President Trump and the value of the USA dollar.

DennisTate · Nov 1, 2017

Perhaps I lack faith....... or maybe my understanding of how genuine prophecies work is flawed........... but although I take the Mark Taylor 2011 prophecy for President Donald J. Trump very, very seriously.........
I am still worried that too many of us in the church don't understand a little better about how the Bride of Messiah, the church can RISE UP at this time in such a way that political leaders come to the church of Christ for answers to problems.... that they cannot solve themselves.

An online friend of mine made me aware that there are 4.3 TRILLION USA Petro-dollars out there floating around........... and there are some intelligent schemers who are willing to go to great lengths to attempt to devalue the USA Dollar.

If you are regularly praying for President TRump and his team.... please keep it up.......

God’s Man: Firefighter shares 2011 vision of President Trump Read

Mark Taylor:

Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than Israel). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.

The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that l have started! For the enemy has stolen from America for decades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say Israel, Israel, what about Israel? For Israel will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with Israel, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between Israel and America will be stronger than ever, and Israel will flourish like never before.

The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man’s word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.

The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waste their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God.

DennisTate · Nov 1, 2017

Here is the video in which Pastor Shane Warren recounts a dream about a hurricane of money that many would link to the plan to devalue the USA dollar in order to replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

The seventeen minute mark in this video... and the twenty four minute mark have statements that I would like to draw your attention to.

Gregory Thompson · Nov 1, 2017

If the dollar keeps decreasing in value, then things will become unbearable for the working class and homeless, and this is one of the usual reasons for God's judgment.

Radagast · Nov 1, 2017

Michael Collum said:
If the dollar keeps decreasing in value, then things will become unbearable for the working class and homeless

If the dollar decreases in value, imports will become more expensive, but manufacturing in the US will become more economically viable, thus creating jobs. Whether manufacturing in the US actually increases will depend on other factors, however.

christianforumsuser · Nov 1, 2017

Decrease relative to what

And don't say everything...unless you mean it. But then wouldn't you have to check, in some context
People gives reports of readings they heard and pass on
Of course I can shut up and leave people to carry on as it's going

Gregory Thompson · Nov 1, 2017

Radagast said:
If the dollar decreases in value, imports will become more expensive, but manufacturing in the US will become more economically viable, thus creating jobs. Whether manufacturing in the US actually increases will depend on other factors, however.

Not so much about the relative value of the dollar announced on the stock exchange, I was referring to the buying power of the dollar for regular people related to inflation.

christianforumsuser · Nov 1, 2017

Michael Collum said:
Not so much about the relative value of the dollar announced on the stock exchange, I was referring to the buying power of the dollar for regular people related to inflation.

I still don't have much grasp/understanding on economics...how people pay for things and are paid for other things...how valuation is. Some jobs/services and products command higher dollar value
People are inflated...what could be expected but an inflated economy and lots of nick nacks and time spent in meetings making computers to make computers to make computers
Why? Nobody knows...it's just...fun. And why is it fun? Nobody will answer that, because that's not fun, inflating the economy and wasting time is.
Unfortunately nobody wants to hear that such obviously leads to problems which are not fun. What's next? Other war. How does war affect economy? What should I know...I don't have a PhD...just a Bible

Radagast · Nov 1, 2017

Michael Collum said:
Not so much about the relative value of the dollar announced on the stock exchange, I was referring to the buying power of the dollar for regular people related to inflation.

When people talk about "devaluing the dollar," they mean compared to other currencies. This affects only imports and exports.

Inflation is a different matter. But what the US probably needs most right now (speaking purely in terms of economics) is jobs.

christianforumsuser · Nov 1, 2017

Hoping to possibly work in the industry even on large scale
I don't know computers, laws, medicine, farming... Internal economies are said to be better off exporting more than they import I think...
It's more blessed to give than receive...why all the greedy marketing and manipulation to consumers. People try to climb ahead as individuals while ruining an entire company or society in the process. If anything it's a miracle things still seem standing maybe...even though I'd bet it's filled with termites
Whether termites are good or bad...
But the end goal isn't fixing the world's economy...the gospel is important...the heart and spirit. There's a reason people are having trouble

DennisTate · Nov 2, 2017

Michael Collum said:
If the dollar keeps decreasing in value, then things will become unbearable for the working class and homeless, and this is one of the usual reasons for God's judgment.

Yes that is true.....
and at this time my own theory on how the church could rise up and address problems that political leaders have no idea how to solve, (as stated at the 24 minute mark in the Pastor Shane Warren interview on Sid Roth), is through our aligning our own VALUATION of human and animal lives...........
along with the valuation on human life in the sight of the Ancient of Days the Father!

Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????

I am thinking that one of volunteerism by Christians.......
(a time based currency)... .could play a huge role in positively transforming the economy of America first.... and then the whole world.

North American churches should each have their own currency!

