MonstersvsMartyrs
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How about adoption? There are plenty of children already born who need protection.
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I am a Christian Antinatalist. I do not want to be married for several reasons but one is that I do not want to have children. I feel that the world is not a safe place and I do not want to bring children into the world.
I feel peace knowing my children will never hurt, because they will never be born.
I have experienced alot of pain in my life and I don't feel life is good.
Does that make it any less true, or at the very least, make you question your harsh comment towards the OP?
I was not going to elaborate, but since you continue to ask. Celibacy is a choice that is lead by the Spirit. The context of Paul's statement was to further the Gospel. Jesus also made that statement that some men are called to celibacy (in KJV the term "eunuch" is used). In both cases we are talking about a dedication to God. Verse 6 in 1 Cor. 7 makes it clear that Paul's statement is not a command of God.
You think that my statement that it makes Satan happy is harsh? The reasons given by the OP are not in the Spirit of Christ. Consider again what he says:
"I do not want to be married for several reasons but one is that I do not want to have children. I feel that the world is not a safe place and I do not want to bring children into the world. I think children are beautiful but because of what I have experienced in life it shows me that life is not a safe place and not compassionate. I feel peace knowing my children will never hurt, because they will never be born. I have experienced alot of pain in my life and I don't feel life is good."
These are all selfish reasons. If everyone made this choice, simply because there is pain in the world, then we would be extinct as a people. There is no mention of wanting to further the kingdom of God as Paul and Jesus allude to. His reasons are drawn from the globalist propaganda that is satanically inspired who wants to reduce the world's population down to the millions instead of the billions. These globalists own the media and have been actively undermining the nuclear family in portraying dads as unreliable morons and encouraging women to have careers instead of marriages. His self pitying reasons filled with fear does not come from God. There is no nobility in his statements, only unbelief in the power of God.
God wants babies born. He wants them born his way in committed marriages and families, but still wants all babies born even if they come about the wrong way. Not being willing to live life because there is also evil, sin and death is a loser's attitude. Life is good, because God is Life. Sin is bad, but it is impotent compared to our omnipotent God.
Everyone who makes such decisions based upon fear serves Satan and makes Satan happy.
What concerns me is that this seems to be the driving force behind your decision not to have children. The problem with this is that it shows a lack of trust and faith in Christ. The fact is that you are not in control of anything. You are not in control of your health, or of anyone else's.I think I just am aware how damaged the world is at this point and it scares me that a child of mine could suffer terribly even if I protect them. Something horrific could happen to them and I might not be able to heal them.
OK. That seems to fit.I have no desire for a spouse and I practice celibacy and have for a long time.
That is the test of the true gift of celibacy. It is just a yes/no question: Is it a bother or not?but what on earth is this,
That is the test of the true gift of celibacy. It is just a yes/no question: Is it a bother or not? It will not be a burden to those rare individuals who actually have the gift.
And it can be taken as a question for the person to answer to themselves only.But even if that was so, the issue you raised a question about is not something to be discussed publicly. Not even privately in most cases, let alone publicly.
Why not get married to someone of like mind and adopt kids that are already in this world and give them the safety and chance to reach their dreams? Chances they may not have otherwise.I am a Christian Antinatalist. I do not want to be married for several reasons but one is that I do not want to have children. I feel that the world is not a safe place and I do not want to bring children into the world. I think children are beautiful but because of what I have experienced in life it shows me that life is not a safe place and not compassionate. I feel peace knowing my children will never hurt, because they will never be born. I have experienced alot of pain in my life and I don't feel life is good. I long for heaven and I long for being safe and healed in God's heaven. Antinatlism is just the philosophy that it is better not to have children because life is unsafe. Has anyone decided not to have children for similar reasons? What are your opinions of Christian Antinatalism?
I have no desire to get married but adopting is an amazing blessing. I dont think I will be able to adopt though because I have disability and my family helps support me.Why not get married to someone of like mind and adopt kids that are already in this world and give them the safety and chance to reach their dreams? Chances they may not have otherwise.
From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. It doesn't take great discernment to see he is not led of the Spirit. If he was the Gospel probably would have been mentioned.Maybe Bluerose is lead by Holy Spirit to "feel that the world is not a safe place". You can't see what's going on inside so your conclusions are arbitrary. And by the way, not everybody in a Body of Christ is same part of the body with same functions and purpose.
@Bluerose31I am a Christian Antinatalist. I do not want to be married for several reasons but one is that I do not want to have children. I feel that the world is not a safe place and I do not want to bring children into the world. I think children are beautiful but because of what I have experienced in life it shows me that life is not a safe place and not compassionate. I feel peace knowing my children will never hurt, because they will never be born. I have experienced alot of pain in my life and I don't feel life is good. I long for heaven and I long for being safe and healed in God's heaven. Antinatlism is just the philosophy that it is better not to have children because life is unsafe. Has anyone decided not to have children for similar reasons? What are your opinions of Christian Antinatalism?
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Blue, some others sent me reminders of what you had gone through. I did not remember those things. What I said remains true, but I apologize to you for the manner in which I said those things. There are many Christians who are choosing not to have families because of globalist propaganda, which is not the will of God. The command of God is be fruitful and multiply, yet our young women are being convinced that they should have careers first. My wife and I are of that first generation that believed that lie. When we married, it was too late for her to bear children. I know many women my age (60's) who could not have children for the same reason so they either adopted, if they could, or remained childless with regret.
As I said before, evil in this world is impotent compared to the omnipotence of God. Evil is a feignt shadow compared to the bright light of God' goodness. You may choose to not have a family, but it would be a matter of God's mercy, not his leading. As I said to others the leading of the Lord is for the sake of the Gospel.
You asked for our opinions on Christian Antinatialism. It is not the will of God for the majority of people. If you are an exception, then it relates to the traumas you've gone through, not God's will. It is God's will that my wife and I have children, but it is His mercy that carried us through the reality of marrying too late.
I am a Christian Antinatalist. I do not want to be married for several reasons but one is that I do not want to have children. I feel that the world is not a safe place and I do not want to bring children into the world. I think children are beautiful but because of what I have experienced in life it shows me that life is not a safe place and not compassionate. I feel peace knowing my children will never hurt, because they will never be born. I have experienced alot of pain in my life and I don't feel life is good. I long for heaven and I long for being safe and healed in God's heaven. Antinatlism is just the philosophy that it is better not to have children because life is unsafe. Has anyone decided not to have children for similar reasons? What are your opinions of Christian Antinatalism?
The gifts and the callings of God are without repentance. The command to be fruitful has not been rescinded by God. What number fulfills his command? Billions? Trillions? You can not say that the number has been fulfilled. How can there be spiritual children if there are not physical children first? For someone who is proud of his biblical knowledge, you don't seem to be aware of the influence of globalist propaganda in your thinking.Well, the command to be fruitful and to multiply that was given to Adam and later again to Noah and his family was for what purpose? To fill the Earth. That command has been fulfilled already!
Anyways, if Paul had permission to write Scripture to give spiritual advice that it is better to remain single than to marry, then that is true. Believe or don't believe it. But his words are important and God breathed still. The Scriptures say it is better to marry than to burn. Oh, and where is the command to have children in the New Testament? I must have missed that one. Our command is to make disciples (spiritual children) not physical ones. Granted, it is not wrong for a Christian to have a family if they feel called to do that. But neither is wrong to choose not to have children, too.