Jeremiah revealed the New Covenant promise made by God, the Israelites should have been looking for the New Covenant.


The timeline found in Daniel chapter 9 reveals the exact time that the New Covenant Messiah would appear.


The following man found the promise of the New Covenant in his Hebrew scriptures and accepted Christ as his Messiah.

I Agree, And The Early Church Fathers Did The Same, Check Dialogue With Trypho The Jew, "Justin Martyr"
He Argued The Old Testament In Proving To Trypho Jesus Was The Christ Messiah.

Good Read!

Justin Martyr 100-165AD

Dialogue With Trypho The Jew

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Randy I Don't Believe The 1000 Years In Revelation 20:1-6 Represents A Literal Kingdom On This Earth.
The Scenario In Rev 20:1-6 Is In The Spiritual Realm.
I Believe The World Ends At the Second Advent, Immediately After The Future Tribulation.
Second Advent, Resurrection, Final Judgment, Eternal Kingdom, On The Last day.

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Randy I Don't Believe The 1000 Years In Revelation 20:1-6 Represents A Literal Kingdom On This Earth.
The Scenario In Rev 20:1-6 Is In The Spiritual Realm.
I Believe The World Ends At the Second Advent, Immediately After The Future Tribulation.

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At the sounding of the last trump (7th) the kingdom of this world shall become the kingdom Of God and of His Christ.
The resurrection of the saints and there are christians shown in the 1st resurrection starts the 1000 year period. Sine the resurrection was clearly understood and taught that Jesus would send out His angels to gather His elect from the ends of the heavens (the resurrection of us all) and that it is on the last day. That it is a "bodily" resurrection not spiritual. That there will be saints alive on earth on that day and they to would be caught up to the Lord and clothed with immortality then those who are not raised on that day must be those who suffer.
 
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Is the rapture the same as the last day? Or does it happen on the last day?
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In 2009 i was community harrassed. It started me hearing voices. One day they became intelligent saying my full name and to obey their commands. One told me i could shift myself through dimension and told me how. I didnt believe it so did what it said to see. I saw the ground below move away like it was stretching. Then i started hearing loud bangs noone else heard. From there i experienced a mental paranormal shift. Saw a creature holding a bag once at night. Not human. Then i hear that tons of people reported shifting via the mandela effects. Was that a rapture?
 
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You don't think the resurrection is on this planet (earth)? "He will rule the nations with an iron scepter"

Hi Randy777,

I was wondering if I`d get a bite.:wave: So thanks for the reply. Now do you see that you need to be ruled over by an `iron sceptre?` or is it that you see you are doing the ruling with that iron sceptre on earth?

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At the sounding of the last trump (7th) the kingdom of this world shall become the kingdom Of God and of His Christ.
The resurrection of the saints and there are christians shown in the 1st resurrection starts the 1000 year period. Sine the resurrection was clearly understood and taught that Jesus would send out His angels to gather His elect from the ends of the heavens (the resurrection of us all) and that it is on the last day. That it is a "bodily" resurrection not spiritual. That there will be saints alive on earth on that day and they to would be caught up to the Lord and clothed with immortality then those who are not raised on that day must be those who suffer.
Randy I Believe The General Resurrection Of All Will Take Place At the Second Advent, Immediately After The Tribulation. There Aren't Multiple Resurrections Seen In The Scripture, Just One Future Resurrection On The Last Day.
Jesus Christ Will Return In Firey Judgment, Dissolving The Existing Heavens And Earth, Malachi 3:2, Luke 17:29-30, 2 Thessolonians 1:7-8, 2 Peter 3:10KJV

At The Time Of This Worlds Literal Destruction, The New Heaven And Earth Are Revealed. Revelation 21:1-5

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I got one for you
In 2009 i was community harrassed. It started me hearing voices. One day they became intelligent saying my full name and to obey their commands. One told me i could shift myself through dimension and told me how. I didnt believe it so did what it said to see. I saw the ground below move away like it was stretching. Then i started hearing loud bangs noone else heard. From there i experienced a mental paranormal shift. Saw a creature holding a bag once at night. Not human. Then i hear that tons of people reported shifting via the mandela effects. Was that a rapture?
Sounds Like You Were In Adolescence In The 60's To Me :)

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Hi Randy777,

I was wondering if I`d get a bite.:wave: So thanks for the reply. Now do you see that you need to be ruled over by an `iron sceptre?` or is it that you see you are doing the ruling with that iron sceptre on earth?

