You have left out and replaced words and forgot the verses that proceed and come after the ones you have quoted from.
There are many translations and the best way is to examine them all. I am combining your last three posts to save space and answer them: Acts of the Apostles 3:23;
And it shall be, every soul that may not hear that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from out of the people. ; a cutting off, or as Aben Ezra explains it here:,
"death by the hand of heaven", that is, immediate destruction from God, and so Miamonides syas, Yesod Hattora. c. 9. sect 4.
Even your own comments don't support endless annihilation.
Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people. (Acts 3:23)
21whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.
22Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you.
23And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’
The Greek word for "cut off" above is exolethreuó (Strongs # 1842). In Exodus 31:14 it occurs with the meaning of death. Death is not endless annihilation.
Spiros Zhodiates says the "word and its syn. never mean extinction, but a change of one's state involving retribution or punishment" (The Complete Word Study Dictionary", p.605).
There is no endless annihilation spoken of in Acts 3:23.
You quoted Romans 12:20 in response to my Psalms 140:10; Let the burning coals fall upon them, let them be cast into the fire, into deep pits, that they rise not again.
However, you forgot to quote Romans 12:19 which says, ...for it hath been written, VENGEANCE IS MINE.
Vengeance is vengeance, not endless annihilation. Here is vengeance:
Rev.18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
That says repay double, not infinitey or endlessly.
Repayment (vengeance) is harmonious with salvation and with universal reconciliation:
"Because I have sinned against him, I will bear the LORD’s wrath, until he pleads my case and upholds my cause. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness." (Micah 7:9)
"And what about judgment? "In the first judgment recorded in Scripture, mercy goes hand in hand. If Adam is to die, mercy follows; the serpent's head is to be bruised (Gen 3:15). So, too, even the vengeance of eternal fire on Sodom ends in her restoration (Jude 7, Ezek 16:53-55). We thus understand the striking juxtaposition of mercy and judgment in God's revelation of himself to Moses (Exod 34:6-7)...[f]ew more beautiful illustrations of the view I am urging can be found than that afforded by the story of Achan, stoned by a terrible judgment..in the Valley of Achor (Josh 7:24-25); for if we turn to Hosea 2:15 we shall find this promise, 'I will give her the Valley of Achor for a door of hope' -- words pregnant with suggestion."
"The Prophets are full of similar teaching. Note Isaiah connecting the words of comfort and pardon to Israel with her having received 'double for all her sins' (Isa 40:1-2). So it is said, 'Zion shall be redeemed with judgment' (Isa 1:27)...this connection of judgment and salvation runs through the Bible....So in Ezekiel 24:13-14, it is said of Israel, 'You shall not be purged of your filthiness any more, till I have satisfied my fury upon you.'"
Christ Triumphant, Part Three: Universalism Asserted on the Authority of Scripture
Matthew 25:46 and these shall go away into everlasting judgement, but the righteous into life eternal, [the angels will be ordered to take and cast them into everlasting burnings.]
And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian." (CLV)
And these shall go away into age-abiding correction, But the righteous into age-abiding life. (Ro)
"And these shall go forth to the aionian 1 cutting-off; but the RIGHTEOUS to aionian Life." (ED)
"And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during." (YLT)
The "eternal" (eonian) fire that burned Sodom went out long ago. It was not eternal:
Jude 1:7 As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner to these committing ultra-prostitution, and coming away after other flesh, are lying before us, a specimen, experiencing the justice of fire eonian."
"...Likewise, the Presbyterian Bible scholar, M. R. Vincent, in his extensive note on aiõn/aiõnios states: “Neither the noun nor the adjective, in themselves, carry the sense of endless or everlasting.” "
Philo was contemporary with Christ & we have this translation of his words which use the same words Christ used at Mt.25:46:
"It is better absolutely never to make any promise at all than not to assist another willingly, for no blame attaches to the one, but great dislike on the part of those who are less powerful, and intense hatred and long enduring punishment [kolasis aiónios] from those who are more powerful, is the result of the other line of conduct."
Philo: Appendix 2: Fragments
If Christ meant "endless" punishment at Mt.25:46, why use the ambiguous aionios? Why not instead use the word aperantos ("endless"; 1 Timothy 1:4)? Or why not use the words "no end" as in Lk1:33b: "And of His kingdom there will be no end"? The answer seems obvious.
