If I could speak to Kim Jung Un.

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I would say to him,

Kim, may I call you Kim, that is your name isn't it?

Kim, the U.S. has no plans to destroy your country or your regime, although we do wish you would somehow disappear. You're a funny looking dude but scary nonetheless. You do have a great smile, and you're wife isn't bad looking either. You should spend more time with her and less time with the generals. The generals are pulling your strings aren't they, sorta like a puppetmaster?

Kim, President Trump calls you "Rocketman", which is almost as funny as him calling Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas". It fits you well and sort of makes you into a cartoon character hero shooting rockets all over the place. Not a good image for the leader of a nation.

But that and all your threats and counter threats to the U.S. and other posturing aside we understand what your true goal, and your only goal is, that of reunifying Korea under communist rule, much like happened in Viet Nam. But unlike Viet Nam the western allies of South Korea aren't going anywhere. And the only way you will accomplish your goal is a successful invasion of South Korea, which if attempted would lead to the immediate destruction of your country, the means of which would be decided by your choice of weapons.

So Kim, the way I see it is this. Play with your rockets if you must but we know you have no intention of using them anywhere as it would bring the total destruction of your country as noted above.

You have no hope of conquering and placing the south under communist rule. Therefore you have only one option going forward, that is to turn your efforts toward improving the lives of your own citizens, and becoming a peaceful and responsible member of the global community of nations.

To this end we and others stand ready to lend a helping hand. Until that time we will disengage from your country and regime in every way possible while still monitoring your behavior and attitude. You may signal us if you wish to move toward the aforementioned changes and we will respond generously.

North Korea has only three choices. Continue to set off rockets in a silly and futile display of military might, successfully invade the south, or become a nation that cares for it's own people. Note that we don't care if you continue to isolate yourself from the rest of the world just as long as you aren't a threat to any other part of the world.
 

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I may be wrong with the feelings i have about Kim Jung Un.. But i have a sneaking suspicion that this young ruler actually hates his own country.. Hates the fact that he was forced to rule it because of his blood line.. Hates his life on earth and wants to bring it all to an end.. I suspect he wants to commit suicide by the USA.. Like some people who get an empty gun and go out confront police to commit suicide by police.. But Kim wants to do it on a mega scale..

He has championed the hardest of the hard line power structures in the North Korean elites and has surpassed them in rhetoric.. It is as if he is doing his best to bring about a war he knows he cannot win.. A war that will bring His life and the whole North Korean gulag state to utter destruction..
 
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Kim, may I call you Kim, that is your name isn't it?
That is his family name.

"Smith, may I call you Smith, that is your name isn't it?"
 
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I would say to him,

Kim, may I call you Kim, that is your name isn't it?

Kim, the U.S. has no plans to destroy your country or your regime, although we do wish you would somehow disappear. You're a funny looking dude but scary nonetheless. You do have a great smile, and you're wife isn't bad looking either. You should spend more time with her and less time with the generals. The generals are pulling your strings aren't they, sorta like a puppetmaster?

Kim, President Trump calls you "Rocketman", which is almost as funny as him calling Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas". It fits you well and sort of makes you into a cartoon character hero shooting rockets all over the place. Not a good image for the leader of a nation.

But that and all your threats and counter threats to the U.S. and other posturing aside we understand what your true goal, and your only goal is, that of reunifying Korea under communist rule, much like happened in Viet Nam. But unlike Viet Nam the western allies of South Korea aren't going anywhere. And the only way you will accomplish your goal is a successful invasion of South Korea, which if attempted would lead to the immediate destruction of your country, the means of which would be decided by your choice of weapons.

So Kim, the way I see it is this. Play with your rockets if you must but we know you have no intention of using them anywhere as it would bring the total destruction of your country as noted above.

You have no hope of conquering and placing the south under communist rule. Therefore you have only one option going forward, that is to turn your efforts toward improving the lives of your own citizens, and becoming a peaceful and responsible member of the global community of nations.

To this end we and others stand ready to lend a helping hand. Until that time we will disengage from your country and regime in every way possible while still monitoring your behavior and attitude. You may signal us if you wish to move toward the aforementioned changes and we will respond generously.

North Korea has only three choices. Continue to set off rockets in a silly and futile display of military might, successfully invade the south, or become a nation that cares for it's own people. Note that we don't care if you continue to isolate yourself from the rest of the world just as long as you aren't a threat to any other part of the world.

Have you ever had an Eastern Friends?

The concept of honor and saving face has an importance that Westerners just can't comprehend.

I like what you have to say, but you need to remove the condescension and treat him with respect and dignity.

We also have to understand the mentality of a nation under siege by a superior power while simultaneously beholden to Russia and China for their sovereignty. While all of that is going on, China is getting closer and closer to the US which would have to put NK on edge. Then you have Russia becoming more and more distant as an ally.

