What Ideas do you have that might be considered "heretical" by some in your beliefs...?

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I see a lot of twisting of people's words on here, and other sites. That is thought to be the spirit of Leviathan. It is quite prevalent in fake news also, as well as theologically.

Psalms 56:
1 Be merciful to me, O God, for man would swallow me up;
Fighting all day he oppresses me.
2 My enemies would hound me all day,
For there are many who fight against me, O Most High.

3 Whenever I am afraid,
I will trust in You.
4 In God (I will praise His word),
In God I have put my trust;
I will not fear.
What can flesh do to me?

5 All day they twist my words;
All their thoughts are against me for evil.
6 They gather together,
They hide, they mark my steps,
When they lie in wait for my life.
7 Shall they escape by iniquity?
In anger cast down the peoples, O God!

8 You number my wanderings;
Put my tears into Your bottle;
Are they not in Your book?
9 When I cry out to You,
Then my enemies will turn back;
This I know, because God is for me.
10 In God (I will praise His word),
In the Lord (I will praise His word),
11 In God I have put my trust;
I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?

12 Vows made to You are binding upon me, O God;
I will render praises to You,
13 For You have delivered my soul from death.
Have You not kept my feet from falling,
That I may walk before God
In the light of the living?
 
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By train I guess about an hour and a half. Why? You're not going to suggest we meet, with a bible tucked under your arm are you, ready to evangalise

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The one where I'm sticking out my tongue at you.
I'm only kidding, you should know me by now. Seriously, think about staying for a few days at that Christian community I told you about. They have some lovely country villages close by, just like you want to visit
 
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That Catholicism has torn the way we are to worship the Messiah to shreds since after the death of the biblical apostles. Honestly, that it is a large part of why we worship on sunday, and why we observe pagan holidays today, and why so many deny the diety of Jesus (priests and popes).
I would be one to agree that believing most of these things about Catholics is heretical

I highly recommend reading the Catholic Catechism. That way you can see first hand what Catholics believe from what is kind of like a rule book or manual for Catholic beliefs. For example in passage #668 it says "To be sure, it is Christ who is seen, the visible image of the invisible God" and things like this. I think it's better to get the true information directly from the source instead of propaganda from people with a particular agenda.
 
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I would be one to agree that believing most of these things about Catholics is heretical

I highly recommend reading the Catholic Catechism. That way you can see first hand what Catholics believe from what is kind of like a rule book or manual for Catholic beliefs. For example in passage #668 it says "To be sure, it is Christ who is seen, the visible image of the invisible God" and things like this. I think it's better to get the true information directly from the source instead of propaganda from people with a particular agenda.
I'll agree with that statement from the catechism, my fellowship group and I have come to the same conclusion. We believe that God is essentially outside time and space, and cannot come to earth without destroying it. But, Jesus, referenced all throughout the bible, is as my cousin put it "his finger that dips in creation", it's the visible of an invisible God so as your quote says. I believe the spirit, is that which resides in and on each of us moving us to fulfill His will.
 
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Now my probably heretical view is Universal Salvation. I really have a hard time believing a loving God who knows all things would create someone with the foreknowledge that he will be sending them to hell.

Another one that is related to it is that if there is a hell, it is not for eternity. Again, even the worst most heinous murderer and rapist to me does not deserve a literal eternity burning and suffering. I think maybe a million years should be more than enough for the worst person that ever lived.
 
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I'll agree with that statement from the catechism, my fellowship group and I have come to the same conclusion. We believe that God is essentially outside time and space, and cannot come to earth without destroying it. But, Jesus, referenced all throughout the bible, is as my cousin put it "his finger that dips in creation", it's the visible of an invisible God so as your quote says. I believe the spirit, is that which resides in and on each of us moving us to fulfill His will.
I don't think we could comprehend the magnitude of "The Father"
 
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Now my probably heretical view is Universal Salvation. I really have a hard time believing a loving God who knows all things would create someone with the foreknowledge that he will be sending them to hell.

Another one that is related to it is that if there is a hell, it is not for eternity. Again, even the worst most heinous murderer and rapist to me does not deserve a literal eternity burning and suffering. I think maybe a million years should be more than enough for the worst person that ever lived.
I'd agree with the second part. It's not eternity. It says in a few different places that it's not. That hell will only essentially burn them up, and then they'll just be no more. No longer remembered, no longer existing, just forever gone, apart from God.
 
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I don't think we could comprehend the magnitude of "The Father"
Oh no, I'm definitely not suggesting that I have Him figured out, it's just cool to ponder on Him and think about how He is, and just to try to understand Him.
 
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Oh no, I'm definitely not suggesting that I have Him figured out, it's just cool to ponder on Him and think about how He is, and just to try to understand Him.
The Father's heart, his passion, is expressed through Christ/YHWH God, God, the Son...

This might be considered heretical by some...

God Bless!
 
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People that make up stuff and its not scripture at all. This mostly applies to pastors, bishops, apostles and religious people who make up there own doctrines. If you ask me about other religions outside of Christianity. I would say to you; doctrines of demons. Jesus is the only way. its written.
 
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Now my probably heretical view is Universal Salvation. I really have a hard time believing a loving God who knows all things would create someone with the foreknowledge that he will be sending them to hell.

Another one that is related to it is that if there is a hell, it is not for eternity. Again, even the worst most heinous murderer and rapist to me does not deserve a literal eternity burning and suffering. I think maybe a million years should be more than enough for the worst person that ever lived.
I don't think it works that way, when you go into the lake of fire is over forever, your nothing more then a puff of smoke. There is such a thing as perdition, the evil will go there, I don't make the rules but that is the disturbing truth.
 