"In the late 2nd century/early 3rd century, Clement of Alexandria clearly distinguished between kólasis and timoria: “For there are partial corrections [padeiai] which are called
chastisements [kólasis], which many of us who have been in transgression incur by falling away from the Lord’s people. But as children are chastised by their teacher, or their father,
so are we by Providence. But God does not punish [timoria], for punishment [timoria] is retaliation for evil. He chastises, however, for good to those who are chastised collectively
and individually” (Strom. 7.16)."
https://afkimel.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/from-here-to-eternity-how-long-is-forever/
"...in a passage in Origen in which he speaks of “life after aionios life” (160). As a native speaker of Greek he does not see a contradiction in such phrasing; that is because aionios life does not mean “unending, eternal life,” but rather “life of the next age.” Likewise the Bible uses the word kolasis to describe the punishment of the age to come. Aristotle distinguished kolasis from timoria, the latter referring to punishment inflicted “in the interest of him who inflicts it, that he may obtain satisfaction.” On the other hand, kolasis refers to correction, it “is inflicted in the interest of the sufferer” (quoted at 32). Thus Plato can affirm that it is good to be punished (to undergo kolasis), because in this way a person is made better (ibid.). This distinction survived even past the time of the writing of the New Testament, since Clement of Alexandria affirms that God does not timoreitai, punish for retribution, but he does kolazei, correct sinners (127)."
Ilaria Ramelli, The Christian Doctrine of Apokatastasis: A Critical Assessment from the New Testament to Eriugena | Nemes | Journal of Analytic Theology
Earlier in the book of Matthew the same author wrote:
Mt.1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mt.2:6b ...my people Israel.
John 5:29 says And shall come forth , they that have done good , unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the the resurrection of judgement.
Judgement is judgement, not endless annihilation. Judgement is a good thing:
"My soul yearns for you in the night; in the morning my spirit longs for you. When your judgments come upon the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness." (Isa.26:9)
Revelation 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
That says cast into the LOF, not cast into endless annihilation.
This includes everyone in the universe, including the dead and demons:
Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
John speaks of "every creature" & to emphasize this again he repeats "and all that are in them":
Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
This worship (v.13) uses the same worshipful words as the redeemed of vs 9-10 use in v.12:
12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
All this being in the context of salvation - "the Lamb that was slain" (v.12 & 13).
Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation be desolate and let none dwell in their tents.
What makes you - imagine - any endless annihilation there?
Psalms 69:28 says Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.
What makes you - imagine - any endless annihilation there? Those who are blotted out of life, or killed, God makes alive again:
"See now that I myself am he! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand. (Deut.33:29)
Job 21:30 The wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
A day of wrath is a day of wrath, not endless annihilation:
"For the wicked is reserved for the day of calamity; They will be led forth at the day of fury." (NASB)
One can suffer the Lord's wrath & be saved:
"Because I have sinned against him, I will bear the LORD’s wrath, until he pleads my case and upholds my cause. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness." (Micah 7:9)
21 Yet shall he be brought to the grave and remain in the tomb.
all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out (Jn.5:28-29)
New American Standard Bible
"While he is carried to the grave, Men will keep watch over his tomb. (Job 21:31)
"The last enemy that shall be abolished is death" (vs. 26).
Death is abolished (v.26). God becomes All "in" all (1 Cor.15:28). Even in all who were in Adam (v.22).
"Just as surely as the abolition of slavery entails freedom for those formerly enslaved, the abolition of death entails life for those formerly dead."
Revelation 6:16-17 says hide us...from the wrath of the Lamb for the great day of his wrath has come , and who shall be able to stand?
"Because I have sinned against him, I will bear the LORD’s wrath, until he pleads my case and upholds my cause. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness." (Micah 7:9)
Job 36:6 says He preserveth NOT the life of the wicked; but giveth their right to the afflicted [Hebrew margin]
He preserved not the life of wicked Pharoah, but set His afflicted people (Israel) free. Yet Pharoah is not annihilated forever, but will be raised (Jn.5:28-29) & saved (1 Cor.15:22-28).
"Ab. Ezra interprets it, The years of the wicked shall be shortened." e.g. Pharoah, Sodom, the world in Noah's day, etc
"Verse 6. - He preserveth not the life of the wicked. There is no special providence over the life of the wicked, as Job had supposed, or pretended to suppose (Job 21:7; comp. Job 12:6). On the contrary, God "overturneth" wicked men "in the night, so that they are destroyed; he striketh them as wicked men in the open sight of others" (Job 34:25, 26)."
Job 36:18 says Because there is wrath beware lest He take thee away with His stroke:THEN A GREAT RANSOM CANNOT DELIVER THEE.
New American Standard Bible
"Beware that wrath does not entice you to scoffing; And do not let the greatness of the ransom turn you aside.
New International Version
Be careful that no one entices you by riches; do not let a large bribe turn you aside.
Consider then, Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubbel [straw] the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame; their shall not
be a coal to warm at nor fire to sit before it.
They are - already - like - stubble & have been - already - burned, yet live:
New American Standard Bible
"Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by Nor a fire to sit before!
