What holidays do you think should be forbidden for a Christian to participate in?

Trumpeter2 said:

This is a word that was given to a brother in Christ by a prophet of God back in 2004.

This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, is celebrating Halloween OK?

[The Lord answered] In regards to the day in which your land celebrates “the Day of the Dead”, those who hear not, speak not, think not nor pray, for all their thoughts have perished with them, I say this: To honor this day is to honor nothing, and is contemptible. And to honor death and darkness is to cast your lot with satan; it is to partake in the works of demons... I am The Light and The Life! Honor Me!
So again, I say to you, do not do it! In no way make for yourself images of the dead. Do not buy or sell such things, nor decorate your house; carve no image, nor adorn yourself or your children with these symbols. Rather celebrate autumn and its splendor, and give thanks; offer up praises to The Lord your God, for all creation declares My name.
Beloved, I created autumn so all may partake of My brushstrokes, and know I am God, and give Me glory. For My splendor is written in the leaves of the trees. It is carried upon the wind, as it moves through the tall grasses. It soars high above on the wings of eagles, yet remains as near as the fragile flower at your feet. Behold, everywhere you look, the hand of God is clearly seen.


Therefore, be separate from the world and its evil ways;
Stand apart from the corrupt traditions of men,
And delight no more in those things I hate...

For as it is written:
The highway of the upright is to depart from evil;
And he who watches his step preserves his life...

Says The Lord.

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You seem to think that Halloween and the Day of the Dead are the same. They are not, so your reply does not address the Day of the Dead.

Jason0047 said:

Halloween is a holiday that is celebrated by Wiccans. Should we celebrate alongside them

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Sun-day (worship of the sun) has its origin in paganism. Why do most christians worship the SUN on Sunday.

RaymondG said:

Is there a day of the year that is given to God

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Yes there is but it is a weekly day

8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Have a Holy Sabbath day today and worship the Lord

God Bless you all

Jason0047 said:

It is silly to say that one is a sheep or goat by one's nature alone. A person is a sheep or goat based on what they do in the end. But sheep can be lost because Jesus left many sheep to find just one lost sheep. Then there are these babies (i.e. passages).

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My experience here is most Christians are pretty well up on what the Bible says about Repentance/Forgiveness, so when I post, I do make that assumption. Jesus does find "some" of his sheep after they're lost.

On "nature", pretty sure we all have a sin nature, and we make the choice to go against that nature or not. If we do not, or if we let that nature take us over after we have suppressed it, then we become a Goat again.

But again, yes, it's where we end up that matters, and that was precisely why Jesus was making the warning...he wants us to end up in a good place.

I'm not sure what your point was supposed to be with the verses.

Jason0047 said:

Just because Christians worship on Sunday, does not mean they worship the sun. In fact, Scripture says they gathered on Sunday to break bread and to hear Paul preach.

“And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.” (Acts of the Apostles 20:7).

Granted, the Saturday Sabbath is still the weekly Sabbath, but we are not bound to keep it as a part of obeying God (unlike the Israelites who were under the Old Written Law at one time).

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Check out this bible study brother.
Is Saturday the Sabbath? Should we still keep it according to Commandment #4?

SeventyOne said:

My comments are based straight out of Matthew 23, where Jesus asks how could they ever possible not be sentenced to hell for what they do.

As for the sheep and goats, that separation is made prior to any of their deeds being examined (and isn't actually relevant to my point).

If you want to defend legalism that all who adhere to it will end up in hell for believing and preaching a false gospel, that's on you. I wouldn't recommend it.

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As expected, you didn't answer the question.

I even tried something different with the question this time around...often when you tell someone they cannot/will not do something, they will do it...interesting.

Will you please at least answer the following 3 questions? And of course feel free to comment on any other comments I made.


1)No idea what you are talking about on the "separation being made prior" please explain? 2) How do you know that? 3) And may I ask who taught you that?

It appears to be most recent of phrases designed to confuse/do away with what that scripture is very clear about? The usual way of trying to confuse it, because it does cut to the chase/flies in the face of no works necessary was, the Goats "were never saved to begin with". something that could never be proven either, and I think why it's not used so much here lately.

Not sure exactly where you stand, and since we have pulled off topic anyway, even though this does, in a way, fit... To all OSASr's that teach against works being a necessity/we can sin as we wish, or those that even scoff at people who are obedient to what God/Christ says we must do, that condemn others of actually being bad because being obedient has been twisted into legalism or trying to earn salvation, it's really quite simple and you need to stop listening to Easy Way teachers....

Salvation cannot be earned, however disobedience can and will cost us our place in heaven.

Kenny'sID said:

As expected, you didn't answer the question.

