When the grid goes down: Lessons from Puerto Rico

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What's happening in Puerto Rico is a warning for what could happen here. This article is long on explaining the problem and short on solutions, but still worth reading. An excerpt:

Among natural threats to the electric grid, solar storms are perhaps the most serious. A solar storm causes the Earth's magnetic field to move and induce large direct currents in long conductors, such as power lines and communications cables. The 1859 Carrington Event was so powerful that some telegraph operators were electrocuted by voltages induced in the wires. Fortunately, in 1859, the power grid did not exist. A smaller March 1989 solar storm crashed the Quebec power grid and destroyed a large power transformer at the Salem nuclear generating station in New Jersey. If the 1989 solar storm had been as severe as the Carrington Event, much of the North American grid could have gone down for months or years.

Since a solar storm is associated with the mass ejection of charged particles from the Sun, it is possible to have a warning and possibly prevent damage to the grid by turning off the grid until the storm is over. Obviously, a deliberate blackout would be inconvenient, but not as inconvenient as a blackout lasting for years. But electric utilities are unlikely to proactively turn off the grid, because their insurance companies have policy exclusions for "intentional acts."

Deliberate physical attack and sabotage of the grid are also major threats. But perhaps the biggest danger would be an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) created by detonation of a nuclear device above the atmosphere. The North Koreans have already threatened an EMP attack.

A small nuclear weapon detonated 200 miles above Kansas would create no direct damage – only a bright flash in the sky. But gamma rays released from the explosion would interact with atoms in the upper atmosphere, knocking electrons loose. These electrons would move in a spiral path as they interact with the Earth's magnetic field. Strong electric and magnetic fields would strike the entire United States as a kind of electromagnetic shockwave. There would also be slower variations in the Earth's magnetic field, much like the effect of a solar storm.​
 

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What's happening in Puerto Rico is a warning for what could happen here. This article is long on explaining the problem and short on solutions, but still worth reading. An excerpt:

Among natural threats to the electric grid, solar storms are perhaps the most serious. A solar storm causes the Earth's magnetic field to move and induce large direct currents in long conductors, such as power lines and communications cables. The 1859 Carrington Event was so powerful that some telegraph operators were electrocuted by voltages induced in the wires. Fortunately, in 1859, the power grid did not exist. A smaller March 1989 solar storm crashed the Quebec power grid and destroyed a large power transformer at the Salem nuclear generating station in New Jersey. If the 1989 solar storm had been as severe as the Carrington Event, much of the North American grid could have gone down for months or years.

Since a solar storm is associated with the mass ejection of charged particles from the Sun, it is possible to have a warning and possibly prevent damage to the grid by turning off the grid until the storm is over. Obviously, a deliberate blackout would be inconvenient, but not as inconvenient as a blackout lasting for years. But electric utilities are unlikely to proactively turn off the grid, because their insurance companies have policy exclusions for "intentional acts."

Deliberate physical attack and sabotage of the grid are also major threats. But perhaps the biggest danger would be an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) created by detonation of a nuclear device above the atmosphere. The North Koreans have already threatened an EMP attack.

A small nuclear weapon detonated 200 miles above Kansas would create no direct damage – only a bright flash in the sky. But gamma rays released from the explosion would interact with atoms in the upper atmosphere, knocking electrons loose. These electrons would move in a spiral path as they interact with the Earth's magnetic field. Strong electric and magnetic fields would strike the entire United States as a kind of electromagnetic shockwave. There would also be slower variations in the Earth's magnetic field, much like the effect of a solar storm.​
Do you have a recommendation about how to prepare for this? Get a generator? Get extra batteries for your cell? Have solar power that you can use (but the batteries are huge and expensive)? I feel like this is something that is out of my control and worrying about it is a waste of energy. So... I hope this doesn't sound rude. I am just trying to understand any practical implications, since fixing the vulnerabilities in the power grid is not even on the same scale that my pay grade is on.
 
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At our level, there is no complete solution. It has to be done on a state and national level, and there has to be legal reform so the power companies are exempt if they pull the plug proactively to protect the grid. For to be sure, doing so would cost lives. So there's the aspect of becoming politically aware and involved.

Beyond that, there are partial solutions we can undertake that could help. Storing necessary food and goods is one. A generator and extra fuel could be a big help for shorter outages. Getting an alternative source of heat is another, etc. A lot of it is practical sense. The problem, AISI, is that we are so used to the grid that we don't even think of what life would be like without it.