DennisTate · Nov 2, 2017

Michael Collum said:
Not so much about the relative value of the dollar announced on the stock exchange, I was referring to the buying power of the dollar for regular people related to inflation.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm Ph. D. warned us about exactly this possible course of events.

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.

Asking them how it would be possible to change the course of many people, I observed that it was difficult, if not impossible, to change anything on Earth. I expressed the opinion that it was a hopeless task to try.

My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That's the only way to affect a major change.

DennisTate · Nov 2, 2017

Radagast said:
When people talk about "devaluing the dollar," they mean compared to other currencies. This affects only imports and exports.

Inflation is a different matter. But what the US probably needs most right now (speaking purely in terms of economics) is jobs.

Exactly.......
and I am hoping that one hour of volunteerism by Christians can become a new standard........
that is used to cause a boom in the USA economy..... and is linked to the USA Dollar........and that basic principle is expanded to other nations where the gospel can freely be preached and applied.

In a sense..... I believe that the utopian future shown to Rev Howard Storm during his near death experience.... can be financed......... founded upon the metaphorical GOLD of one hour of volunteerism by Christians...... .who have came to place much greater value on their own lives..... the lives of others..... the lives of animals and pets...... and on all life that God has created!

near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

Animals lived with people, in harmony." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death)

DennisTate · Nov 2, 2017

christianforumsuser said:
Decrease relative to what

And don't say everything...unless you mean it. But then wouldn't you have to check, in some context
People gives reports of readings they heard and pass on
Of course I can shut up and leave people to carry on as it's going

Exactly....... we have to compare valuation with something.......
a boom in the USA economy could be fuelled by an increase in the value that we place on LAND, especially land in rural areas, that has increased due to our increase in the value we place on own lives, on the lives of our families and friends, and on LAND that can be used to preserve and improve our lives!

Are land prices in countryside about to rise and rise?

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.
Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.
Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).

Isaiah 7:21

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that a man shall nourish a young cow, and two sheep;
And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk thatthey shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land."

christianforumsuser · Nov 2, 2017

Carnally minded people haven't been so nice but I hope I can be responsible and mature and forgive if people would ever repent and not be so arrogant.
Mankind does filth and evil and works hard and calls it humble
Or does what they consider in their mind nice and right and clean and lawful
But they excuse and justify their foolishness and violent tendencies
I don't trust them or such a system. They won't invest unless it feeds their wicked ego...whether they smile and laugh or soothsay....it's gotten this way for a reason and not been according to God's Word in right faith

christianforumsuser · Nov 2, 2017

In other words if this world is all there is and it's heaven and God's Word says so then fine
But leaven has played a role so far, and priorities aren't straight. People like their high positions and say how many years they've been in it. Like the rich young man who had too much to follow Jesus
I'm not gonna persuade someone how they'll get rich off doing the right thing
That defeats the point.
People would rather hear "you're awesome and perfect, keep doing what you do and you're good and do good...hey...but by the way don't do that one tiny thing"
They make friends with police and neighbors and bribe judges...their role models and idols are worldly. Regardless what people call it
If there's nothing wrong with being rich, but wrong with being greedy, but people like sin.
They don't even see what's wrong with disobedience or adultery or murder. Why? Because...well why worry right? YOLO
But when someone does it to them they say "what the hell man"
If you want a healthy economy...fine....

DennisTate · Nov 2, 2017

christianforumsuser said:
Carnally minded people haven't been so nice but I hope I can be responsible and mature and forgive if people would ever repent and not be so arrogant.
Mankind does filth and evil and works hard and calls it humble
Or does what they consider in their mind nice and right and clean and lawful
But they excuse and justify their foolishness and violent tendencies
I don't trust them or such a system. They won't invest unless it feeds their wicked ego...whether they smile and laugh or soothsay....it's gotten this way for a reason and not been according to God's Word in right faith

True... but I am convinced that an off the scale massive shift is about to occur in our thinking that will transform essentially every aspect of our economy, culture and even politics.

The Great Tsunami by Rick Joyner | MorningStar Prophetic Bulletins 2011

We will see events like hundreds of thousands of people gathering spontaneously for prayer and worship, becoming the biggest news stories of the day. News teams will be following apostolic teams and evangelists like they do politicians and business leaders now. Much more is happening now than most are aware of, or that is making the news, but when the Lord "suddenly comes into His temple," it will be the news, and the whole world will be aware of it.

There will be individual newscasts from secular networks that will cause more to come to Christ than Christian networks have in their entire existence. This is not to negate what has been accomplished by Christian networks but rather to stress the impact that this revival will have. We will go through a period when the news of the great things God is doing will crowd out just about all other news around the world.

In post #1 here I quote a prophecy from a man in Uganda whose prediction I first read around 2011. The writing of Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred sure reminds me of the "Commander in Chief" prediction by Mr. Mark Taylor.