The fear I have is that our past cold war paradigms are not sustainable in a technological advanced future. Too many people in this country and in this forum can not adequately envision the consequences of a future in which technology is so advanced and so prevalent that a high school student can design a nuclear bomb using the internet and his home computer and his only limitation is actually just getting a hold of the materials.

Right now we are the big bad US of A thumping our chest around the world, speaking to all these countries and various terrorist groups with a condescending smirk on our face. How long until someone plants a suitcase nuke on the corner of Pennsylvania Ave and wipe that smirk off our faces.

9/11 was just 16 years ago and we've already forgotten how hard a determined foe could hurt us.

So yes, I like some of what you said, but remember, technology is the great equalizer and with the current EXPONENTIAL technological growth curve, it would behoove us to rethink our foreign policy. Specifically, I don't see a Cold War paradigm working anymore.
 
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Have you ever had an Eastern Friends?

The concept of honor and saving face has an importance that Westerners just can't comprehend.

I like what you have to say, but you need to remove the condescension and treat him with respect and dignity.

We also have to understand the mentality of a nation under siege by a superior power while simultaneously beholden to Russia and China for their sovereignty. While all of that is going on, China is getting closer and closer to the US which would have to put NK on edge. Then you have Russia becoming more and more distant as an ally.

The fear I have is that our past cold war paradigms are not sustainable in a technological advanced future. Too many people in this country and in this forum can not adequately envision the consequences of a future in which technology is so advanced and so prevalent that a high school student can design a nuclear bomb using the internet and his home computer and his only limitation is actually just getting a hold of the materials.

Right now we are the big bad US of A thumping our chest around the world, speaking to all these countries and various terrorist groups with a condescending smirk on our face. How long until someone plants a suitcase nuke on the corner of Pennsylvania Ave and wipe that smirk off our faces.

9/11 was just 16 years ago and we've already forgotten how hard a determined foe could hurt us.

So yes, I like some of what you said, but remember, technology is the great equalizer and with the current EXPONENTIAL technological growth curve, it would behoove us to rethink our foreign policy. Specifically, I don't see a Cold War paradigm working anymore.



Good answer!
Except I couldn't treat the man with dignity or respect...
I'd give him my cool manners, and that's all.
I wouldn't "chat."

Besides, I don't think he cares what we Americans think.
China...that's his master.
 
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Have you ever had an Eastern Friends?

The concept of honor and saving face has an importance that Westerners just can't comprehend.

I like what you have to say, but you need to remove the condescension and treat him with respect and dignity.

We also have to understand the mentality of a nation under siege by a superior power while simultaneously beholden to Russia and China for their sovereignty. While all of that is going on, China is getting closer and closer to the US which would have to put NK on edge. Then you have Russia becoming more and more distant as an ally.

The fear I have is that our past cold war paradigms are not sustainable in a technological advanced future. Too many people in this country and in this forum can not adequately envision the consequences of a future in which technology is so advanced and so prevalent that a high school student can design a nuclear bomb using the internet and his home computer and his only limitation is actually just getting a hold of the materials.

Right now we are the big bad US of A thumping our chest around the world, speaking to all these countries and various terrorist groups with a condescending smirk on our face. How long until someone plants a suitcase nuke on the corner of Pennsylvania Ave and wipe that smirk off our faces.

9/11 was just 16 years ago and we've already forgotten how hard a determined foe could hurt us.

So yes, I like some of what you said, but remember, technology is the great equalizer and with the current EXPONENTIAL technological growth curve, it would behoove us to rethink our foreign policy. Specifically, I don't see a Cold War paradigm working anymore.

That's pretty much why I would be publically ignoring NK. Also, that door, that we must always be cognizant of eastern ways, swings both ways.

Also, while our fearless leaders continue to rattle sabers ordinary Americans fear a war with NK in that we fear what we must do to them in the event of a war. A friend of mine once backed down from a fight that I knew he could easily win. He did it because he knew what he would do to the poor fellow if he hit him. My brother's martial arts club had a rule; when they went out socially they would avoid rowdy bars, for the protection of the rowdies in those bars.
 
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Good answer!
Except I couldn't treat the man with dignity or respect...
I'd give him my cool manners, and that's all.
I wouldn't "chat."

Besides, I don't think he cares what we Americans think.
China...that's his master.
If we were to communicate with Mr. Kim we would need to do it in the language and style he understands. Trump's blustering does not speak to him, and it would not speak to many people imo. I really think it's impossible to get through to him anyway.
 
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Kim, the U.S. has no plans to destroy your country or your regime, although we do wish you would somehow disappear. You're a funny looking dude but scary nonetheless. You do have a great smile, and you're wife isn't bad looking either. You should spend more time with her and less time with the generals. The generals are pulling your strings aren't they, sorta like a puppetmaster?

Are you talking to Kim or Trump here?
 
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If we were to communicate with Mr. Kim we would need to do it in the language and style he understands. Trump's blustering does not speak to him, and it would not speak to many people imo. I really think it's impossible to get through to him anyway.

Yeah.
I think you're right.
I think he's unstable.
 
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