I even tried something different with the question this time around...often when you tell someone they cannot/will not do something, they will do it...interesting.

Will you please at least answer the following 3 questions? And of course feel free to comment on any other comments I made.

1)No idea what you are talking about on the "separation being made prior" please explain? 2) How do you know that? 3) And may I ask who taught you that?

It appears to be most recent of phrases designed to confuse/do away with what that scripture is very clear about? The usual way of trying to confuse it, because it does cut to the chase/flies in the face of no works necessary was, the Goats "were never saved to begin with". something that could never be proven either, and I think why it's not used so much here lately.

Not sure exactly where you stand, and since we have pulled off topic anyway, even though this does, in a way, fit... To all OSASr's that teach against works being a necessity/we can sin as we wish, or those that even scoff at people who are obedient to what God/Christ says we must do, that condemn others of actually being bad because being obedient has been twisted into legalism or trying to earn salvation, it's really quite simple and you need to stop listening to Easy Way teachers....

Salvation cannot be earned, however disobedience can and will cost us out place in heaven.

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That is an interesting idea. Disobedience can and will cost us out place in heaven.

If that is true, then heaven will be extremely empty as there is none righteous, not even one (Psalms 14 and 53 and Romans 3).

Jason0047 said:

The point with the verses was to show that sheeps are not always in a saved state as they live out their faith. Grevious sin can separate a believer from God and the Lord does not over ride our freewill choice to choose God in this life after we are regenerated. Some believe God creates some to be sheep and others to be goats.

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Pretty sure we agree, and there may or may not be evidence to support some were basically created to fail, but since "Whosoever belieth in him" are saved, that at least tends to put a damper on that.

bbbbbbb said:

If that is true, then heaven will be extremely empty as there is none righteous, not even one (Psalms 14 and 53 and Romans 3).

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That's another common tactic designed to confuse. Where did I claim 100% "righteousness" is required? See the twist? And that's how the cancer spreads, people want to believe an easy way, they buy the twists that mean nothing, things are set into motion and spread..

As a matter of fact, it's completely logical it is not required for salvation, or Christ would not have been crucified. The same reason sin offerings were available in the OT, and because atoning was an option, it made us aware of our sin, but nothing anywhere so much as indicates we can go on sinning, the very reason God wanted us to be aware of it.

Act like we have faith/believe, instead of just saying it. Make an effort, act like we care, and if we mess up, ask forgiveness, move on, try not to repeat our mistakes, and stay away from, and don't teach/spread the cancer that says we need do nothing but make the "claim" we are saved.

Jason0047 said:

As for whosoever believes in Him shall be saved: This would include believing everything Jesus taught and commanded of us. It is clearly understood in the Bible that faith is dead without works. We are saved by God’s grace and also by obedience.

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And it's just that simple.

I recall 50/60 yrs ago as a child, be "good and go to heaven", and though there is a bit more to it than that, that is still were the main effort is. Takes no effort at all to claim we believe, but striving to show it is what makes us more mature in our faith. Simple, and the way it always was.

At least until a "new" way came along, a way that built huge congregations, filled the plates, made everyone happy that wanted to do what they wanted to do, and all you had to do is show up and pay a little money in order to help reinforce that fantasy. The perfect religion that did away with the "narrow way" and made it all a "broad way" (see scripture below.

A clue to some, when anything does away with scripture, scripture just like what follows...something is bad wrong with it. It's a lot like checking our math in school, when things don't add up, be very careful or we could fail.

Matthew 7:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

ThisIsMe123 said:

Yeah, I was wondering that if you do enough charitable, volunteer work, etc. How much of that can you do to offset the amount of sin in your life? My mom donates blood on a routine basis, but that's pretty much it. I guess you could say...that is enough?

I do volunteer work at a Christian thrift shop and donate clothes there, is that enough?

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Those are good questions, but at least you are on the right track. I give a little money monthly because I can't get out, and though I'd be considered pretty poor by most standards, that money doesn't really hurt me a bit, at least I always seem to have enough, and then some. I should add for those that think we are bragging and how we shouldn't go public with what we give, this isn't that, we are Christians sharing what we do as a teaching tool. Besides, what little I can do is hardly worth bragging about lol. I mention that only because we got called out on that once, so wanted to be clear.


Doing things also bring rewards in heaven, at least that how I understand it... it's pretty much a promise, so are we happy with what rewards we want to have or do we won't more? Not you but some might say that's the wrong attitude, we should do it because we have faith, not expecting a thing, but God pushes the reward thing, always has...Heaven for example. Do it oit of the goodness of heart if we feel it, if we don't...just do it.

