mindlight said in post #1:
Chen said:
"In China we can criticise Darwin but not the government. In America, you can criticise your government, but not Darwin."
He should note that many people in America criticize Darwin.
Also, what would someone under the thumb of the Chinese tyranny replace Darwin with? A Communist Party Creator? A new Xi God?
Isn't the Chinese Communist Party still supposed to hold to Marx's Dialectical
Materialism?
If the materialistic mechanism of evolution is not responsible for the origin of new species, then what materialistic source is responsible? Aliens? Even a red dragon alien, like how the symbol of China is a red dragon? (Compare Satan himself being a red dragon in Revelation 12:3, Revelation 12:9.)
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Or, just as there are millions of Christians in China, could the Chinese Communist Party someday reject Marx's materialism for the Bible's Creationism?
And could China, and the rest of the world, eventually realize that even an old earth and evolution can be true without contradicting Creationism, because evolution per se (random mutation and survival of the fittest) can coexist with miraculous creation, just as an automated process created by a human (for example, a computer program which makes random, colorful pictures which can be seen as art) can coexist with that same human sometimes performing a task himself directly (painting some pictures by hand). That is, evolution per se can be a process created by God to allow new, adaptive species to arise naturally over time, and this process can coexist with God Himself sometimes creating new species miraculously. So with regard to Creationism and evolution, it doesn't have to be either/or, but can be both/and.
Some people ask why would God wait millions of years for something to evolve from a one-celled organism, when He could just create it instantly? He could do that for the same reason He has humans start out as a one-celled organism: a zygote in its mother's womb. God then has humans only gradually develop through natural means into an embryo, and then a fetus, a baby, a toddler, an adolescent and an adult. And God has other animals develop gradually in a similar way. And He has plants start out as seeds. So it must give God pleasure to see organisms develop naturally over time, just as it must give Him pleasure to also sometimes create plants and animals miraculously, instantaneously, already fully-formed, like He did in Genesis 1:11-13 and Genesis 1:20-27, during 3 of the 7, literal 24-hour days of Genesis 1:3 to 2:4.
Creationism can include what could be called a Double-Gap Theory, meaning there could have been 2 gaps of time in Genesis chapters 1-2, the 1st gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, and the 2nd gap between Genesis 2:4 and Genesis 2:5. Genesis 1:1 could have occurred some 4.5 billion years ago, when God first created the planet earth and its atmosphere (the 1st heaven, in which the birds fly: Genesis 1:20b). Between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 some 4.5 billion years could have occurred in which God allowed His own created process of evolution to serve as a mechanism by which new species arose naturally on the earth. During those same 4.5 billion years, God could have also gone outside of evolution and created new species miraculously whenever He wanted to (compare what evolutionists call "punctuated equilibria").
Genesis 1:2 could refer to the condition of the earth only about 12,000 years ago (at the end of the Paleolithic period), after some cataclysm like a comet-strike had killed off all life on the planet (both evolved and miraculously created), and had submerged all land areas in water (comets contain huge amounts of water), and had ruined the atmosphere. The impact of the comet could have also knocked the earth out of its orbit around its original star, so the earth was sent hurtling into the darkness of interstellar space as a "rogue planet" (astronomers estimate rogue planets in our galaxy could outnumber the stars in our galaxy). Genesis 1:3 to 2:4 could then refer to God, over a period of 6, literal 24-hour days (some 12,000 years ago, at the start of the Neolithic period), miraculously restoring to the earth light, a good atmosphere, dry land and life, including a race of male and female homo sapiens sapiens,
after God had miraculously restored land plants (Genesis 1:11-13) and land animals (Genesis 1:24-25) to the earth.
Then, only about 6,000 years ago, God miraculously created on the earth an individual male homo sapiens sapiens named Adam in an uninhabited desert land (Genesis 2:5-7; there the original Hebrew word translated as "earth" can refer to a certain "land": e.g. Genesis 2:11).
After that, God created the plants of the local Garden of Eden in that desert land (Genesis 2:8-9), and God placed Adam in that garden (Genesis 2:15). Then God miraculously created the animals of the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:19). Then He created an individual female homo sapiens sapiens (Genesis 2:22) whom Adam named Eve (Genesis 3:20).
Because Adam was created only about 6,000 years ago based on Biblical chronology, yet there are homo sapiens sapiens fossils said to be as old as about 200,000 years, God could have first created homo sapiens sapiens, or it could have evolved by God's created process of evolution, as far back as about 200,000 years. Also, all the different hominid forms the fossils of which long predate or are as old as the earliest fossils of homo sapiens sapiens, and which preceding or coexisting hominid forms we don't consider to have been fully human like us, such as homo sapiens neanderthalensis, could have all been created by God, or could have evolved by God's created process of evolution, over millions of years prior to the 1st appearance of homo sapiens sapiens on the earth.
And this doesn't get into the possibly trillion other inhabited planets in the universe on which homo sapiens sapiens, or similar or far more advanced life-forms, could have been created by God, or could have evolved by God's created process of evolution, billions of years prior to the 1st appearance of homo sapiens sapiens on the earth. For the universe could be about 14 billion years old, and it contains about 100 billion galaxies, each containing about 100 billion stars. So even if only one star out of every 10 billion has an inhabited planet, there would still be a trillion inhabited planets. And on most of these, God could have begun His miraculous work, and the work of His created process of evolution, billions of years prior to His beginning of His miraculous work, and the work of His created process of evolution, on the earth.