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US President Donald Trump's attempt to commingle sprint legend Usain Bolt in his tiff with NFL protesters has been met with scathing responses from Jamaicans on Twitter.

"Please leave the Boss out of your politricks," tweeted @JamaicaOlympics in response to Trump's post of a 2012 video showing Bolt cutting an interview so he could stand in silence for the US national anthem.


J'cans tell Trump to leave Bolt out of anthem feud



Many persons in Jamaica are under the impression that Donald Trump is racist when he is not. This is because the Democrats have been convincing black persons that Donald Trump and The Republicans are racist. What is the truth?

The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.


The Democratic party supported slavery from its inception in the 1830s until it split over the issue in 1860. In January 1865, 100 percent of House Republicans supported the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery. Among those who voted, 78 percent of House Democrats opposed abolition.


In February, Democrats Wrap Up Black Amnesia Month


The Democratic Party identified itself as the "white man's party" and demonized the Republican Party as being "Negro dominated," even though whites were in control. Determined to re-capture the South, Southern Democrats "redeemed" state after state -- sometimes peacefully, other times by fraud and violence. By 1877, when Reconstruction was officially over, the Democratic Party controlled every Southern state.

Jim Crow Stories


At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans.

Grant, Reconstruction, and the KKK
 

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The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.
What is the truth?
I would encourage people to look at the %s of the votes in the charts in this article. States that had been Union states voted for it, Confederate states did not. It had very little if anything to do with Dem. or Rep. The myth that more Republicans voted for civil rights needs to be put to rest.
Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

Nearly 100% of Union state Democrats supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act compared to 85% of Republicans. None of the southern Republicans voted for the bill, while a small percentage of southern Democrats did.
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Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster.
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That's why Strom Thurmond left the Democratic party soon after the Civil Right Act passed. He recognized that of the two parties, it was the Republican party that was more hospitable to his message. The Republican candidate for president in 1964, Barry Goldwater, was one of the few non-Confederate state senators to vote against the bill. He carried his home state of Arizona and swept the deep southern states – a first for a Republican ever.
 
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J'cans tell Trump to leave Bolt out of anthem feud

Many persons in Jamaica are under the impression that Donald Trump is racist when he is not. This is because the Democrats have been convincing black persons that Donald Trump and The Republicans are racist. What is the truth?

The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.

In February, Democrats Wrap Up Black Amnesia Month

Jim Crow Stories

Grant, Reconstruction, and the KKK
Supporters of parties, and the core of those parties, have switched several times throughout history.

It does little good to talk about "x" party.
 
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People are going to believe what they want too. Stereotypes have been used forever to convince people of stuff that they wanted them to believe. Using stereotypes I guess is pretty effective otherwise they wouldn't use them. It promotes bigotry, but it has been all the rage for sometime now.
 
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Many persons in Jamaica are under the impression that Donald Trump is racist when he is not. This is because the Democrats have been convincing black persons that Donald Trump and The Republicans are racist. What is the truth?
You have no idea how racist and condescending this post is. In effect, you are saying that black people are just stupid and can't process data and evidence for themselves and we need to be told what to think by Democrats...

The reason I believe racism to be a problem with the GOP and the Donald is based on some things that have been said and some things that have been done.

I have two eyes, two ears, and a brain and I'm perfectly capable to using them to form my own opinions and don't need "the democrats" to tell me how to think. There are legitimate reasons why many minorities can feel Trump is racist and sexist and it is very disingenuous to act as if there aren't.

The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.

Look, going back a hundred years or more and then trying to equate that to current politics is just ridiculous. Can we please limit political discussion of current political parties to what the parties have done in the last few decades???
 
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You have no idea how racist and condescending this post is. In effect, you are saying that black people are just stupid and can't process data and evidence for themselves and we need to be told what to think by Democrats...

The reason I believe racism to be a problem with the GOP and the Donald is based on some things that have been said and some things that have been done.

I have two eyes, two ears, and a brain and I'm perfectly capable to using them to form my own opinions and don't need "the democrats" to tell me how to think. There are legitimate reasons why many minorities can feel Trump is racist and sexist and it is very disingenuous to act as if there aren't.



Look, going back a hundred years or more and then trying to equate that to current politics is just ridiculous. Can we please limit political discussion of current political parties to what the parties have done in the last few decades???


Digiharris did you know about this before I posted it?

Digiharris, you and other liberals always try to play the black card, I am black, this does not work on me.

Digiharris when faced with the truth about the Democrats you close your eyes and ears as if you know nothing. This is because many black persons have an emotional investment in the Democrat Party who makes it appear that they care about black people.