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

christianforumsuser · Nov 2, 2017

Of course having a healthy economy and praising God is good. Spiritually would be wonderful.
People recognize their need for God...if they recognized themselves as desperate sinners as their nature they might not keep trying to apply cherrypicked sweet-sounding Scripture according to their carnal mind and religious practice in worldly law and culture
Not to rather be rude either, I'm saying it's not so much about being rude or nice...and different cultures have bias against another being so nice they neglect sailor language as if so superior. If someone acts better, it's a blessing, but boasting in the flesh or spirit might make someone feel bad.
White nations might trample the historical culture of brown people...whether trying to act politically correct or blatantly showing disdain and disgust in lack of understanding...people love their own body and mind...maybe even their friends and family as it benefits them until there's lack of trust with grudge

People get so caught up in "what you do" they leave behind intentions of God's Word in humbleness for worldly conquest or circling in place. And as much as someone says "you have sin in your heart, how can you say you have the Holy Spirit" they say..but look I'm doing good deeds or being filthy
If people remain in their own deaf thoughts and war or imitation carnal peace, you might see the economy better for a momet but only in a lie that doesn't hold. Someone can shift things to deceive or prove by your measurement as long as you look...it's like a magic trick where they say "look, it's there" with sleight of hand when you look at the other spot they say "and look at that too" but they only moved it
And friendly people get you to smile and make compromises, saying "come on...if you want...X...you should give me...." But in peace or war it's a losing game...it's a wasteful money pit with no oversight

Without God they build in vain

DennisTate · Nov 5, 2017

christianforumsuser said:
Of course having a healthy economy and praising God is good. Spiritually would be wonderful.
People recognize their need for God...if they recognized themselves as desperate sinners as their nature they might not keep trying to apply cherrypicked sweet-sounding Scripture according to their carnal mind and religious practice in worldly law and culture
Not to rather be rude either, I'm saying it's not so much about being rude or nice...and different cultures have bias against another being so nice they neglect sailor language as if so superior. If someone acts better, it's a blessing, but boasting in the flesh or spirit might make someone feel bad.
White nations might trample the historical culture of brown people...whether trying to act politically correct or blatantly showing disdain and disgust in lack of understanding...people love their own body and mind...maybe even their friends and family as it benefits them until there's lack of trust with grudge

People get so caught up in "what you do" they leave behind intentions of God's Word in humbleness for worldly conquest or circling in place. And as much as someone says "you have sin in your heart, how can you say you have the Holy Spirit" they say..but look I'm doing good deeds or being filthy
If people remain in their own deaf thoughts and war or imitation carnal peace, you might see the economy better for a momet but only in a lie that doesn't hold. Someone can shift things to deceive or prove by your measurement as long as you look...it's like a magic trick where they say "look, it's there" with sleight of hand when you look at the other spot they say "and look at that too" but they only moved it
And friendly people get you to smile and make compromises, saying "come on...if you want...X...you should give me...." But in peace or war it's a losing game...it's a wasteful money pit with no oversight

Without God they build in vain

True... without the guidance and inspiration and blessing of God we build in vain....
but there are some interesting predictions out there that could turn to be relevant to those 4.3 Trillion USA Petro-Dollars that my online friend wrote to me about six months or more ago:

I see reformation coming that's going to include the economy (Bill Johnson)

"The very IDEA of associating HARD WORK, DEDICATION TO ONE'S PEOPLE AND WORKING A DEAL WITH FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS WHO GIVEN THE RIGHT DEAL AND RIGHT DIRECTIONAL FLOW OF HARD COLD AMERICAN CASH after all there the U.S. Treasury Satellite Currency location Detection Systems show about $4.3 TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS out there in the world floating around as FREE FLOATING CURRENCY when the U.S. Treasury ITSELF is LYING saying that there is only a bit over $2 Trillion out there free floating but NO!!! Those of us in the LOOP are well aware the exact total is closer to $4.3 Trillion." .......(Anonymous online friend of mind)

Yarddog · Nov 5, 2017

I put no value in these so called prophesies from God. Trump is the closest this to the Anti-Christ that has been in the White House. He is a man who worships himself and gives no glory to our Father in heaven.

christianforumsuser · Nov 5, 2017

Yarddog said:
I put no value in these so called prophesies from God. Trump is the closest this to the Anti-Christ that has been in the White House. He is a man who worships himself and gives no glory to our Father in heaven.

Would you rather have the wife of the man who said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
I hope you aren't too gullible to liars who make a nice showing
If that's all it takes to be called holy and righteous or not...by outer appearance in this dark deceptive world (oh, but it's so shiny and clean!?)
I don't mean this to be offensive. I'm warning you

President Trump and the value of the USA dollar.

Do you believe an attempt will be made to devalue the USA dollar?

Yes... George Soros has been planning that for years.

No..... the USA dollar is seventy percent of the world's reserve currency.

I am not sure... but I will pray about this and do some research.

yes....

no.....

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