Are you squeamish about the word "catholic"?
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You must be a mind reader lol....
I just responded to a member who posted that exact event over on my Revelation thread. Ironic huh?
Revelation leaves no doubt that Jesus is Yahweh, the great I AM?
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I don't remember the flames of fire coming from His mouth to end the fighting instantly. I thought Armagetan was a longer war. But now that I think about it you may be right m'bad
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No worries - did anyone say flames of fire coming from His mouth? (I don't think so) That may be elsewhere in Scripture, yes.
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((((((
He returns just in the nick of time to save Jerusalem from being overthrown,
and simply [opens His mouth](other meaning?), and instantly ALL of the armies arrayed against Him [surrounding Jerusalem](maybe all over the earth?)
burst into flames along with all of their weapons.
It takes months to clean up the bodies....)))))
How soon they forget...
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Read again..... no flames come out of His mouth. Only all the enemy and the weapons burst into flame... That may be a crucial difference in a lot of scenarios in life. (attention to detail; attention to Truth/ to what is written/ spoken/ without adding and without taking away anything)
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Considering that is an attribute of God I am not the one putting flames in His mouth. Maybe you should provide scripture.
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You said it/added it referring to my post.
This is just a mis-quote or mis-understanding of what was posted,see? .... not necessarily contrary to Scripture....
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I am coming of the view that Armegeddon and Gog-Magog are both one and the same event, with Gog-Magog the shorter version.
Did anyone notice that the word for synagoge has the word "gog" it.......
4864. sunagoge from (the reduplicated form of) 4863; an assemblage of persons; specially, a Jewish "synagogue" (the meeting or the place);......
4862. sun soon a primary preposition denoting union; with or together (but much closer than 3326 or 3844), i.e. by association, companionship, process, resemblance, possession, instrumentality, addition, etc.:--
1136. Gog gogue Gog, a symbolic name for some future Antichrist:--Gog.
4863. sunago soon-ag'-o from 4862 and 71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specially, to entertain (hospitably):--+ accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.
3098. Magog mag-ogue' of Hebrew origin (4031); Magog, a foreign nation, i.e. (figuratively) an Anti-christian party:--Magog.
Reve 2:9
“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not,
but are the syn-agogue<4864> of Satan” (Rev. 2:9).
Reve 16:16
And he together-assembles/leads/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Place, the being called to Hebrew Armageddwn
Reve 20:8
And he shall be coming out to deceive the Nations, the in the four corners of the land, the Gog and the Magog, [Ezekiel 7:1]
together-assembles/leads/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of which the Number as the Sand of the Sea.
Ezekiel 7:1
And a word of YHWH is becoming to me to say of "and thou, son of 'adam, thus He says my Lord YHWH to ground of Yisra'el
2 An end comes, the end on four corners of the land.
[Revelation 20:8]
Ezekiel 38:2
And a word of YHWH is becoming to me to say of 2 "son of adam, place thou! faces of thee to Gowg, land of the Magowg, prince/nasiy' of ro'sh, Meshek, and Tuwbal, and prophesy thou! on him",
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He did say he came to cast fire upon the land [which must be the land of Judea where the Temple and Sanctuary was?
Luke 12:49
Fire I came to be casting upon the Land and any I am willing if already it was kindled.
Revelation 8:5
And the Messenger who has the franckincensor crams-full it out of the Fire of the Altar.
And he casts it into the Land and became thunders and sounds and lightnings and quaking
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my issue with catholicism, is not the religion itself, but rather the practitioners who pray to the saints, and worship Mary as if she's God --- in my pure subjective opinion, there is too much idol worship in the catholic faith.
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If I am to be honest then I hope no one takes offense.
I do not hearing the word catholic in many situations. For example when I talk about 9/11, people will say "You christians are no better, you lead the crusades!". That drives me nuts. We "christians" did not do the crusades. A denomination of people who believe in cathlicisom lead the crusades. Not evangelicals, protestants, not baptists or whatever. Or when there was news about catholic priests who did bad things to boys, people would say "You christians are sick in the head!". Ugh, christian is a VERY simple word that really is not that simple to use.
Now I should point out I am not saying catholics are not christian or that catholics are bad. That would be ignorant to say such a thing. I am just saying non-christians need to understand all christians are not the same. We are all part of different denominations/groups. So if you are going to make a statement, then aim it at the right denomination you are talking about. Because saying christian or catholic puts us all in together. And again obviously we are all christian and we all believe in Jesus (usually). But we have varying views as christians.
And yes I do realize the word catholic many believe have a universal meaning, but I don't use it that way. I just use it as the word that refers to those who practice catholicism. Just as I am considered an evangelical (if I recall). Or as something I once heard say:
"Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion.
A Catholic is a Christian who follows the Catholic religion as transmitted through the succession of Popes. The Pope is the leader of the Catholic church."
So as stated I usually do not like when people use the word catholic as a general word when it comes to attacking christians. Its like telling if a french man went on a killing spree and someone was like "Ugh, I all Europeans are the same!". Throwing everything together as one is not good.
I do not hearing the word catholic in many situations. For example when I talk about 9/11, people will say "You christians are no better, you lead the crusades!". That drives me nuts. We "christians" did not do the crusades. A denomination of people who believe in cathlicisom lead the crusades. Not evangelicals, protestants, not baptists or whatever. Or when there was news about catholic priests who did bad things to boys, people would say "You christians are sick in the head!". Ugh, christian is a VERY simple word that really is not that simple to use.
Now I should point out I am not saying catholics are not christian or that catholics are bad. That would be ignorant to say such a thing. I am just saying non-christians need to understand all christians are not the same. We are all part of different denominations/groups. So if you are going to make a statement, then aim it at the right denomination you are talking about. Because saying christian or catholic puts us all in together. And again obviously we are all christian and we all believe in Jesus (usually). But we have varying views as christians.
And yes I do realize the word catholic many believe have a universal meaning, but I don't use it that way. I just use it as the word that refers to those who practice catholicism. Just as I am considered an evangelical (if I recall). Or as something I once heard say:
"Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion.
A Catholic is a Christian who follows the Catholic religion as transmitted through the succession of Popes. The Pope is the leader of the Catholic church."
So as stated I usually do not like when people use the word catholic as a general word when it comes to attacking christians. Its like telling if a french man went on a killing spree and someone was like "Ugh, I all Europeans are the same!". Throwing everything together as one is not good.
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