The Democrats has tried to make it appear that the Republicans are racist on purpose. In Jamaica and in the African American community when people think of the South, Jim Crow, the KKK they associate it with the Republicans not the Democrats. Why? Why is the truth not being told? Why hide the racism of the Democrats. Politicians are very manipulative, and they will say anything to get more votes.

How can you ignore the reality of the situation as a black person? Donald Trump is against illegal immigration. How is this racist? Do Jamaicans support illegal immigrations? The border between Mexico and the U.S is a major crime problem how is building a wall racist. Jamaicans are very nationalistic how is this racist?




 
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J'cans tell Trump to leave Bolt out of anthem feud



Many persons in Jamaica are under the impression that Donald Trump is racist when he is not. This is because the Democrats have been convincing black persons that Donald Trump and The Republicans are racist. What is the truth?

The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.





In February, Democrats Wrap Up Black Amnesia Month




Jim Crow Stories




Grant, Reconstruction, and the KKK

Political parties change.
You forgot to follow up to the 1960's...to the Civil Rights movement...

I live in the South.
In a Republican county.
The Civil Rights movement spurred some people around here to resurrect the Confederate Flag...

Now...why would they do that...?
What does that tell you?
It's a traitorous flag that represents oppression.
Why fly it...?

Tell me.
 
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Digiharris did you know about this before I posted it?

Digiharris, you and other liberals always try to play the black card, I am black, this does not work on me.

Digiharris when faced with the truth about the Democrats you close your eyes and ears as if you know nothing. This is because many black persons have an emotional investment in the Democrat Party who makes it appear that they care about black people.

The Democrats has tried to make it appear that the Republicans are racist on purpose. In Jamaica and in the African American community when people think of the South, Jim Crow, the KKK they associate it with the Republicans not the Democrats. Why? Why is the truth not being told? Why hide the racism of the Democrats. Politicians are very manipulative, and they will say anything to get more votes.

How can you ignore the reality of the situation as a black person? Donald Trump is against illegal immigration. How is this racist? Do Jamaicans support illegal immigrations? The border between Mexico and the U.S is a major crime problem how is building a wall racist. Jamaicans are very nationalistic how is this racist?





I'm an Independent voter, I vote Dems about 65% of the time and I vote GOP about 35% of the time. If you've read my post, then you know I'm critical of both parties. Truth be told, I hate them both and instead of "party" I focus on "candidate".

Democrats have used Blacks and the middle class and have more or less just taken us for granted for decades. However, the GOP is the party of the rich. The reason I say this is because the GOP as a party has a platform that basically says:
  • The US would be a better place if you let Corporations run everything
  • Trickle Down Economics is the best economics
  • There is no racism therefore get rid of policies and legislation that attempts to correct for institutional racism and/or laws against racism (why do you need a law for things that don't exist)
  • Police and the system need to focus more on minorities because they are problematic
  • Transgender and gay people don't deserve equality because they choose their lifestyles
  • Old white guys know best (to include women's health issues) and are the only people who can be trusted to "do the right thing" and to think for themselves.
I am 100% for better border security. However, the wall is a pipe dream. I used to live in the biggest border town in the US and I know how easy it would be to dig a tunnel underneath the wall.

The wall is just a shiny little object Trump can dangle in front of his base in effect hypnotizing them and using their emotions to gain control. It is not a real solution> It just isn't.

As for racism and the party of racists. That Nazi KKK march and the President's "Initial" immediate response was very very telling. Think about this, NFL players kneeling during the national anthem and the president IMMEDIATELY gets on TV and curses them out and calls for them to be fired. Nazis and KKK clansmen march and the president 'initially" waffled about "Well, ummm they had a permit and were peacefully protesting".

NFL players kneel during the national anthem.
Nazi KKK march with Confederate and Nazi flags doing the Nazi salute and the president "initially" waffles.
How many of the Nazi KKK people at that march vote democrat? (Note: I'm not saying all Republicans are Nazis and KKK and racist, not my intent)

now, as far as going back to ancient political history of the 1800s and 1900s and trying to tie that to the actual political philosophy of today... that is just absurd. That is the foundation of a weak argument. Let me put it another way...

There are so many modern problems with our political parties that there is simply no need to go back 100 to 150 years to find dirt. What was considered "democrat" back in 1909 is not the same thing as what is considered "democrat" today. Same with Republicans.

Not once have I ever used the argument "Well, republicans supported slavery back in 1845 therefore I hate the republican party". Yes, I know that is not true, but I'm just saying, what does that argument have to do with the Republican party today? It is a red herring argument that muddies the waters. I just don't care what the Democratic or Republican party used to believe or do back in 1880 or 1920 simply because both parties have evolved and changed so much that holding them to their platforms from a 100 years ago is pointless.
 
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Political parties change.
You forgot to follow up to the 1960's...to the Civil Rights movement...