But back to what is enough to get us into heaven? I'd say do all we can within reason, and we should never stop and say enough but at the same time we don't have to give until we are give out. Consistently as we are able?

ThisIsMe123 said:

Looks like we kind of got off topic in regards to "worshipping fantasy"

This is a classic example that my mind bend you. There was this viral video of a woman that just came back from a TWO YEAR mission trip. She's never seen the recent 2 star wars movies, and they show a reaction video when she sees the connection between A New Hope and Rogue One. She's in tears.

Unfortunately, she tarnished her soul for 'worshipping a fantasy" according to Jason. She gave up 2 years of being on the grid, and comes back and ruins it all by getting emotional over a fictional story. 2 years down the drain, yes? No? Of course 2 years of mission work probably makes up for a couple of hours of binge watching Star Wars, right? lol

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I think, and this is JMO, Jason might not say that, and maybe after what she was doing, she deserves her Rogue One. Ours are all just opinions of something that mean little in the scheme of things. The movie amounts to just a play, and though I never really liked the SW shows that much, they are pretty clean if I recall, just not very Godly, IOW. The FARCE is with us, not God.

That said, in reality not sure how God would react to that as far as judgment, not sure how to myself, but I will say one thing, I must have been missing something from those shows, as I have NEVER been into TV enough to act like that. Maybe just her personality?

I was relieved when she came down and laughed that it had all been filmed, and shows she could separate herself from it/was aware of just how she was acting.

Amazing.

Jason0047 said:

“And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.” (Acts of the Apostles 20:7).

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Lets look at this Jason.
"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread" does not say that the breaking of the bread was any thing other than a meal.

So this would have been an evening meal after the sun had set on Sabbath

Paul kept the Sabbath.

Remember that the evening and the morning were the first day. That is how they kept track of the days the way the Lord told us at creation.

So on the first day (sundown on the Sabbath) Paul preached till midnight

No where does this indicate that there is a change by Paul in the Sabbath not being the Seventh-day. In fact it reaffirms it. Because if the first day was a new Sabbath then Paul would not have departed on the first day in the morning.

Jason0047 said:

Just because Christians worship on Sunday, does not mean they worship the sun.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sunrise service is a worship service on Easter practiced by some Protestant churches, replacing the traditional, ancient Easter Vigil preserved by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

The service takes place outdoors, sometimes in a park, and the attendees are seated on outdoor chairs or benches.

Ezekiel 8:15-17King James Version (KJV)
15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

16 And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

Jason0047 said:

Just because Christians worship on Sunday, does not mean they worship the sun. In fact, Scripture says they gathered on Sunday to break bread and to hear Paul preach.

“And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.” (Acts of the Apostles 20:7).

Granted, the Saturday Sabbath is still the weekly Sabbath, but we are not bound to keep it as a part of obeying God (unlike the Israelites who were under the Old Written Law at one time).

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Indeed, you are not wrong for worshiping on Sunday. No one can ever be wrong when worshiping The Lord and gathering together for fellowship in the name of YahuShua (Jesus). To worship The Lord any and all days is righteousness, but the seventh day is the day God has commanded us to remember and keep holy. So then on Saturday, do no work, but rest in The Lord, and pray and be merry. Then, when Sunday comes, worship and fellowship, if you so choose, for this is also pleasing to the Lord.
I hear some of you saying, ‘Yes, but we are no longer under the Law.’ You are partially right. We are under grace, freed from the Law’s punishment by YahuShua’ death and resurrection. Has then The Law also passed away? As the apostle, Paul, says, ‘God forbid.’ Rather, only the laws found in ordinances were nailed to the cross of The Messiah, as Paul has taught us.
The Law of the Ten Commandments is now established in us and fulfilled by YahuShua, who is the only One who has never transgressed, who also said, “It is easier for Heaven and earth to pass away than one letter of the Law to fail” (Matthew 5:18); and again, saying, “Whoever breaks one of these least commandments, and shall teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom; but whoever teaches others to keep them, shall be called great in the Kingdom” (Matthew 5:19)... He, also being the same One who taught us the Law anew, and how to obey it. Why teach us of that which has passed away? So then, if YahuShua remembered the Sabbath and the apostles remembered the Sabbath, how is it then we have forgotten it?!
The church who changed the Sabbath was wrong, but the churches who worship on Sunday are not wrong. For even the apostles wrote that they did gather together on the first day of the week, which was the day after the day they rested and kept holy. (They were Jewish Followers of The Way. They honored and kept the Law and the Holy Days, but with a much greater understanding in the knowledge that YahuShua is the fulfillment of all things and their one and only best example.) Rather, we, as individuals in Messiah, should keep the Sabbath as it is written. In obedience to God, in Messiah, is our love made perfect.