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Hi friends,

The following is a link to an esteemed cardiologist who resuscitated five atheists who had been clinicly dead. Who fully believe they had gone to hell before returning to life. Dr. Rawlings himself was an atheist until his experiences with those whom he brought back to life convinced him otherwise, and he became an avowed Christian.

His video is fascinating and well worth watching, but it is somewhat lengthy and you will need the better part of two hours to watch it all. But the written testimony is well worth hearing.

http://www.spiritlessons.com/Documen...xperiences.htm

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Is there any evidence that this is not simply made up to suck money from Christians?

Near Death experiences might not be good "testimony". After all, plenty of Muslims and Hindus have claimed NDEs that confirmed their religion, and that the Christian view of the afterlife was wrong. If we are going to try to claim NDEs as evidence, then we have to admit those as evidence too, and we end up "disproving" the Gospel.

In Christ-

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Is there any evidence that this is not simply made up to suck money from Christians?

Near Death experiences might not be good "testimony". After all, plenty of Muslims and Hindus have claimed NDEs that confirmed their religion, and that the Christian view of the afterlife was wrong. If we are going to try to claim NDEs as evidence, then we have to admit those as evidence too, and we end up "disproving" the Gospel.

In Christ-

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According to that logic, we should cross out miracles and incorrupt bodies as proofs of sainthood in the Catholic Church because Muslims also have incorrupt bodies of their martyrs and miraculous healings of people who prayed to Allah, therefore "disproving" the Gospel.
 
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Is there any evidence that this is not simply made up to suck money from Christians?

Near Death experiences might not be good "testimony". After all, plenty of Muslims and Hindus have claimed NDEs that confirmed their religion, and that the Christian view of the afterlife was wrong. If we are going to try to claim NDEs as evidence, then we have to admit those as evidence too, and we end up "disproving" the Gospel.

In Christ-

Papias


As the OP states: "resuscitated five atheists who had been clinicly dead." They were dead. Not near death.


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Kind of a strange notion...... Being tormented and burnt makes one believe that there is a God who is Love?


The OP is about five people who did not accept there is a God. As such, they are already condemned, according to Jn.3:18.


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Kind of a strange notion...... Being tormented and burnt makes one believe that there is a God who is Love?
I tend to agree with that.

They probably listened to too many ministers preaching "fire and brimstone", or looked at too many Jack Chick pamphlets........
REPENT!

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The rich man in this story in Luke 16 is a believer in God!, but not in Jesus [just like the Jews and Muslims of today]
AN OC Hebrew Israelite that calls upon Abraham and Moses instead of Jesus..........

Rich Man and Lazarus most misunderstood parable in NT?

Luke 16:
24 and having cried, he said, "Father Abraham, deal kindly with me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and may cool my tongue,
because I am being pained in this flame."
30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "


Reve 14:
10 And he is drinking out of the wine of the fury of the God, of the having been blended undiluted in the drink cup of the wrath of Him
and he shall be being tormented in fire and sulfur in sight of Holy Messengers and in sight of the Lamb
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11 And the smoke of the tormenting of Them is ascending into Ages to-Ages. And not they are having rest Day and Night

Kindgdom Bible Studies Savior of the World Series Part 1
TORMENTED IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB

Ah, the torment comes not from the Lamb. The torment lies within the bosoms of the tormented. The Scripture does not say that the Lamb torments them! If you think it does, you are mistaken. It states that THEY ARE TORMENTED IN THE PRESENCE of the Lamb. What a thought! TORMENTED IN THE PRESENCE. The Lamb is merely present. He does not torment.
The condition is within themselves. Because they are wrong and sinful in nature, wicked in their hearts, selfish in their minds, and impure in their desires, they are CONDEMNED IN THEIR CONSCIENCES by the very PRESENCE of the pure, holy, sinless, selfless, sacrificing Lamb of God. Hell is at its fiercest when it sees heaven, and not till then. When these realize the presence, or the character of the Lamb, they are tortured in their consciences, for in the Light of the Lamb they see themselves for the wretched little devils they are. The very PRESENCE of TRUTH torments the deceitful and the liar.

Notice please, in both instances, the subjects are tormented with fire and brimstone, and we have previously established what the fire and brimstone are. But Rev. 14:10 sheds further light, those are also tormented by and through another agency, which in reality sums up and constitutes the fire and brimstone, and that agency is THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB and the holy angels, or messengers. What an amazing divine paradox!
The Lamb - precious embodiment of the very character of innocence, patience, meekness, gentleness, holiness, sacrifice, and redemption - being made TORMENT to men for whom He died! The very thought seems incongruous.......................

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According to that logic, we should cross out miracles and incorrupt bodies as proofs of sainthood in the Catholic Church because Muslims also have incorrupt bodies of their martyrs and miraculous healings of people who prayed to Allah, therefore "disproving" the Gospel.

So what exactly are you saying? That all of these miracles and incorrupt bodies from various different religions are all "equally true"? If so, then why not be Muslim?

Here are some others:
Testimonies of Other Faiths: Muslim Spiritual Experiences
http://turntoislam.com/community/threads/personal-miracles.10367/
etc.

-Papias
 
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God is perfect Love / Grace / Mercy. He "wants" all to CHOOSE to accept His gracious provisions for salvation.

God is perfectly JUST. He renders perfect judgments as to all His created spirits. If man rejects Him, He will forsake and sentence that spirit.

BELIEVE => heavenly realms
DISS-BELIEVE => "lake of fire"

CHOOSE!!
 
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