I live in the South.
In a Republican county.
The Civil Rights movement spurred some people around here to resurrect the Confederate Flag...

Now...why would they do that...?
What does that tell you?
It's a traitorous flag that represents oppression.
Why fly it...?

Tell me.


The Democrats state clearly that the persons who are racist are white conservative Republicans. That all white conservative Christian Republicans are racist.

In the Democrats eye on the other hand, if you are a white liberal Democrat you are anti-racist, anti-sexist, tolerant loving people.

So in the Democrats eyes it is impossible to be a white conservative Christian (or to be a) Christian and be loving.

You are saying the exact same thing that Democrats have been saying that all Republicans are racist and that the party itself is racist and founded on racism. That somehow Republicans invented racism in America. That all Republicans hate non white people.

The Democrats Created and Own the Confederate Flag

U.S. duped by 'monumental' lie about Charlottesville


If it was up to Democrats no one would know of the party supporting racism.
 
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The Democrats state clearly that the persons who are racist are white conservative Republicans. That all white conservative Christian Republicans are racist.

In the Democrats eye on the other hand, if you are a white liberal Democrat you are anti-racist, anti-sexist, tolerant loving people.

So in the Democrats eyes it is impossible to be a white conservative Christian (or to be a) Christian and be loving.

You are saying the exact same thing that Democrats have been saying that all Republicans are racist and that the party itself is racist and founded on racism. That somehow Republicans invented racism in America. That all Republicans hate non white people.

The Democrats Created and Own the Confederate Flag


If it was up to Democrats no one would know of the party supporting racism.



Pooh!
I don't think all Republicans are racists.
I think they're all selfish.
That's what I think.

But I don't think all Republicans are racist.
 
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J'cans tell Trump to leave Bolt out of anthem feud



Many persons in Jamaica are under the impression that Donald Trump is racist when he is not. This is because the Democrats have been convincing black persons that Donald Trump and The Republicans are racist. What is the truth?

The truth is the Democratic Party supported slavery not the Republicans. The Republicans opposed slavery.





In February, Democrats Wrap Up Black Amnesia Month




Jim Crow Stories




Grant, Reconstruction, and the KKK
One cannot say trump is not racist and be fluent in the english language and correct.
 
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Ah, I love the condescending, "Democrats are racists rants!" Democrats were the Confederacy! Democrats were the KKK! Well, somebody should have sent the memo to those cats in Charlottesville because they were marching to "Unite the Right." The other thing to do is talk about racism in the Union states, so when you want to tarnish the North/Union/etc. call Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant racist, but when you refer to their political party, refer to them as Republicans, the saviors of African Americans. At the end of the day, this argument assumes black people are stupid whose support is based solely on what happened during the Civil War. Now that you've told me the Union was Republican, I should join the Republican Party! I'll just ignore those white supremacists that Trump hired to be part of his cabinet.
 
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Ah, I love the condescending, "Democrats are racists rants!" Democrats were the Confederacy! Democrats were the KKK! Well, somebody should have sent the memo to those cats in Charlottesville because they were marching to "Unite the Right." The other thing to do is talk about racism in the Union states, so when you want to tarnish the North/Union/etc. call Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant racist, but when you refer to their political party, refer to them as Republicans, the saviors of African Americans. At the end of the day, this argument assumes black people are stupid whose support is based solely on what happened during the Civil War. Now that you've told me the Union was Republican, I should join the Republican Party! I'll just ignore those white supremacists that Trump hired to be part of his cabinet.

This is exactly what the Democrats do, they hide their roots. Have your forgotten that Nazi refers to National Socialism? Persons chanting "Unite The Right" shows there either absolute ignorance of their history, or purposely trying to hide their ties with the left by making it appear that they are right wing.

The Klu Klux Klan for example call themselves Christian but they are not. Jesus Christ, was himself a Jew and they hate Jews.

In Numbers 12 Miriam spoke against Moses because his wife was Ethiopian, she was racist, and God punished Miriam for what she said. God did not have a problem with the the marriage between Moses and Zipporah. The Klu Klux Klan hate black people.

The bible clearly states you should love your neighbor as you do yourself but the Klu Klux Klan is full of hate.

They burn crosses, when crosses in the Christian community are respected.

The titles that the Klu Klux Klan uses shows their occult heritage in several ways. They use the term Wizard to signify someone in a leadership position, a wizard is a male witch.

They call themselves grand dukes, dress themselves in sheets with hoods, similar to occult groups and secret societies. The Klux Klan is not Christian and will never be.

Albert Pike and the Ku Klux Klan
 
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Political parties change.
You forgot to follow up to the 1960's...to the Civil Rights movement...

I live in the South.
In a Republican county.
The Civil Rights movement spurred some people around here to resurrect the Confederate Flag...