English Standard Version
Behold, they are like stubble; the fire consumes them; they cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame. No coal for warming oneself is this, no fire to sit before!
Douay-Rheims Bible
Behold they are as stubble, fire hath burnt them, they shall not deliver them- selves from the power of the dames: there are no coals wherewith they may be warmed, nor fire, that they may sit thereat.
Young's Literal Translation
Lo, they have been as stubble! Fire hath burned them, They deliver not themselves from the power of the flame, There is not a coal to warm them, a light to sit before it.
"...they shall be no more able to stand before the fire of divine wrath, or before the judgments of God, by the hands of the Medes and Persians, than stubble can stand before a consuming fire".
Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in His hand, and He will thourghly cleanse His floor, and gather His wheat into the repository; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Wheat is useful to the farmer for food. Chaff is useless, unless it is used for fuel. That occurs by burning it, as in Mt.3:12. Of course burned chaff is not annihilated but changed into something else. This verse does not address the final destiny of people's souls. It doesn't even mention the word "soul", let alone any soul is ever annihilated & God Himself is powerless to resurrect that soul. Neither does it state the wheat & chaff represent different people rather than 2 parts of one person. In fact the previous verse said they would be baptized in the "Holy Spirit and fire" (v.11). Not one or the other. That is salvation. And it was spoken to the Pharisees & Sadduccees whom John called a "generation of vipers" (v.7).
Mark 9:49 For everyone will be salted with fire.
Psalms 1:5 Therefore the wicked will NOT stand in the day of the judgement, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous. Psalms 1:6 For Jehovah knows the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked shall perish.
All sinners are wicked until they are saved. When all sinners are saved, then there will be no more wicked. All will be "in the assembly of the righteous".
The - way - of the wicked shall perish, i.e. his sinful ways, his wickedness. Then he will be saved.
Psalm 72
11Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.
12For he shall deliver the needy when he crieth; the poor also, and him that hath no helper.
13He shall spare the poor and needy, and shall save the souls of the needy.
14He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight.
Psalms 36:12 There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and in no way shall they be able to stand [Hebrew margin] [ABP] [DARBY] KJV]
New International Version
See how the evildoers lie fallen-- thrown down, not able to rise!
New American Standard Bible
There the doers of iniquity have fallen; They have been thrust down and cannot rise.
King James Bible
There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and shall not be able to rise.
Rise from what?
It doesn't say they "will not rise" but they are not able to rise. It doesn't say that that God is unable to make them rise.
Death is abolished (v.26). God becomes All "in" all (1 Cor.15:28). Even in all who were in Adam (v.22).
"Just as surely as the abolition of slavery entails freedom for those formerly enslaved, the abolition of death entails life for those formerly dead."
Psalms 37:38 but the transgressors shall be destroyed together, the future of the wicked shall be cut off.
Cut off, but not forever. Cut off when the dead saints are raised & they are left dead. Until their resurrection. Cut off when cast into the lake of fire, the second death, but not forever. Only till death is abolished & God becomes all in all (1 Cor.15:22-28, etc).
Or the verse merely refers to their "posterity" (compare the LXX & the Vulgate):
But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off. (Psa.37:38, NASB)
posterity: the descendants of a person.
"God offered Abraham a posterity like the stars of heaven"
“Posterity” could also be translated as “end” or even “future.” Even as “future,” their offspring could be intended (cf. Prov 24:20)".
Strongs Hebrew 8045, shamad, "destroyed"...e.g. as in death in this mortal life, as in Genesis 34:30:
Then Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, "You have brought trouble on me by making me obnoxious to the Canaanites and Perizzites, the people living in this land. We are few in number, and if they join forces against me and attack me, I and my household will be destroyed.[8045]" (Gen.34:30)
Ps 66:3,4 Enemies will submit to God.........................Can any stay rebellious in "hell?"
Ps 90:3 God turns man to destruction, then says return.....How can one return from "destruction?"
Ps 33:15 God fashions all hearts..........................."All" hearts, including men like "Hitler?"
Ps 86:9 All nations will worship Him......................."All" nations!
Ps 138:4 All kings will praise God..........................Are you catching on?
Ps 65:2-4 All flesh will come to God.........................That sounds wondrous.
Ps 72:18 God only does wondrous things......................I wish we would believe that.
Ps 22:27 All ends of the earth will turn to Him.............For what purpose?
Ps 22:27 All families will worship before Him...............Praise His name!
Ps 145:9 He is good to all..................................Including your worst enemies.
Ps 145:9 His mercies are over all his works.................Let's start believing that.
Ps 145:14 He raises all who fall.............................Who hasn't fallen in sin?
Ps 145:10 All His works will praise Him........................For "eternal torment?"
Ps 135:6 God does what pleases Him..........................If it pleases Him to save all that He might be in all, are you upset?
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