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Firstly, this should in no way reflect a state of hatred as I do not hate, I really try to give the gospel. But here is my "insights" ,as it were, that might reflect a rather skewed look. The current nation of Israel is a false state propagated by the world, this is the spiritual Babylon. The modern Judaism rejects the Christ, and scriptures say the synagogue of Satan. Clear where they go. Catholicism in all its forms is a perversion of the original church. Roman Catholicism is the wormwood that has poisoned the third of the waters. Look it up. Catholics make up nearly 1/3 of the world's population. It has been overladen with the sins of mankind for 2000 years, while people who seek after God and commune with him and do his will are the "true church". To label oneself as Catholic or Jew is the lie. That is the false witness. Spiritually it could also be determined that racism is a big poison that is propagated as a lie. The Bible clearly distinguishes families and their skin color. But to say that one's ancestry is from a curse is to be considered racist and/or a heretic. It's just fact. I still love you. Still the same saving grace from Jesus. There are 7 distinct spiritual states to the individual believer. These same spiritual conditions apply to distinct time periods, and also to distinct schools of thought concerning denominations. This is done by the Holy Spirit, as Jesus came to divide the righteous from the wicked. There is a darkness overtaken the world, that many are blind to, because they fear to upset the status quo. They claim to love people as Christians yet refuse to correct people for following what they know to be wrong. The USA itself hosts an idol of a Roman Goddess Libertas, which in form is derived from the early idols of the Bible. The idolatry we need to avoid is ourselves. Most people place themselves above God and lean on their own understanding. There is an idol that Americans claim which is not stone that is the nation itself. Many who pledge allegiance to an image, the flag, and who would die to protect the bigotry and hypocrisy that America has come to stand for. Who do you truly know that would go to war without a gun? As if a gun could really protect you. My Lord Jesus Christ goes before me. His word is my sword. I could move a mountain if I had faith the size of a mustard seed. Guns are for killing. Not protecting. A good movie to watch about faith in war was Hacksaw Ridge. 7th Day Adventist saved 75 people while refusing to pick up a gun. Back to rant, there are more people that are further from God than they realize. Even the nation of Britain and the wicked beast she rides, with the inner and middle temple, in the heart of the City of London Corporation. With the statues of Gogmagog. The Russian Empire with its fall, the R.O.C. (the false rock) (Russian orthodox church) is prophecy literally being fulfilled. No one wants to see what they literally see. Chernobyl is Ukrainian for Wormwood. Nuclear power has poisoned the planet. Prophecy fulfilled all kinds of different ways. In every jot and tittle. Everyone knows what true faith is. They know where it leads. It leads to somewhere they are afraid to go. No one wants to be the missionary that goes straight into the heart of Islam to preach the gospel. But they would want to go there and kill them. Faith is doing what you know is right, even when you know it could mean your death. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego did this. The Lord saved them from the fire (even walked around with them). Christ did this. The Father raised him from the dead. So how does not wanting to hurt someone's feelings outweigh the fact that someone that you supposedly love needs to see and hear the truth? You don't have time to feed the homeless guy on the exit ramp because you don't agree with why he is there? When the guy has never heard one nice word all his life. I would rather serve and love God with all my heart, mind, and body. Love everyone as he has loved me in faith and works. And stand alone and be rejected by everyone. For there is nothing else I am put here for than to do the Lord's will. I am not here to win a popularity contest and talk baseball while the tv is on blaring how we blew up half a country in the name of self-righteousness, then complain about how someone God appointed is running the country. Be humble. Be of good courage. Speak what is right. Because no one else is. Basically truth is this, there are two religions. Not many, just two. Not muhammedism, not christ, not judaism, not jack, and gold, and the like. Just two. The one of Satan, and the other of the true faith of Jesus Christ. God is an all consuming fire. Be ye holy as he is holy. Where will you be 5 minutes after death?
 
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Oh no, I'm definitely not suggesting that I have Him figured out, it's just cool to ponder on Him and think about how He is, and just to try to understand Him.
Yeah, the vastness of all creation blows my mind making me feel like the tip of a lit cigarette just burnt up and blown away in a second and to think that there is a creator that for lack of a better way to describe is "bigger" than all that exists is kind of terrifying to me. Like on a physical level, we must be like the size of mere atoms to a being so vast but yet he sees us and knows all everyone's thoughts, who we are, were, and will be now and through the generations simultaneously while keeping the entire universe and all things contained within it in balance, planets, moons and comets, rotating and spinning around solar systems, galaxies, and possibly multiverses in unison.
 
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I don't think it works that way, when you go into the lake of fire is over forever, your nothing more then a puff of smoke. There is such a thing as perdition, the evil will go there, I don't make the rules but that is the disturbing truth.
I know what scripture says, it's just that my heart tells me the heresy that Jesus Christ's sacrifice was (is_ sufficient for all mankind's sin. There are a coupe verses I am probably taking out of context that point to some kind of U.S. but there are far more scriptures that say there will be hell to pay.
 
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Now my probably heretical view is Universal Salvation. I really have a hard time believing a loving God who knows all things would create someone with the foreknowledge that he will be sending them to hell.

Another one that is related to it is that if there is a hell, it is not for eternity. Again, even the worst most heinous murderer and rapist to me does not deserve a literal eternity burning and suffering. I think maybe a million years should be more than enough for the worst person that ever lived.

If you believe in the first paragraph as you said, then how can you believe there will be any people in hell. If the second paragraph is true, as I also believe, then you're dead wrong in the first paragraph. You are right, He died for all, but you have free choice to accept that gift and also the Holy Spirit that makes you dead to sin. Those that throw it back in God's face...well they wouldn't be happy praising God in heaven forever, so they might as well just no longer exist. I feel sorry for them. They won't know what they'll be missing.
 
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