Marilyn.
I’m not ruling over anybody.
 
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Randy I Believe The General Resurrection Of All Will Take Place At the Second Advent, Immediately After The Tribulation. There Aren't Multiple Resurrections Seen In The Scripture, Just One Future Resurrection On The Last Day.
Jesus Christ Will Return In Firey Judgment, Dissolving The Existing Heavens And Earth, Malachi 3:2, Luke 17:29-30, 2 Thessolonians 1:7-8, 2 Peter 3:10KJV

At The Time Of This Worlds Literal Destruction, The New Heaven And Earth Are Revealed. Revelation 21:1-5

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I am premill but don’t hold to apremil rapture. My premil stance is based off the language in rev. Daniel 12 would seem to indicated the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteousness is at the same time.
However while the false prophet and the beast are thrown into the lake of fire at the 2nd coming Satan is bound for a 1000 years. And the 2nd resurrection is 1000 years after the resurrection of the righteous. As I stated those who aren’t raised on the last day at the resurrection must be those who suffer.
 
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It is so obvious that modern rabbis refuse to cover the text of Isaiah chapter 53.

And so the passage has become known as...

Forbidden Chapter in the Tanakh

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They do deal with it they interpret the suffering servant as Israel and Jacob not a individual. I of course believe Jesus who overcame the world as a servant and whom was identified in acts as the one spoken of in Isaiah 53. In other words it speaks of an indivual not a people.
 
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I am premill but don’t hold to apremil rapture. My premil stance is based off the language in rev. Daniel 12 would seem to indicated the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteousness is at the same time.
However while the false prophet and the beast are thrown into the lake of fire at the 2nd coming Satan is bound for a 1000 years. And the 2nd resurrection is 1000 years after the resurrection of the righteous. As I stated those who aren’t raised on the last day at the resurrection must be those who suffer.
Randy The Description Of The Nations/Kings Being Gathered Below Revelation Chapters 16,19,20 Are All The Same Event Taught In Parallel, "Immediately After The Future Tribulation" Matthew 24:29-31, Jesus Christ Returns In The Resurrection Of All Daniel 12:1-2, John 5:28-29, In The Final Judgment.

Randy The Lake Of Fire Is Revealed At The "Final Judgment" Where All Humans That Have Lived are Judged, The "Beast" & "False Prophet" Are Humans, This Is The "Second Death" As Hell And Death Are Delivered Up, And Cast Into The Lake Of Fire.

Randy The Thousand Years Seen In Revelation 20:1-6 Is Not Literal, One Day Is A Thousand In The Lords Spiritual 2 Peter 3:8, The Complete Scenario Is Spiritual, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God And Christ, 100% Spiritual Realm In Revelation 20:1-6, "No Earthly Time".

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:7-10KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Once Again There Is One Future Resurrection Of All That Have Lived, This Will Take Place On "The Last Day", At The Future Second Advent, Immediately After The Tribulation, "The End" :)

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

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Where do you stand on the mandela effect?
I think its the most relevant thing out there showing us the mysteries of creation.
I Believe God Created The Heavens And Earth, By The Power Of His Word, No Mandela Effect Needed, Carnal Man Can Not Explain The Creation.

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I Believe God Created The Heavens And Earth, By The Power Of His word, No Mandela Effect Needed Man Can Not Explain The Creation.

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the brain can know itself, let you live in it and invent ways through you to understand itself. I believe we can but not fully.
 
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It is so obvious that modern rabbis refuse to cover the text of Isaiah chapter 53.

And so the passage has become known as...

Forbidden Chapter in the Tanakh

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Their reaction is not what I find as typical in the states. I hope for their sake no one comes along and explains away the truth to them.
 
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