Reading the Bible in a spiritual frame of mind

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 9, 2017

Dave G. said:
Me either.

see above post

mozo41 · Oct 9, 2017

there is no measure to a spiritual mind ...

Aimz · Oct 9, 2017

As a member of the body of Christ you believe that?

mozo41 said:
if we hold to a truth ( nail it down ) our journey into truth ends ...

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 9, 2017

About all we can do if they don't violate a specific rule is ignore them, then we don't see them.

W2L · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
Hello, I do not understand.

I suppose hes talking about the manna from heaven, which the Israelites gathered daily when they followed moses. Jesus says he is the bread of life. Paul mentions this gathering of manna as well, but he refers to monetary gain, or any wealth, which we gather. He teaches to give in his letter to the corinthians.

2 Corinthians 8:15 As it is written, “He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.”

mozo41 · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
As a member of the body of Christ you believe that?

yes why would i not

and with that measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

Aimz · Oct 9, 2017

I always ask clarifying questions when I am unsure of something or someone.

mozo41 said:
yes why would i not

and with that measure you measure, it will be measured to you.

PeaceJoyLove · Oct 9, 2017

mozo41 said:
hold to any truth over a day and it will become filled with worms ...

What happened to Israel is a picture of our soul journey/process taking place within...the land...wandering in the wilderness between two mountains with a promise of entering in...

mozo41 · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
I always ask clarifying questions when I am unsure of something or someone.

but test all things. Hold fast to the good.

Monna · Oct 9, 2017

mozo41 said:
if we hold to a truth ( nail it down ) our journey into truth ends ...

"a (so-called) truth" perhaps, but not the Truth, who is Jesus Christ. Of course, you could say he was nailed down, but he didn't stay that way. If you follow the Truth, you will find that the worms in your heart and mind, die or leave; and the journey never ends.

mozo41 said:
there is no measure to a spiritual mind ...

Oh but there is, and the answer again, is Jesus. And our journey is one that takes us towards it...

Ephesians 4:13
...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

PeaceJoyLove · Oct 9, 2017

mozo41 said:
if we hold to a truth ( nail it down ) our journey into truth ends ...

for His understanding is infinite

Halbhh · Oct 9, 2017

Ashley Mathura said:
Please help - is there anything I can do so as to read the Bible in a spiritual frame of mind and not as a skeptic?

Yes, for me to truly listen well, I must lay aside my thinking, no matter how well formed and even correct -- lay it aside. And listen.

This is how we can listen to Christ.

By being silent in our minds (doctrine included), and listening to Him through His words in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

I want to be sure that instead of me doing the talking, that He is the only one talking. It can help even at times to imagine you are there, in person, one of the people, as He spoke, and can imagine straining to hear every sound of His voice, every bit of His words, and not miss one.

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me."

mozo41 · Oct 9, 2017

Monna said:
"a (so-called) truth" perhaps, but not the Truth, who is Jesus Christ. Of course, you could say he was nailed down, but he didn't stay that way. If you follow the Truth, you will find that the worms in your heart and mind, die or leave; and the journey never ends.

Oh but there is, and the answer again, is Jesus. And our journey is one that takes us towards it...

Ephesians 4:13
...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

are there not truths in truth ... has truth a beginning or end to be measured by ... is not GOD and his Son the truth ... if we then measure the truth does is it not then become an image/idol of our own measured reasoning ...

Aimz · Oct 9, 2017

I just think if you are going to give out advice you should understand your audience, Jesus did. A seeker who wants to learn to be more spiritual will benefit more from practical earthly advice than profound spiritual advice from people who have been walking with God for so long they have forgotten what it was like at the start.

I have autism I tend to take things literally. I did not understand why holding to a truth for a day would make it turn into worms. God is truth, God is not a worm, however long you hold onto Him. I questioned why a professing believer would believe that because it made no sense to me. I ask questions when I do not understand. It is better to speak simply so all can enjoy rather than speak with sophistication just for a few. Thank you to all who have elaborated.

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 9, 2017

"AT all costs, get the truth, and don't let it go" i.e. yes, nail it down, fasten it securely in your heart and mind, meditate upon His Word all day and all night...

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
I just think if you are going to give out advice you should understand your audience, Jesus did. A seeker who wants to learn to be more spiritual will benefit more from practical earthly advice than profound spiritual advice from people who have been walking with God for so long they have forgotten what it was like at the start.

I have autism I tend to take things literally. I did not understand why holding to a truth for a day would make it turn into worms. God is truth, God is not a worm, however long you hold onto Him. I questioned why a professing believer would believe that because it made no sense to me. I ask questions when I do not understand. It is better to speak simply so all can enjoy rather than speak with sophistication just for a few. Thank you to all who have elaborated.

Realize too (as many can show) that more than half of the visitors, I don't know how many posters, are NOT believing Christians.

PeaceJoyLove · Oct 9, 2017

Monna said:
Ephesians 4:13
...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

Christ/The Door (back) to being reconciled to the father...a son.

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
I just think if you are going to give out advice you should understand your audience, Jesus did. A seeker who wants to learn to be more spiritual will benefit more from practical earthly advice than profound spiritual advice from people who have been walking with God for so long they have forgotten what it was like at the start.

I have autism I tend to take things literally. I did not understand why holding to a truth for a day would make it turn into worms. God is truth, God is not a worm, however long you hold onto Him. I questioned why a professing believer would believe that because it made no sense to me. I ask questions when I do not understand. It is better to speak simply so all can enjoy rather than speak with sophistication just for a few. Thank you to all who have elaborated.

Your right that metaphors are only useful if they are bible based and can be checked out with scripture using that particular metaphor in context to what is being discussed. If they are using a language not used in the bible they might as well be talking in piglatin. Anyones guess as to what is being said. Not at all useful.

mozo41 · Oct 9, 2017

Aimz said:
I just think if you are going to give out advice you should understand your audience, Jesus did. A seeker who wants to learn to be more spiritual will benefit more from practical earthly advice than profound spiritual advice from people who have been walking with God for so long they have forgotten what it was like at the start.

I have autism I tend to take things literally. I did not understand why holding to a truth for a day would make it turn into worms. God is truth, God is not a worm, however long you hold onto Him. I questioned why a professing believer would believe that because it made no sense to me. I ask questions when I do not understand. It is better to speak simply so all can enjoy rather than speak with sophistication just for a few. Thank you to all who have elaborated.

Jesus nailed to a cross is a picture of Truth crucified by those who held to their perception of truth which as we know was a lie ...

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 9, 2017

..... and the lie has nothing in those who abide in and hold tightly to the TRUTH.

Hold tightly to what is right forever! By grace in Jesus from the Father always, every day living in union in and with HIM.

(the TRUTH, not 'perception' of the TRUTH)

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