I do agree that we shouldn't worry. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be taking what precautions we can.
 
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At our level, there is no complete solution. It has to be done on a state and national level, and there has to be legal reform so the power companies are exempt if they pull the plug proactively to protect the grid. For to be sure, doing so would cost lives. So there's the aspect of becoming politically aware and involved.

Beyond that, there are partial solutions we can undertake that could help. Storing necessary food and goods is one. A generator and extra fuel could be a big help for shorter outages. Getting an alternative source of heat is another, etc. A lot of it is practical sense. The problem, AISI, is that we are so used to the grid that we don't even think of what life would be like without it.

I do agree that we shouldn't worry. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be taking what precautions we can.
Makes sense. I would want to know what kind of fuel you were storing and in what quantities if you were my neighbor though.
 
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One thing I learned with Hurricane Andrew (1992 Homestead Air Force Base area) is NOT TO RELY UPON THE GOVERNMENT!

They say 3 days water/food... don't believe it!

I spent 3 weeks in my front yard in a screen house with rain every day after the hurricane...no electric, no water because so many homes had left their hoses on the bibs and the storm tore them off and the water flowed from THOUSANDS of houses and no pressure....

I taught advanced outdoor living so I was ok.... really... after 3 weeks I was able to "move into" my (now open) garage area... finally the red cross came around with EMPTY trucks, no real food, no coffee and NO PET FOOD (remember this!) The National Guard would drive through from time to time but THEY HAD NO AMMO! (remember this!) They picked up bodies no questions asked.

Looters abound with each disaster.
You cannot imagine the evil people think of and the ways they will rob you....

Even now after "hurricane" Maria in Southern Florida--- only the keys got hit, my home had only 49 mph GUSTS and only tree damage mainly in the area due to it having been seeded to rain for the month prior and roots pulled up. That's why the power outages, people who didn't trim trees and power lines not buried. I had power all but when they put another transformer on line, so maybe 1 1/2 hours out (but I was out of State for a month anyway.... monitors from phone tells me details.)

PR has it bad but we'll rebuild them better than any State in the Union! We have 100 thousand people in Florida still needing assistance, but except for the horrible nursing home that should have been closed 10 years ago, no deaths..... PR has it bad, but then, their government didn't use their monies judiciously.

Ok. Rant over. Pray for PR.... you can't imagine the horror even now...

As for fuel etc... I gave my generator to my brother out of state as I put one on my van...it's connected via fuel port to the van tank....

When storing gasoline be sure to keep "extender" on hand.... I used to keep 15 gallons on hand at start of hurricane season (June 1 to Nov 30) but have to add the freshener, extender or it becomes stale and won't burn well. Auto and big box stores have it.
 
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Great post, jean. They ought to make a point of telling ppl to turn off their hose bibs, whether evacuating or not. One of those little things that can be easily overlooked if one is not thinking proactively, which is easy to do when you're stressed.
 
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Do you have a recommendation about how to prepare for this? Get a generator? Get extra batteries for your cell? Have solar power that you can use (but the batteries are huge and expensive)? I feel like this is something that is out of my control and worrying about it is a waste of energy. So... I hope this doesn't sound rude. I am just trying to understand any practical implications, since fixing the vulnerabilities in the power grid is not even on the same scale that my pay grade is on.
I have solar power for my house. The batteries are expensive but are getting cheaper. We have a butane generator back up should we need it. That only comes up if we have an extended period of cloud covered skies (over 5 days).
 
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Solar for houses in Florida won't work anymore as they must be tied to the grid

Yes, an interesting article
In Florida, you can't use your own solar panels in crisis

Not sure of the point. The most i have solar right now are the cheap yard ornaments. They actually work very well and are pretty and help with lighting outside. I was thinking of looking into more, like an outside light since my electrical one burned out.

I don't understand all the regulations regarding solar panels in Florida, but I do remember (about 2 years ago?) when it was changed that it is illegal for any Floridian to live off the grid.
 
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I saw this:

FACT CHECK: Is It Illegal in Florida to Power Your Home With Solar After a Storm Because of Lobbying?