Now...why would they do that...?
What does that tell you?
It's a traitorous flag that represents oppression.
Why fly it...?

Tell me.

Good luck trying to employ historical fact, reason, and logic on that one...

Modern Day GOP have clung to their "Well, the Democrats were actually the party of racism cuz 1930's" argument and they won't seem to let it go no matter how much people remind them that a big change (called the Southern Strategy) took place after that.

Meanwhile, they overlook the fact that almost every major policy that has negatively impacted the black community (with a few exceptions) since 1970 have come from the GOP and not Democrats.

In short: "The Democrats are actually the party of racism, see look at what they did in 1930" is the epitome of dishonesty and 'selective memory'.
 
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Good luck trying to employ historical fact, reason, and logic on that one...

Modern Day GOP have clung to their "Well, the Democrats were actually the party of racism cuz 1930's" argument and they won't seem to let it go no matter how much people remind them that a big change (called the Southern Strategy) took place after that.

Meanwhile, they overlook the fact that almost every major policy that has negatively impacted the black community (with a few exceptions) since 1970 have come from the GOP and not Democrats.

In short: "The Democrats are actually the party of racism, see look at what they did in 1930" is the epitome of dishonesty and 'selective memory'.


No, honey.
It's just plain ignorance.

If people would only take advantage of their free American education!

Then we wouldn't have so many ignorant folk.
 
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You have no idea how racist and condescending this post is. In effect, you are saying that black people are just stupid and can't process data and evidence for themselves and we need to be told what to think by Democrats...

The reason I believe racism to be a problem with the GOP and the Donald is based on some things that have been said and some things that have been done.

I have two eyes, two ears, and a brain and I'm perfectly capable to using them to form my own opinions and don't need "the democrats" to tell me how to think. There are legitimate reasons why many minorities can feel Trump is racist and sexist and it is very disingenuous to act as if there aren't.



Look, going back a hundred years or more and then trying to equate that to current politics is just ridiculous. Can we please limit political discussion of current political parties to what the parties have done in the last few decades???

I also need to make the following clear. I am not just talking randomly, I am talking from my own experience. My adoptive parents are Jamaicans, and several of my adopted family are African Americans. I did not even know until about 3 years ago that I was adopted and I didn't know that I was not born in Jamaica, I thought I was Jamaican.

Just like any other family we talk about politics and other issues. Some of my family members in Jamaica and in America are convinced that Trump is racist because of what the media is portraying.

Recently I was talking to a Jamaican family member and she didn't know anything about the Democrat Party and their history involving racism, and she was not the only one in my family who had no idea about this.

Based on comments that journalists were making about Trump in the media in Jamaica it was clearly that they see Donald Trump and Republicans are racist, that they did not know anything about the Democratic history of racism or if they did they pretended not to know.

Many Jamaicans whether in Jamaica or America do not know the Democrats have ties to slavery and black oppression.
 
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Good luck trying to employ historical fact, reason, and logic on that one...

Modern Day GOP have clung to their "Well, the Democrats were actually the party of racism cuz 1930's" argument and they won't seem to let it go no matter how much people remind them that a big change (called the Southern Strategy) took place after that.

Meanwhile, they overlook the fact that almost every major policy that has negatively impacted the black community (with a few exceptions) since 1970 have come from the GOP and not Democrats.

In short: "The Democrats are actually the party of racism, see look at what they did in 1930" is the epitome of dishonesty and 'selective memory'.


Really? First of all Charles Darwin who is embraced by leftists was racist. The whole notion that man's ancestors were monkeys is the very reason why white supremacists call black persons monkey. Because they believe that black people did not evolve like other races. That black people were animals not human.


Scientists said that black persons were less intelligent and tried to use biology to support their racist beliefs such as the size of skulls in different ethnic groups.


Charles Darwin cousin Francis Galton invented Eugenics based on Charles Darwin theories.


Scientific Racism


Racist dictators like Hitler supported Charles Darwins views and Hitler as you know killed millions of Jews, black persons additionally were persecuted and killed by the Nazi's, the National Socialist German Workers' Party.


There is much more that could be said further such as human experimentation being done because of racism. For example the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment in the U.S.


Additionally the black community is experiencing a serious crisis due to the liberal left view where marriage and strong family ties becomes replaced by free love and free sex, sex without consequence, and sex without responsibility.


Black families were close knit and strong but this eventually broke down.
 
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Really? First of all Charles Darwin who is embraced by leftists was racist. The whole notion that man's ancestors were monkeys is the very reason why white supremacists call black persons monkey. Because they believe that black people did not evolve like other races. That black people were animals not human.

Again, reciting things that happened over 50 years ago doesn't impact much as far as present day attitudes and policies.

I would recommend that you do some research on "The Southern Strategy"
 
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