Although the “big corporate government/axis of evil” narrative was too juicy for many conspiracy sites to pass up, Floridians are not, in fact, mandated by law to connect solar panels to the power grid. Utility providers are instead required to allow customers to connect their solar panels to the grid for “net metering,” meaning they can enjoy lower utility bills if their homes generate more power than they use, because excess power is sold back to the utility company. Florida statute actually makes it unlawful for any entity block residents from having solar panels.

Further, FPL doesn’t “mandate” that solar panels power down if the grid goes offline in a crisis. This is a safety precaution and industry-wide standard put in place to prevent line workers from being electrocuted while restoring power during an outage — and it is not unique to Florida.
 
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Right. IF you own land, you must be connected to and use water, sewage, electrical supplied by municipality/State.

IF you put solar panels on your roof to be "off the grid" in case of emergencies you are breaking the law. FPL now has it that if you put solar panels on your home to run it you have to have it tied into the grid, and must PAY FPL to take the excess power. (When they first allowed solar homes, they bought the power from you... outcomes to laws are never for what the consumer voted).

Not only do you HAVE to PAY for FPL to take (and sell) your excess power, but you are PREVENTED from using solar power WHEN the GRID IS DOWN!!!!

They MADE US go to virtual metering years ago...and really push to have you join the "savings" of letting them decide when they will power you totally DOWN... no power at all to the house.... but it's still an option. They can, of course, shut you off without coming out anyway now. AND the making you connect your solar is for "safety". HOW MANY things in this country (and in dictatorships as well) do they convince the population that something evil is good for their "safety"????


I live in Florida. My brother and I both worked at a steam turbine/nuclear plant (different decades).

Considering you'll never get your money back from solar (unless you live more than 30 years in the same house afterwards), it really stalemated using solar.

However, the small items, sure.... enough for a few days ...or in lights moreso :D
 
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Yes, an interesting article
In Florida, you can't use your own solar panels in crisis

Not sure of the point. The most i have solar right now are the cheap yard ornaments. They actually work very well and are pretty and help with lighting outside. I was thinking of looking into more, like an outside light since my electrical one burned out.

I don't understand all the regulations regarding solar panels in Florida, but I do remember (about 2 years ago?) when it was changed that it is illegal for any Floridian to live off the grid.

Fortunately I'm not on FPL. And there is nothing to keep
anyone from having a backup solar electric setup for use
like a generator. Just don't connect it to the grid. Get a few
power cords and just use it on the refrigeration and some
lights and maybe a window air conditioner depending how
many watts it puts out.
 
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I saw this:

FACT CHECK: Is It Illegal in Florida to Power Your Home With Solar After a Storm Because of Lobbying?

Although the “big corporate government/axis of evil” narrative was too juicy for many conspiracy sites to pass up, Floridians are not, in fact, mandated by law to connect solar panels to the power grid. Utility providers are instead required to allow customers to connect their solar panels to the grid for “net metering,” meaning they can enjoy lower utility bills if their homes generate more power than they use, because excess power is sold back to the utility company. Florida statute actually makes it unlawful for any entity block residents from having solar panels.

Further, FPL doesn’t “mandate” that solar panels power down if the grid goes offline in a crisis. This is a safety precaution and industry-wide standard put in place to prevent line workers from being electrocuted while restoring power during an outage — and it is not unique to Florida.

The article also states that people in Florida can use the Solar Panels during outtages (which doesn't surprise me), but that it can only be if done if:

"We asked Patrick Altier, owner of the Florida-based energy company Solar Trek, to explain further. Altier told us that Floridians who have solar panels on their homes can use energy from the sun during a grid failure — if they purchase additional equipment to prevent volts of electricity from traveling through power lines and harming unsuspecting neighbors or repair crews. " " However, if customers have installed a battery system, such as a Tesla Powerwall or an SMA Sunny Island, they can use their solar panels safely during a grid failure. No laws or mandates prohibit them from doing so."

I looked up the battery cost for one of these if you don't have the money for additional equipment - the Powerwall home battery for 7+ days with installation is over $6,500. :sigh:

And from same article, "That perhaps explains why the New Times story struck a nerve — it reports, for example, that “FPL is… allowed to disconnect your panels from the grid without warning you. The company can even put a padlock on it.” It also reports that utilities companies can “charge a $400 or $1,000 application fee for consumers who want to install systems more powerful than 10 kilowatts.” "


It's too risky/expensive and complicated to me. I definitely can't afford it.
 
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